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We need a critical mass to refuse to file

their federal income taxes. If a movement is begun whereby Americans enmasse max out their exemptions and refuse to file and pay federal income taxes (above and beyond what they steal from our paychecks), this would have an impact. They cannot put us all in jail.

The Feds steal our money, they waste on our money,they spend our money on things we do not even know about and other things most don't support or believe in i.e. their continual war, drone strikes and reproductive atrocities.

They can't throw us all in jail. This would be a peaceful way to protest. Just refuse to file.

What say you???



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If you inspire the Right-To-Life crowd it could happen.

Show them that their tax dollars are being used to directly fund abortion mills and they will refuse to file also.

Most simply don't know this.

They do not want to be party to murdering innocents.

Show them that they are party to mass homicide and you will quickly have your critical mass.

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Fantastic Idea

It really is a good and large crowd that would impact the whole tamale too.

Can't show them Iraqi children though?

Or Pakistan? Or Afghanistan?
Not your fault, I know.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Some of us are reasoning people, a life is a life

show them both and many will get the connection.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

I am sure it was coincidence

but I stated I was not going to file in protest one time, part of an attempted such movement a few years ago. Within months I got a bill. Seems they went back over my old returns and realized I owed them more money. No one was there to stop them from putting ME in jail, so I just pay them now, and accept that I am captive.
They sure put Sherry Peel Jackson in jail, and nearly killed her. They put Larken Rose in jail, too. I admire them both, but I don't want to go to jail.
Instead, we are trying to get in a position to earn so little money we are not taxed. Planned poverty is the peaceful resistance plan that keeps you in a prison without bars at least.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Willy

Isn't that what Willie Nelson is doing...somewhat? He's turning down 'gigs' because he refuses to give more money to those who took away his money and future money. Don't recall exactly but think it was his accountant who got him in trouble. A huge problem when taxes are so complicated a person can't do them. Unfortunately, if they screw up, you are the one responsible. A catch 22.

Deekey

Don't Forget

Peter Schiff's Dad!

skippy

I wondered what strategy was working the best

So that's why we are trying this.. Planned Poverty. The new American way! :P

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

I've never felt like I was in jail while trying to lower my tax

If anything, I feel more free. I think it's liberating to know that my standard of living will rise, along with my savings.

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It would only work if there were a critical mass

I mean tens of millions of people. That's what I am talking about.

Conceptually

a good idea... We all become the exempt class of citizens.
That would probably just lead to them lowering the level of exemption!
The 16th amendment is where the problem is! Our constitution was intended to be a document to limit what Govt can do... Not the document that gives them power over us!

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They'll just print the money

and I'm not so sure they can't put us all in jail. Don't mess with the IRS they can make your life miserable.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

That's what

they've been doing... But it can't go on! It will eventually crash the house of cards!

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

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However

it would be pretty awesome and it's a good idea. upvoted.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

I posted same type post last week. I AGREE!

I'm in!!! Let's spread this far and wide Facebook freedom group and beyond!!! Do we really have a choice??? They are pushing us against the wall now. Either we pay or stand up to them and say NO! What would our founding fathers do? A NON VIOLENT PROTEST IS NEEDED!!! NON VIOLENT and PEACEFUL IN EVERY STATE.

in the very first video I saw of the good Dr.

there he was on the floor of the house of representatives.
and when I heard him say that withholding your taxes was a form of peaceful, civil disobedience. I was stunned.
this is NOT something anyone should expect of a man with children.
but unless you are in a similar circumstance.
then it is only proper to look yourself in the mirror.
peace.

"They can't throw us all in jail."

No they can't and they're having problems now. I know many people who don't pay and some who haven't paid for 20 years or more. Nothing has happened to them yet.

If the risk is too much for you, there is another way. Bring your income down to the point that you don't have to pay. That might not sound too great to some of you because you might think it would mean that you'd have to lower your standard of living. Not near as much as you'd think if you take your time to work things out.

Trim your power bill by installing solar, wind and steam engines.

Reduce the size of your living expenses. Move onto a friends land or Buy land with friends and split the land payment. Then live in an rv, small camper, build a shed if you have to.

Raise your own food from gardens and livestock.. You'll save tons of money AND you'll eat better.

Get creative/think outside the box.. If you really want to accomplish something, you'll figure out how to do it.

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Hi again rp4pres

We talked a little bit a few weeks ago, and I really liked your ideas about simply lowering your economic footprint. I had already been doing that, but I have been really working on getting some friends and family members involved also.

If you do not mind me asking.... have you been able to get to a point yet where you are completely tax free? Will you be filing taxes for the year of 2012? Also, how long have you been actively striving to lower your economic footprint?

No worries if you'd rather not divulge such info, just wondering how far along you have come with this plan.

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Hey jrd

No not yet, so I am required to file this year but it's looking better. My consumer footprint has been lowered quite a bit and is getting better. My rabbits are almost ready for harvest so my meat expense will drop dramatically in the next 2 weeks.

As for my plan, I am about 2 months from income tax free status if everything works out. :)

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They can't throw us all in Jail...

but that is what they built all these new FEMA "Residential Facilities" for.

I don't think it would come to that... they would just garnish withholder's to pay the back tax. I don't know how much courtroom time is required for them to do that though. If millions did this and it does require a judgement, then it may at least have effect.

On the flip side, we would likely see them create some other monster of a bill to be able to pin a judgement on hundreds or thousands at a time in cattle calls.

I am among those that receive refunds every year. This sort of plan doesn't make sense for me, as a withholder.

"On the flip side, we would likely see them create some other

monster of a bill to be able to pin a judgement on hundreds or thousands at a time in cattle calls."

No reason for us not to try. Hell I'm not even calling for skipping taxes "illegally".. I'm calling for people to lower their so called responsibility by lower their economic footprint.

"I am among those that receive refunds every year. This sort of plan doesn't make sense for me, as a withholder."

Your statement is off a bit, do you not see that? So you don't want to rock the boat because you depend on a check each year that is merely a check for you overpaying?

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Do these people who don't pay

Do these people who don't pay have any significant income, or are they all living very cheaply like you suggest? IRS agents go after the biggest fish so they can get the biggest commissions. If someone looks like they live really cheaply, the IRS probably won't waste their own time unless they make it to the bottom of the barrel.

One time my parent's business

One time my parent's business was audited by the state tax board. They put my parents through hell and had a paid tax thief come out daily to their business to go over their books and records for a period of months. It cost the state his salary and whatnot and my parents had to spend months of their time providing documents and such. The state finally figured out a discrepancy of $100.

The upside is that I'm sure my dad put the tax thief through hell by constantly preaching about libertarianism and the Libertarian party for the entire time the tax thief was there. I'm sure he couldn't wait to get out of there ;).

Especially

when the cost to jail someone cost more than what the claim is owed...

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

It's a mix of both. That's why I laid it out like I did.

2 of them own relatively large companies. The rest are doing what I'm trying to do, which is live cheaply.

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Do you know full details

Do you know full details about those two, or are they just two people who said they don't pay taxes and left it at that? Can you share the info? It seems to be teasers so far.

Looking for commissions?

LOL..

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Don't care what their names

Don't care what their names are. I'll assume at this point you don't actually know anything about it.

Should I now rush to give you the info you were looking for?

You are so tricky Mr.IrsAgent! Not. :)

All needling aside.. No I don't care to share.. I probably shouldn't have said what I did but I take some pretty drastic measure in getting here to protect my identity so I CAN speak my mind.. I do limit myself somewhat, sometimes. :)

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Agreed. This is something the

Agreed. This is something the Liberty movement needs to organize. Set a date, get the word out, pray people do it.

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