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There are two civil wars going on right now: In the GOP and the Democratic Party

http://ian56.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/there-are-two-wars-going...

There is a WAR in the GOP because John Boehner has sold out EVERY principle that the Republicans have ever stood for. Whatever happened to small government, fiscal discipline and balanced budgets? Purge Boehner.

There is a WAR in the DEMS because Barack Obama has sold out EVERY principle the Dems have ever stood for. Whatever happened to protecting and promoting the interests of the poorer elements of society?

Why is Obama protecting record Corporate profits to the detriment of the overwhelming majority of Americans? Real wages are now at 40 year lows and poverty is rapidly rising.

Why hasn't Obama put any bankers in jail?

Why is he trying to link Social Security to chained CPI?

Barack Obama's sell out of his supporters.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022028407
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022045904

Robert Reich "We should cut military spending and Corporate Welfare."

BOTH parties have sold out their respective bases in order to favor certain large Corporations.

The solution to the Fiscal Cliff is simple - but NEITHER party is even mentioning the obvious solutions. They don't want the obvious solutions to even be discussed - cutting $1 trillion+ of ANNUAL government WASTE.

In truth there is really only one war going on at the moment. A war by ordinary Americans against their political leaders who have sold them and America down the river.

Help light the fire.

Wind the supporters of both Parties AND the Indies up at EVERY opportunity.
Help spread the word, outside of here, on the TOTAL hypocrisy in Washington DC.

http://ian56.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/there-are-two-wars-going...

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Hopefully, the statists on both sides will not be the victors

and liberty lovers on both sides will work together.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Some of the Dems are waking up

I am trying to encourage them to wake up and getting some great comments back.

Robert Reich "we should be cutting military spending and Corporate Welfare"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022045904

The Rule of Law no longer applies in America
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022078478

Barack Obama in a breathtaking display of cynicism sells out to large Corporations
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022028407

A catalog of massive criminality - the big banks. The mainstream media are finally waking up
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022091292

GWH Bush, JFK's assassination, the CIA and drugs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022082638

NDAA is a direct attack against legitimate protest and dissent
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022064803

The Enemy Expatriation Act - another attack on legitimate protest and dissent like NDAA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022072450

Others are posting good stuff out as well

Oliver Stone to RT - the US has become an Orwellian State
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022090079
See comments 2,4 & 5 where Bastiat and the rule of law is discussed

As true as it ever was - Good Will Hunting & the NSA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101789092

Kucinich "The Pentagon cannot account for $1.2 trillion"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022091384

Revealed : How the FBI co-ordinated the crackdown on Occupy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014351009

For those with a Huffy Po account - I am also trying to spread the message on there
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Ian56?action=comments

I don't know if other people can see this
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Ian56?action=notifications

Maybe it is easier to get to the Dems than it is to the even more brainwashed GOP?

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

Robert Reich

Robert Reich "We should cut military spending and Corporate Welfare." Sounds like RP.

KEY point right here:

"In truth there is really only one war going on at the moment. A war by ordinary Americans against their political leaders who have sold them and America down the river."

As long as people focus on THAT point, we can stand united. But we are all deeply conditioned to aid the divide and conquer brigade. There are so many forms of injustice and oppression, we each find our personal passion and fight from that position. That is fine, except when we end up fragging our allies over "lesser" issues.
For instance, and I am not saying that abortion is not a worthy issue that needs intelligent debate, but that is not what happens now. Abortion is THE wedge that keeps peace and justice seeking "liberals" from teaming up with peace and justice seeking "conservatives." IF Conservatives could lead by example, and say "Lets stand together to stop funding the bombing of babies all over the world as an executive privilege at taxpayer expense" every time they WANT to defend the unborn, we would find some passionate allies. And if liberals would suddenly find they were not on a "Pro Choice" defensive posture every time they ran into a Conservative, they might even listen to the Conservative about things like fiat currency.
There are a lot of zombies, they will follow whoever looks shiny. But there are a LOT of awake people now, albeit at varying degrees of wakefulness. The more we can agree to disagree about any and all specifics, the better we can focus on the big picture: An utterly corrupt government placed by entirely rigged elections. (Even if there is no fraud, the way the media bias and corporate donations swing elections is one of the things the liberals have caught on to.)

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

i agree 110%

I've been doing this exact thing to help people, friends, family and strangers to get them to understand that there are much bigger fish to ferry. Abortion is used by liberals to essentially stop some "conservatives" cognitively think. It's unfortunately used this way when some of them are losing arguments or just want to change the subject. So far though it's been working well to get people to wake up and realize how messed up it really is. Unfortunately it is a slow process. Slowly but surely were getting people to wake up so keep up the good fight people.

Homeland security statement: patriotism is now considered terrorism.
I love www.isidewith.com shared it with everyone I know. If anything they realize its not just a red and blue idiot running for reelection.

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Some good points to share with others. Thanks!