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FDA secretly legalizes GM salmon during holidays while nobody was watching

(NaturalNews) Once the bastion of purity, seafood has now entered the realm of "manufactured" sustenance, thanks to a couple of U.S. government bureaucracies.

The Food and Drug Administration has granted permission to a firm that will allow it to produce GM salmon, a decision that has been called a genetically modified food "breakthrough" by breathless journalists who obviously don't understand the gravity of what has just occurred.

According to Britain's Independent newspaper, the FDA's decision means the salmon - which reportedly grow twice as fast as ordinary fish - "could become the first genetically-modified animal in the world to be declared officially safe to eat."

In reaching its decision FDA officials said they couldn't find any valid scientific reasons to ban production of GM Atlantic salmon, which are engineered using extra genes from two other species of fish - the Pacific Chinook salmon and an eel-like species called the ocean pout.

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More pseudoscience inspired authoritarianism from Mike Adams

Seriously this guy does NOT GET IT. He does not get the tenets of a free society (even though he gives lip service to it sometimes) and does not understand science. His scientific beliefs are rooted in superstition and he demands that the government enforce his pseudoscience.

Who cares if salmon are genetically modified to have certain genes? It is a more controllable variation of selective breeding.

Why do people keep posting NaturalNews crap here?

Oh, only because we don't want our genes messed with,

nor the natural food chain that has supported life on this planet for eons.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Because people who seek truth

Because people who seek truth about politics, finance etc... also seek truth about other topics, such as health, and the truth is that poor nutrition is a root cause of many western health illnesses. Not to suggest that all GM foods are unsafe, but GM foods aren't foods that our ancestors ate and that our genetics evolved to be able to process. As such, discretion suggests that GM foods should be viewed with some skepticism.

There is growing evidence that even "quickly" genetically engineered foods, such as modern wheat, may be unhealthy foods.

http://www.amazon.com/Wheat-Belly-Lose-Weight-Health/dp/1609...

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

You are the one who doesn't

You are the one who doesn't get it. When these fish get into the wild they will contaminate millions of years of selective breeding by nature for the salmons environment and assuredly have unintended consequences that will cause harm to the salmon species and us.

This is not about free enterprise this is about causing harm to us and our environment it is unlawful!

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Get Prepared!

It really makes me wonder if we shouldn't be trying to

start a Noah's ark of some sort before this happens, for the future.

I don't fear a whole lot in life, but in this case, I think it's very warranted.

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It's already been done...

many years ago already. Here, watch this from 60 Minutes back in 2008: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=3960837n

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"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

A "more controllable variation of selective breeding"

is corporate propaganda. Selective breeding happens within the boundaries of species. Genetic engineering blasts dna into other dna (shotgun technique), bypassing natural processes of reproduction, which prevent perverse and unpredictable expressions of the genome. The "products" have no place in a free market. Whatever you think of Mike Adams, this isn't a debate about markets, but about the right to own and patent life, and replace the biosphere with living "product" lines, that can destroy, by cross-breeding, the integrity of wild populations.

"and replace the biosphere with living "product" lines, that can

destroy, by cross-breeding, the integrity of wild populations."

You'd think this would be glaringly obvious being that we have many examples of non-GMO aggressive gene species introduced, either accidentally or intentionally, into various ecosyetems, that have reeked havoc on them.

Let's take the potential poison to humans through consumption out for a second and think of just that alone.

Can people not see the danger of trying to be the creator of life? These companies are like greed crazed kids in a science class, dead set on the idea that they can get rich if they can only figure out how to market Frankenstein monster to the general population.

Why are they pushing so hard for crazy ideas like this when they could focus on natural ways to increase food production. They're exactly like the pharma industry I guess where the seemingly only thing they care about is how much money the next drug will make them without the first concern as to whether they should be selling it or not.

It's insane, seriously insane. I'm not joking.

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I Don't Mind

I don't mind more things being legal, as long as they don't legalize fraud. As long as I can still sue for fraud, or negligence, involuntary manslaughter, pain and suffering, etc., they can make selling snake venom and marijuana legal, for all I care.

It isn't the governments' job to ban substances.

I'm sure that if any of these get lose in the wild, someone will certainly sue. If I were concerned, I'd have a chat with their insurance company. It seems like the added cost of insurance might make the "improved" fish uncompetitive.

Refuse to buy fish that isn't guaranteed to be non-GMO. Those who are willing to make that guarantee deserve more of our business.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

I really recommend aquaponics.

You can set up a small system in an apartment, and harvest fish that you KNOW are fit to eat. If you belong to a church or have kids in a school, help them set up a system. BP oil in the Gulf of Mexico, Fukushima on the Pacific Ocean, Frankenfood on the farms. You're government cannot, will not, does not want to, provide a safe food supply. This is the bottom line on liberty - free to know you are eating food, not poison.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Not Nutritious

Farmed fish do not have the nutritional value of wild fish, so you have to balance that against the problem of contamination.

You also have to feed the fish something, so do you grow that, too?

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

I would like to dispel this myth

There are two types of "farming" at play here.

Statements like farmed fish and shrimp do not have as much nutrition or have too much ammonia are based on a type of fish farm that is, in itself, unsustainable. These farms keep the fish in tanks that rarely get their water changed. They cycle numerous generations of young and old fish through the same water while only adding to or recirculating a small portion of the water. This allows nitrates and many other things to build up, and causes developmental issues throughout the process. This. is. bad.

What Fishy is referring to is a system called aquaponics where all of the water is constantly filtered and nutritionally 'fed' by plants simultaneously growing in the course of everyday operation. This system actually eliminates more nitrates than a natural environment does and it makes that environment such that every minute is like the marine life were just then introduced to some paradise of food and health. This is why these systems typically have higher growth rates and if done really well, why they are actually much more nutritious than purely natural raised ones. It's not that anything is changed but rather that everything natural is constantly refreshed.

Coincidentally, the plants used in this cooperating system also see an increase in nutritional value, even though all fertilizing, herbicides, pesticides and other 'chemical' costs are eliminated. This makes growing them essentially free.

And of course, the aquaponics system can be further broken into two categories. One purchases commercial feed (with it's host of concerns) and one where the fish food comes from the on-site food chain. I believe the referenced suggestion above is the latter.

As an example of all this: A newish shrimp farm that does not recycle their used water without 'refreshing' it (via mechanical methods, not natural - so I won't promote them here) has been running surveys in their tour for a few years. They claim that almost no one in the US (sans the locals in the south) has tasted low-no ammonia shrimp in the memorable past. They claim that people can taste the difference immediately and that after doing so, people can't seem to stomach the high ammonia taste in store-bought shrimp. External reviews of this poll suggest it is valid.

What really needs to be encouraged in this discussion is that the total cost per pound of fish eaten for the 3 types (natural, commercial farm, integrated cycle farm) is lower by as much as 20-50% in that order. Unfortunately, the last option hasn't been successfully scaled up very large as of yet so there's no perceived big money in it.

TL:DR version - commercial farms bad... smaller and natural fish farms better and cheaper than even naturally grown and caught.

Hmmm, not as nutritious

or frankenfood.

Let me think.....

Wait a minute....

Ok, Ok... frankenfood!

NOT. :)

The potential for mishap? We are human after all.... frankenfood will have the same effect that big pharma products have... mark my words.

One can either err on the side of caution and I like to think logic and reason, or one can roll the dice and hope for the best. Since I have a high respect for life.. my own, my family and others.. I don't believe in gambling.

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Yes.

We use tilapia, and you grow a bed of duckweed for food, plus they eat veggies.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

You educated so many people on this issue

With great vids like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_4BLuh5yA

When SHTF a lot of people will not go hungry and starve because of your work my friend.

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Amen!

I know Fishyculture in the real world and she and her husband have indeed done so much on this and inspired me on it too!

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I think you can just buy....

Wild salmon. Unless the GM salmon escape into the wild at least you have an option. Farm raised salmon has almost no nutrition in it and is not really worth eating. If you are health conscious.

Health conscious?

You'd think someone who is "Health conscious" would get the GMO=Bad argument, at a glance.

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Well said

"Farm raised salmon has almost no nutrition."

Same as almost all food the evil machine feeds us.
Wanting to kill us all.

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That have to do it in secret

People will not accept frankenfish if it's done openly.

Americans will accept what they're told to accept

Americans, by and large, accept anything that is marketed as being in their best interests. This "frankenfish" will be no different. Most are either too uninterested to care, or too dim to realize the implications.

When the time comes (and it will) that the TSA insists that they perform random anal cavity searches in schools, stadiums, malls, et cetera, Americans will accept that too, all the while boasting about how "free" and "brave" they are.

"Sure, a man is currently elbow deep in my rectum, but if it keeps those invisible mooselimb terr'ists from blowing up my favorite stadium, then it's worth it!" - Joe Blow, three years from now.

A signature used to be here!

Cynical AND graphic

You've got class!

LOL, sorry about that

I was in a particularly "bold" mood that day.

Actually no, I was just being a jerk. Sorry about that, though I stand by my position. ;0

A signature used to be here!

FED Reserve act was also passed during Christmas time

--back in 1913.

That's the evil machine at work picking the right time to place more chains on our bodies and minds.

I feel like composing another poem.

Thank you for the all important first bump.

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