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The Sandy Hook official story is BS, and here's the smoking gun

Here's a screenshot of the "RIP Victoria Soto" facebook page (www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Victoria-Soto/448389438554831), cached by google:

http://i.imm.io/PXUo.png

The problem is, that page was created on december 10th, FOUR DAYS BEFORE THE SHOOTING OCCURRED.

So maybe they changed the page name AFTER the shooting, you ask? The problem is, even if you change the page name, the URL stays the same.

So maybe they changed the URL, you ask? The problem is, the only way to change the URL is to make it what facebook calls a "vanity URL", which is in the following format: www.facebook.com/RIP-Victoria-Soto. Notice the word "pages", as well as the random numbers at the end are gone.

So the URL (www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Victoria-Soto/448389438554831) shows that "RIP Victoria Soto" was the original page name created on december 10th.

Here's video in case some of you might not be satisfied with a screenshot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX1sqJTLwnY

... As expected they took down the facebook page already, but luckily we still have screenshots and video floating around.



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No.7's picture

Oh my God I'm sick of hearing this one

YOU CAN CHANGE THE NAME OF FACEBOOK PAGES WHENEVER YOU WANT!!!!!! I don't care what you say I know you can, I've done it. You can also change the date on you're computer. This is hardly a "smoking gun".

Anyone who is supposedly smart enough to pull off a giant lie involving the death of children isn't going to F it up by playing on FB. If you believe they can pull off a conspiracy this big then how can you possibly believe they could be that stupid??? Seriously?

The real smoking gun in this to me is the fact that the car isn't registered to Nancy Lanza. That's proven, that hasn't been explained, that's a smoking gun. Figure that one out.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

What Children?

I never saw any children. Did you? Link the video or page w/ the photos.

All I saw was a CNN camera trained on a building and smiling parents giving tearless interviews mere days after their "kids" were executed.

"First rule of Government Spending: Why build one when you can have 2 at twice the price?"
-S.R. Hadden

sharkhearted's picture

Read his post where he apologizes....

At any rate...you, as an honest guy, are doing a good job of deconstructing the Newtown shooting spree.

Just don't shoot your own in the process. We all want the truth.

And,to be quite honest, with the sham of 9/11 lurking in the shadows, from now on....I would say that EVERY SINGLE ANOMALOUS EVENT should be viewed as a false flag event...until DISPROVEN otherwise.

Including Sandy Hook. And including the "James Holmes" massacre.

What better way to neutralize a population than to weaken them by pesticides, fluoride, GMOs, Perpetual War (where all the alpha males are continually killed off), and SSRI's....

If you can't kill them in war and attrition from bad nutrients...then you kill them with murder/suicide drugs.

As I said before...there is no fire in hell hot enough for Merck and Monsanto...not even the fire induced by thermite.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Exactly!

"Just don't shoot your own in the process. We all want the truth."

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

This is stupid

Focusing on fringe ideas and conspiracy theories will never help you advance your political goals and all it does is make us look crazy. I wouldn't be surprised if you were an operative for a government agency or political party whose sole purpose is to come on here and try to discredit us by making everyone looks nuts with idiotic posts like this.

Focus on all of the bad things that you can actually prove and that people know about like the debt, NDAA, patriot act, FISA, etc. You do yourself no favors by posting something like this.

Seems like I was wrong, and I

Seems like I was wrong, and I apologize. I was going off of what facebook itself says:

Changing your Page's name does not affect its username or Page address

http://www.facebook.com/help/271607792873806/

... However, this seems to be untrue, as I (and others here) have changed the page name and saw the page address change. So for now, consider this debunked. Sorry to waste your time :(

sharkhearted's picture

Indeed...

Bravo for your intellectual honesty.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

bravo dude!

Intellectual honesty goes a long way!

How would this be the smoking gun even if it were true?

Maybe you weren't trying to deceive people and you actually think the name always stays the same or maybe you were just stirring the pot a little bit, it really doesn't even matter. There are several legitimate questions that have been raised about this case and several easily dismissed bits of garbage that people who want real answers, or at least claim to, seem to cling to more than facts.
It's like the press conference of the coroner; all the citizen journalists cut out the question about a tent because the guy said "magnificent" in a funny way that could be spun to support their own narrative. If truth is what you seek, than truth is what you must deliver.
It's ok to be wrong and move on, it's not ok to cling to being wrong to save face.

Please Stop

Please stop posting this idiotic conspiracy bullshit.
You're making this website and its frequenters look as batshit as you are.
We don't need to believe everything is a mass conspiracy to value and protect gun rights or any other aspect of liberty.

And by the way

This is called confirmation bias.
You are fishing for "evidence" that confirms what you want to be true rather than actually looking for the truth.

Whatever. You'd have to be

Whatever. You'd have to be unbelievably gullible to believe that someone would have foreknowledge of a mass slaying and be so stupid as to go and create such a page until after it actually happened.

But the dailypaul DOES have a lot of EXTREMELY gullible participants.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

This

doesn't prove anything. Check this yourself:

1. Go to your facebook account.
2. On the home screen, on the left side, click "more" next to the word "pages."
3. Click "create a page."
4. Click on one of the boxes (I selected "cause").
5. Type a name for your page that you will change to something else (example: Support Animals Rights).
6. Check the box "I agree to Facebook Pages Terms" then click "Get Started."
7. Click "skip" approximately 4 times as different pop-ups appear.
8. Notice the url of the page reads "facebook.com/pages/Support-Animals-Rights/________"
9. At the top of the screen, click "edit page" and then "update info."
10. Where it says "Name," delete "Support Animals Rights" and replace with "Support Gun Owner's Rights."
11. Click on "View Page" on the top right.
12. Notice the url of the page has changed to "facebook.com/pages/Support-Gun-Owners-Rights/_________"

Do it yourself, don't listen to any of us. Don't even take my word for it. Go do this now.

"No physical quantity explains it's own existence, and no amount of time can consume an infinite series of events to bring you to the present, which means all of these somewhere have to be explained by one self-existent cause which is not physical."

Seems like you might be

Seems like you might be right, I just tried myself and the URL changed. Hmmmm, maybe it's not a smoking gun? I was going off of facebook's policy which states:

"Changing your Page's name does not affect its username or Page address"

http://www.facebook.com/help/127563087384058/

On Facebook there is a "name"

On Facebook there is a "name" and there is a "username". If you change "name" the url will not change. But if you change "user name" (which is itself the URL), AND the "name", then the URL WILL ALSO CHANGE.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

i agree with this

I have a couple of pages despite hating fb and I got to change the url.

Is there a limit to how many pages a person can have though? I can't understand why someone wouldn't just create a new page otherwise.

Yes, except the new URL would

Yes, except the new URL would be in the format of facebook.com/new-title.

You can't change the URL from:

facebook.com/pages/original-title/some-numbers

to:

facebook.com/pages/new-title/some-numbers

... Which means that "RIP Victoria Soto" was the original page title created on december 10th.

See my responses to TxRedneck for a more detailed explanation

incorrect

a couple of us have tested this and the numbers will stay the same but you can actually change the title no problem. In fact I've discovered that

facebook.com/pages/original-title/123456789

facebook.com/pages/new-title/123456789

and

facebook.com/pages/typeanythingyouwanthere/123456789

will all go to the same place

You're half right

Facebook does allow you create a username once the page has had 25 likes. This will change your page name from www.facebook.com/pages/whatever/numbers to www.facebook.com/whatever

However the page was www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Victoria-Soto/448389438554831 therefore this title was selected, RIP-Victoria-Soto, when creating the page on December 10th.

The user name is created the

The user name is created the instant the page is created. The user name IS the url, without the user name nobody could EVER like anything on your page because without a user name your page would have no URL, therefore there WOULDN"T EVEN BE A PAGE.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

The "username" I'm referring

The "username" I'm referring to is the last part of what facebook calls a "vanity URL", e.g. - www.facebook.com/username. To create this "username" your page must first have 25 likes.

Furthermore, you can't change the URL from say:

www.facebook.com/pages/some-page-name/448389438554831

to

www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Victoria-Soto/448389438554831

That's impossible. You'd have to create a username to use for a "vanity URL", meaning the new URL would look like this:

www.facebook.com/RIP-Victoria-Soto

... Make sense?

This has been wiped from google as well

Google had this page cached now it is gone completely.

My facebook url is

My facebook url is www.facebook/my.realname1
It has no /pages/ and never has, I've never changed it. I have another one that I have changed.

The google screen save you posted shows the page had 742 likes...created on the 10th.
The other one you posted was created on the 15th, the one that is live now.
No doubt, after reading the comments on the original page, the user deleted that page and created one that would SERVE AS A MEMORIAL instead of a comment page for conspiracy creationist.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

You have a personal account,

You have a personal account, not a page. He's right, you can't change it in the way you are suggesting.

(update: I tried to do it and you CAN change the name from /pages/etc/numbers to /pages/different/numbers) See my most recent comment on this post

"No physical quantity explains it's own existence, and no amount of time can consume an infinite series of events to bring you to the present, which means all of these somewhere have to be explained by one self-existent cause which is not physical."

The second link

The second link (www.facebook.com/RIP-Victoria-Soto) was an example of how the URL should look in the screenshot if they changed it.

But the screenshot does NOT look like that. It shows the /pages/ style URL, meaning "RIP Victoria Soto" was the page name entered on december 10th.

Get it?

that's your personal account

but you can also create a page using that account for your business/charity/interests or whatever using your account.

If/when you do it's created facebook.com/pages/name-of-page/[numbers]

And what makes you think that

And what makes you think that an account created on the 10th was not a personal account, and then the name changed on the 15th?

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

I don't think that.

The "Joined Facebook
10 December" isn't the date the creator of the page joined, it's the date the page was created.

What I think happened is:

jane doe creates a test page using her jane doe account before sandy hook. jane has no fore knowledge and the page is just a test and not about anything.

she gets the url facebook.com/pages/test-page/6587668768767

then sandy hook happens and for some unknown reason instead of creating a new page decides to just rename her test page and go with that. Unfortunately the test page although being renamed still shows Joined 10th December" and people freak out.

BUT

you can't change the name from /pages/etc/numbers to /pages/different.etc/numbers

(update: I just tried it and you CAN change the name). Read my most recent reply to this post.

"No physical quantity explains it's own existence, and no amount of time can consume an infinite series of events to bring you to the present, which means all of these somewhere have to be explained by one self-existent cause which is not physical."