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Busted: The Rifle Found in Lanza's Trunk is Not a Bushmaster.

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http://digitaljournal.com/article/340113

Um, The Rifle Found in Lanza's Trunk is Not a Bushmaster.

After two weeks of media reports that a .223 AR-15 Bushmaster was found in the trunk of Lanza's car, gun aficionados point out that the rifle is not a Bushmaster, nor even an AR-class assault weapon. Gun experts say that the weapon shown in an NBC News report is some kind of shotgun.

Washington Post:

"He had two semiautomatic pistols and a .223-caliber rifle, law enforcement officials said. He apparently used only the handguns, which were later found in the school. The rifle was found in the vehicle."

CNN:

"Three weapons were recovered from the school: a semi-automatic .223 Bushmaster found in a car in the school parking lot, and a Glock and a Sig Sauer found with Lanza's body, a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation said. The weapons were legally purchased by Lanza's mother, the official said."

Now it turns out that the rifle found in the trunk is not a Bushmaster at all, The police officer is, in gun owner's jargon, cycling a bolt to clear the weapon. An AR uses a charging handle...READ MORE http://digitaljournal.com/article/340113

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Um...was the car registered to Lanza?

And why was the car sitting there all day before they looked into the trunk?

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

looks like a saiga 12 to me

looks like a saiga 12 to me

This is Old News

The discovery of a shotgun found in the car was stated by Lt. Vance in an article published on December 16. See: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/we-have-wept-with-you-says-obama... .

Search for the word 'shotgun'.

thanks for posting

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Lets try to find a way a despeate mother needs help there will

Lets try to find a way when a desperate mother needs help she can get it.

Lets look for solutions not blame,
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In Philly PA RichardKanePA

Best independent investigative work on Sandy Hook

that I've seen so far is here:

I've seen so far (by far):

http://tinylink.net/99562

put together by someone whose handle is greadygeniu$

He(?) has checked into the background of Rodia and
also people who lived in the the address the car was registered
to. Rodia has a long criminal record and is said to be
in Florida avoiding outstanding warrants in Connecticut.

That's assuming he hasn't experienced an unfortunate accident,
or succumbed to a sudden urge to commit suicide..

George Uzar Jr. who lived at the Vollmer Ave. address where
the car is registered to .

Uzar's father, George Sr. is in federal prison for illegal manufacture
of automatic weapons. Jr. was also arrested in a raid targeting the
father.

Welcome to the Year of the Snake!!

I agree, very shady, but we need PROOF.

Some one needs to link the Rodia to the car at Sandy Hook OFFICIALLY. Trust me, I was convinced the car was Rodia's, but then I listened to the argument that Rodia was being stopped in a separate, unrelated traffic stop. I listened again to the scanner, and they may be right. I am not saying THAT is "the truth" either, I am saying we have reasonable doubt, and we need to see proof.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Its critical

if all he had was 2 hand guns. This means they can't use Sandy Hook as propaganda for the new gun laws they are pushing for.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

Where did the report of 2 handguns come from?

Did the police tell the media that, or did the media make it up? The police scanner warns of rifles and shotguns VERY early in the call, long before the shooter is found. Why would they say that?

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Because things were chaotic

It was before the shooter was found, so that means basically they're going off either some kind of frantic phone call from someone who heard shots or they heard shots themselves and didn't recognize them.

Most all early warnings and reportings like that get things wrong.

Eric Hoffer

Links, please?

I have searched high and low for an explanation of why the officers said that, and I have not found one. Where did you find this explanation? Although, it is a set of possible explanations, not really an explanation.
There is a time and place for giving people the benefit of the doubt. During a mass murder investigation is not the time nor place.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

right.....

When have Washington politicians ever let facts get in the way of a propaganda piece pushing their agenda?

Personally

My first reaction was, its a Saiga 12 gauge with a Monte Carlo stock, with a 10 round Mag. It's definitely not a Armalite that's for sure. But it also looks like some sort of hunting rifle as well I can't really tell. No way in hell its a AR variant. Maybe a mini 14 ranch rifle with black furniture?

"Freedom is Popular"

Just a little info people should understand/

The AR in AR 15 does not stand for assault Rifle. It stands for the name of the original company that designed the gun. ArmaLite. It is simply a modern sporting rifle. Not an assault weapon. My neighbors rifle can do anything my AR can do. Mine is just louder, lighter weight, and has less recoil. A great rifle for a lady.

Just the way

The cop is handling the gun from the trunk in the video is unreal. Hands all up and down it etc. You don't handle "evidence" like that. He would be wiping off prints ect.
It was definitely not an AR 15.

All this disinformation has a formidable purpose.

With all this disinformation who knows what to believe? So many different stories who do you trust? Thats the point! If it doesn't make sense most people are programed to go back to thinking about something that does make sense, like American Idle, MSM or daily life of family & job.

To feelings which arise from questioning authority and your own belief systems are uncomfortable for most people who don't want to be made to feel wrong. Disinformation is a very effective tool to switch on disinterest in the masses regarding the issues that drive policy.

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

The murder weapon is a pretty important piece of evidence

I cannot believe how many people are willing to chalk it up to "human error" of any stripe. The police scanner - first thing they report is rifle and shotgun. Then the media tells us it was 2 hand guns. Then the coroner tells us everyone died from long guns. Then we see the cops taking what people who know guns say looks like a shotgun. Then we have the police say ony long guns were with Adam. Then the coroner says Adam died from a handgun. Well, then we have 2 handguns and 2 long guns. And somewhere along the way we got up to 4 handguns for a while. And... THIS IS THE MURDER WEAPON WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. Getting it right THE FIRST TIME is what cops are paid and trained to do. If it is all media error, the media needs to issue corrections.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Apparently-

The 'illusion of choice' isn't just for the ballot box.

The police scanner

The original info and police scanner both said the shooter was Ryan Lanza not Adam.
Do you think Adam framed his brother?

And the media corrected the name.

They have yet to offer any correction on the guns. And no one has done any accounting for bullets. This in light of magic bullets going through brick and another car to hit the one teacher's car.
And the police used the ID on Adam to make the incorrect assumption - this is all explained, That is what I want about the MURDER WEAPON(S.)

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Were guns getting up and walking on and off the crime scene

by themselves? Isn't where guns lay once the shooting is over the most important piece of evidence to freeze into place? Do you just start picking up guns and ruining fingerprints, or do you put crime scene tape around each one so it can be photographed where it lays? Isn't it so important you would post a guard at each found gun?

It's not like getting the number of bullet holes wrong a few times. How do you get the number and type of guns wrong? HOW? This is the question which should be asked. I tend to believe the media was printing exactly what law enforcement told them.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

debunked

i saw a YouTube clip of them (media) claim both ar-15 and a larger barrel gun (probably a shotgun) was found in the car after the shooting. it was reported soon after the shooting and the info was from a police source i believe.

there is plenty of misinformation out there as is normal in these kinds of situations. each media company wants to get the scoop and be the first to report and have everyone watch them and make more money off the tragedy. i gave up paid tv years ago and have noticed i'm not as affected as others by this story as sad as it is. judging by others obsessions with this i'm guessing that the msm has 24hr. endless reports on this like they have been doing since the OJ Simpson debacle.

for me the debate front we should all be focused on now is protecting the second amendment.

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no you didn't see it or you would post the video

..so you are lying. If you are not post the video.

Moreover, the point is the story has changed over time. That is right in the article. You mean to tell me the cops can't do something as basic as count the number and type of guns that were found? There is nothing more basic to a crime scene. Nothing. If they can't do that they can't do anything.

If we assume they are reasonably competent then we have to ask, why the discrepancies? Could it be they are lying or changing the story for a reason?

Release the Sandy Hook video.

There's no cause for calling someone a liar.

Not everyone records everything they watch.

It is 100% possible the commenter DID see such a news clip, but was not recording it at the time.

Hell, I don't record ANYTHING I watch. Does that mean if I relay what I saw then I'm automatically a liar because I can't produce a copy I never had in the first place?

I can't help but chuckle, We

I can't help but chuckle, We bitch and moan about the ineptitude and inaccuracy of the media and then we make a conspiracy and squabble amongst ourselves based on the same inaccuracies, misunderstanding of firearms and ineptitude of the media. Kind of ironic.

This is a non story, but don't let me slow you down. I'm sure the PTB love watching the dog chase it's tail.

It is fun to watch the nutters cream themselves

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No one is claiming the Bushmaster was in the trunk...

Do you really think the kid shot 26 people with his AR ran out to his trunk put it in, then ran back into the school and shot himself?

Or do you think like most of the rational world that he brought a shot gun to the school in his trunk in addition to the two hand guns and the AR

Actually

The gun in the trunk was not in Lanzas (or his mothers) car trunk. The car belonged to someone else entirely. Forget his name , but you can google it. He has a pretty extensive criminal record.

Christopher Rodia

http://www.dailypaul.com/267333/who-is-christo-pher-a-rodia-...

Not sure if anyone has gotten confirmation on that yet with license plate check.

Typical disinfo inane argument

You just read at least two news reports of the AR being found in the trunk. You even call yourself bilderberger LOL.

Welcome. These guys eat people like you alive here.

Release the Sandy Hook video.