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How does one go about being a "truther"?

I made a thread this morning trying to calm down truthers here. Through good arguments and directly proving my entire premise wrong, I'm on your side now. How do you go about being a truther in public? I know it's not easy but I'm in, I want to help out the truth.

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I will stand for Granger.

[I hope that I do not get flack for this, lol]

Granger is uninformed on some topics, just as I am. I enjoy the debate with her because we learn from each other. Granger is a wealth of information if you ponder and look closely.

The only real problem that I have with her is that she voted for obam-ney, so I like to rub it in :-P

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

'truther', another label

with a derogatory connotation...like 'conspracy theorists'.

And like a previous poster said, it is amazing how the media can take a word and turn its meaning on its head.

Bottom line...think for yourself...like you did when you admitted your mind was changed, I assume due to facts, and you decided to accept the facts and discard the parroted meme.

You won't be popular but you'll sleep better at night.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

I'm a

Truther, Birther, Bircher, Tenther, and I don't believe Ogolfer killed bin Laden, so I guess I'm a Deather too.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

Don't be a liar.

I'm quite frankly amazed at how the lame stream media can re-define the words of the English language so easily. Then you get people being afraid to admit that they want the TRUTH.

That's what a freakin truther is. We want the truth. Has nothing to do with 9/11. A "truther" is someone who wants the truth. It doesn't take a brain surgeon or a rocket scientist to figure out that the LAME stream media is LAME and is basically a "government" mouthpiece, and that almost every shill in "government" is a criminal sociopathic narrow-minded scumbag.

Even the general population that never votes knows the "government" is by and large corrupt. Seriously... how is it people are so duped into believing that wanting the TRUTH is somehow BAD?

the answer is... you don't.

the question is whether you have been lied to or misled.
only you can determine that. I went into a state of shock and actually cried when I finally determined that the "official" conspiracy theory plays out like a Chinese fire drill....
it is nice if you have joined us. but the media has control of this subject. it is probably best to talk about sound money instead.

for now what you should probably do is to sharpen your skills here. we get PLENTY of both drive-by trolls and also the professional type. we even have perma-trolls here.
good luck and Godspeed.

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I do talk about sound money

I'm much better at that, but I often keep my mouth shut about conspiracies. Mostly out of fear or ridicule, and that is wrong. I justified it to myself because I thought refuting these things was good for politics. I thought talking about conspiracies and Ron Paul would cause others to discredit Ron Paul himself, I still think that to a degree.

However, I think I have a moral obligation to share the information I've learned to others politely. I feel an obligation to be a "Paul Revere" to all the men and women who have sacrificed their lives on the altar of freedom. I think it is necessary to talk about these lies and fight the disinformation. I am no longer afraid.

I know they will be skeptical, I always have treated others who talk conspiracy skeptically but I couldn't unlearn what they said. I've made fun of Alex Jones and Infowars more way more than once, but I still checked his site for information weekly. This thing is hard to believe, but there isn't no doubt that the Government is lying about 9/11 and JFK.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

New info ?

You read everything! Believe some and always back up what you've read if possible. Share.

wwwdevvy.com has been accurate info for me in past years. Have learned a lot from her.
Link on her web page to this:
There is a record of communications accepted by flight 175 near PA. long AFTER the plane [sic] hit the building.
ACARS CONFIRMED - 9/11 AIRCRAFT AIRBORNE LONG AFTER CRASH

Hey Texas..........

Might want to go to her site since Rick, Gov of Texas is working to bring back that super highway NAFTA deal that was stopped a few years ago by the people. He is resurrecting it. www.devvy.com

Deekey

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Thanks for sharing

I'm heading to www.devvy.com right now! I had never heard that of flight 175, very interesting. Along with that infamous video where the girl declares "That wasn't American Airlines"

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

If we are not brave we will not be free.

I am no longer afraid.

Welcome to the REAL info-war.

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Yo Vince

sorry for acting like a troll to you before. People need to hear conspiracies.... often.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

I hear ya Brother. and I will share this.

I have actual credentials working in high rise buildings. I was trained to do my work in them in the late 80's early 90's. and I still do work in them to this day.
my intimate knowledge of them allowed me to see the truth. at least as far as the buildings were concerned. the events and ramifications of 911 are indeed a reason to have a fire in your heart.
I have found that people are either to closed minded or lacking in technical skills to broach this subject with them.
I can probably help if you have lingering questions about the buildings.
it gives me both hope and pause that people are continuing to hear the message.
peace.

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Indeed...and the Government is lying about

The Gulf of Tonkin Incident in Vietnam LIE (58,000 American troops dead later)

The Persian Gulf War (the girl who claimed was a witness to Iraqi troops yanking preemie Kuwaiti babies out of incubators was actually the daughter of the Kuwait Ambassador to the US...and coaxed by an American PR firm to make it believable to Congress.

You may be aware of the WMD lie that led to the Iraq war of 2003 and then there is that pesky little issue called 9-11 that may call into question why we should have ever dropped munitions on Afghanistan...a country already bedeviled with so much war, suffering and human misery it is mind-blowing.

Oh yeah...then there is that controversial point....that FDR and Secretary of War Henry Stimson knew FULL well that the "Japs" were going to attack...and that Pearl Harbor was therefore PREVENTABLE...yet they LET IT HAPPEN....and then 450,000 dead American men later...we "won" World War II.

Then there is the equally controversial point regarding WWI....that Woodrow Wilson and Britain's Churchill knew...KNEW...that the Lusitania, a British passenger ship, full of unsuspecting passengers...and secretly stored munitions for the Brits below...was a SITTING DUCK....and BOOM...they ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN...to end the war to end all wars. Yeah right! 115,000 dead American young men later.

Geez. What better way for the Global Elite to weaken the population of the Land of the Free, than to kill off, continually, all of its alpha-males, in a perpetual state of war??

And of course we could go back beyond that with other false flag events such as the sinking of the Maine in 1898....but I will stop for now.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

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Awesome comment

Good stuff.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

You Fall Into.....

.... a rabbit hole and then all the rabbits inside educate you. Then you gotta learn "the handshake and all the cryptic sayins....."

Then Walla! Yer one of us. Just don't forget to wear your ears when you come to the meetins or you'll end up gettin the "enhanced spank'n technique" AND you have to like it :0 ....."

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Took the red pill did you?

1. Be objective.
2. Know your subject matter. E.g. chemistry, physics, history, etc.
3. Compare what you know to the official report.

How to do it in public?
1. Don't be afraid to be called a "truther". Personally, I wear that label proudly. After all, what's the alternative? A denier? A falser?
2. Procede to speak about nos. 2 and 3 above.
3. Stay calm.

I've learned not to engage when things get overheaded. Sometimes debating can cause the denier to dig in that much more. There are a lot of people out there, such as yourself, who can be objective. Others can't or won't. I prefer to simply move on from the latter. I now find them a waste of my time. There a lot of the former to wake up. And to a great extent, this is a numbers game.

Alternative to being a "truther" is a "liar"

If you're going to go around supporting official stories does that not make you a liar?

If you truly believe the stories, no, you're not lying.

You just don't know the truth yet.

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How to be a TRUTHER?

[I am reposting this from below so new folks can see it. Also, editor's note...the term "TRUTHer" is meant as derogatory but I, as a recent one to climb aboard the 9-11 Truth Movement, wear it as a badge of honor. Everyone should be a "TRUTHer" which essentially means, they want the truth. What is the alternative.. being a LIESer? No thanks!]

Ignore disinformation agents on here and people with their head up their hindquarters when all the evidence of 9-11 is staring them in their blind faces....and proceed forward.

Seems like everybody who is rational and sane and acknowledges the existence of absolute truth...would want to get the full story of the events of 9-11...and not necessarily the "official" story sanctioned by the government and parroted by their state-run media outlets...but stranger things have happened.

If anything, appealing to people's moral nature, that anybody who understood "moral responsibility"...that, when 3,000 innocent people died that day, and 6,000 of our troops have been killed because of that day, and that it has been the FAMILIES of all the victims of that day that have really initiated the 9-11 Truth Movement....that we have a MORAL RESPONSIBILITY to get to the truth.

But yet...even after all that...mountains of evidence readily available, millions of people calling for a new investigation...and that pesky little concept called "moral responsibility"...STILL...these so called "debunkers" and deniers and disinformation agents proceed with their primitive, deceptive process.

IGNORE THEM!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

So many are still confused....

Those who can consistently focus their mind on rational thinking can embark on the search for truth.

For the rest (who can only use mind of others) I suggest the different path - focus on fighting for LIBERTY. If liberty allows people to be left alone, people will be allowed to have their own "truth." No name calling, no high brow attitude.

Simply talk to people...

... start with the people you love. If it is important for you that they become informed about the realities we all face then start there.

Most people, who are not aware of the conspiracies against us, including your friends and family will think your crazy at first. They will call you paranoid. Some will call you unpatriotic. Others will shun you.

There will also be those who will listen with and open mind and ask questions. Then they too will continue to doubt things from top to bottom. Those are the ones who will themselves become seekers of truth and justice.

Just keep talking to others and don't let their ignorance or apathy stop you. Just plant an idea in there mind. Let them know that you see things differently and tell them why.

I am amazed at how many people have woken up since 9/11/01. Truthers have the most popular radio shows and websites now. Truthers have national televisions shows.

Truthers are making a positive difference and that is all that matters and one day vindication will be ours.

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"The greatest mystery of all is truth." - Me, 2009

"Truther" is simply a

"Truther" is simply a rediculous label made to try and help and discredit certain people.

You dont go about "being a truther", you go about using logic and thinking skills, something that should be valued in every day life anyway.

On the opposite side of the coin, you could call those who believe the government story as "trusters".

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

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I like it

Truster, that's a good one. I'll definitely call anyone calling me crazy from now on a truster.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Think Critically

Think Rationally

Just open the box and see

To me being a truther goes a

To me being a truther goes a little beyond questioning things you're not supposed to question... there's one or two things you don't just question, but you *know* with every fiber of your being you are being lied to about. If you dig deep enough into just about anything, you'll find that something that makes you go 'oh my God, I've been lied to'. When that happens you'll never be able to see the world the same ever again. People pick up on that absolute confidence of *knowing*, and it shakes them up a little. Makes them listen, or at least wonder.

I was 'lucky' with 9-11. As an airline industry insider the truth came to me, I knew from day one something was profoundly wrong. I rarely speak of it though. I very much admire you 'outsiders' who were smart enough to figure it out on your own; I'm not sure I would have. I also admire the courage of the outspoken among you; I am not so brave.

Know what is right...

Know in your heart what is right and wrong and not let anyone dissuade you on your journey thru life.

RickStone

Always

seek the truth no matter how unpopular and it doesn't stop at the DP.

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

Gently

Some practices that work for me include these:

Be gentle but firm, and always speak in tentative, not definitive terms. Present your case in the form of questions, not answers, thus inviting your “student” to think it through.

Always keep in mind that opening eyes amounts to shattering a person's world view.

When educating “truth”, keep in mind how you felt when the penny first dropped for you that the world is not as you thought it was. Allow people time and space to come to terms with that before overloading them with information.

I find it helps to start by educating on how a "conspiracy" was exploited, and work backwards from there.

Most people can readily see the exploitation. They need gentle nudging to take the next step in the journey of enlightenment – that is, open their minds to the possibility that the incident being exploited may not have transpired by pure coincidence.

I also find that persuading people to abandon their support for coincidence theories first requires them to understand the corporate media and the brainwashing techniques it uses. People are indoctrinated to trust the media to tell them what’s important and while most people distrust the media to some degree, they still allow themselves to be deceived by it.

As long as they believe some of what the media is telling them, they will hold onto their false world-view. Intelligent people don’t like to admit to themselves that they have been duped by the media. Give them some time and space to absorb that before moving on with the educating process.

Good Advice

It can be hard to hold back if you have lots of info in your head and want to convey the info ; but it will make people a little stunned.
If your world view is skeptical of power or authority, or government etc., like many of us, I might think that is healthy. Some
people are not receptive.

Mikoni

I Walk around with a silver ounce bullion coin

And when people ask me about it I tell them the story of gold and paper money, the creation of fractional reserve banking, how it works and who uses it. When I finally wrap it all up by explaining these points I included the fact that we are all financially enslaved to a group of certain individuals who through their monopolies on our money wish to use the U.N to seek one world government.

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I usually carry a silver dime and a regular dime

I've kept an old mercury dime in my wallet for years. Not because of silver, but because I used it as a ball marker on the golf course one day and I finished with 21 putts that day. It's been my good luck charm but lately I've used and asked people what the difference between the dimes is. Then explaining that one is worth around $2.00 and the other just keeps buying less.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson