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NY Times Calls For Scrapping Constitution

We must be close, they're openly publishing subversive propaganda now. Good to see them showing their true colors.

Let’s Give Up on the Constitution

AS the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/31/opinion/lets-give-up-on-th...



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Give up the Constitution:

"We should continue to follow those requirements out of respect, not obligation."

Should, not must. Out of respect, not obligation.

So does that mean that hillary may not run? I mean, king obama could stay planted as long as HE deems necessary.

Well the Congress is useless anyway, so why not. I'm certain that boehner & co. would do whatever is politely asked. ginsburg is ready to step down, maybe she can hold the newly designed flag up in the air, and smile for the camera.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

too chicken for comments

too chicken for comments on his "op-ed" huh?

what a coward. And an ignorant fool. One of the most ignorant things I've read all year.

His desire is basically for a

His desire is basically for a free-market government, where majority/mob rules. Because that is the consequences of a governmental system without boundaries and rules.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

In fairness...

The piece linked to is an op-ed... This means it is the opinion of the contributor, not necessarily the opinion of the NY Times entire.

ATTENTION DOWNVOTERS: It's an op-ed. This is a simple fact.

So, it would be the "Independent States of America"

Would that make this rogue Regime element of the government and ALL of its conspirators a common enemy among the states?

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

If you don't like

The constitution, amend it.

I was about to post this same thought

Though a Constitution is a binding of our rights as sovereign individuals, if we don't like it, it can be amended. Oh, that's right... we don't bother with that any more... IT'S TOO HARD!

That seems to be the inconvenient truth.

Beat me to it...

Notice how the Nazi's never propose something that they know they cannot control the outcome of - which is a constitutional amendment.

Vote fraud is impossible with a constitutional amendment.

Case law

Case law is what is usurping the constitution. Judges(Lawyers) deciding what becomes law is Talmudic in nature.

Talmudic phariseeism is Jewish. Has nothing to with "Nazis".

How ignorant or disingenuous can one be.

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

Madness & folly

"...we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance. ":o
This is exactly what the Statists have been doing for 235 years and certainly more so since 1913. Freedom for who?

With all due respect, I will no longer be a voting prostitute for Constitution rejecting harlots.

So how many States are going to repeal the Constitution?

This article is ridiculous. The guy claims to be a constitutional 'expert' yet makes a statement like this:
"If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian" when it's 'We the people of Delaware, Rhode Island,' etc. I didn't read anywhere that he knew the States created the 'federal' government.

He complains that the DC rats don't follow the Constitution and instead of saying the States need to force DC to follow their constitutional obligations we should instead abandon it forgetting the beauty of the document is that it's amendable.
The real problem is the 2 party system wherby both parties act as one tyrannical force.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Seidman, Seidman….

Must be another one of those evil Germans.

Sounds Iranian to me....

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"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

sarcasm folks.

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"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

;-) Let's look at this from

;-) Let's look at this from the silver lining point of view:

The international agent for the American Union is the United States. It is the Constitution which formed the United States.. That now fascist dictatorial entity we refer to as the Federal Government.

Without the Constitution there is no union. No Federal government. All that remains are the sovereign nations which formed the union: The states of the former union.

So, without a federal government we have no Federal Income Tax. No IRS. No Federal Reserve Bank. No CIA, ATF, FBI, Homeland Security, or TSA. No Obama-Care. No Social Security thievery, And no more federal military, which means an end to all foreign wars.

These are not bad things. Maybe Louis Michael Seidman ( http://www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/seidman-louis-michael.cfm) is on to something.

~ Engage in the war of attrition: http://pacalliance.us/redamendment/

Corporate charters for "legal fiction" are filed w/ her majesty.

The English Majesty granted royal charters for each of the 13 original colonies. Weather those original colony subjects had authority to grant subordinate or superlative charters has been ridiculed in Brittan & Europe for centuries. Drama occurred in 1776, 1811-1812, 1837, 1860-..., 1871, 1913, 1917, 1933, 1941, 1965, 1971... Royal jesters played bit parts seldom mentioned in US history texts.
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Queen Elizabeth II, Forbes Magazine Profile

Queen Elizabeth has been commemorating her 60th diamond Jubilee anniversary with parades, parties and by making peace throughout the realm. In June she shook hands with former IRA commander, Martin McGuinness during a visit to Northern Ireland that was seen as a symbol of significant easing of tensions in British-Irish relations. In lighter but similarly symbolic news the iconic clock tower of Britain's Parliament building--widely, though incorrectly called Big Ben--was renamed in her honor this summer. It will be known as Elizabeth Tower. FORBES estimates her personal net worth around $500 million but as a royal she's able to live well beyond her means--her main residence is valued at roughly $5 billion. HRH is on-track to becoming the longest reigning monarch in over 1,200 years of British history (her great-great-grandmother Queen Victoria reigned for 63 years and 216 days) in September, 2015.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Mr. Twain,

I am more intrigued than embarrassed of my ignorance. Can you please explain to me the significance of the dates: in 1776, 1811-1812, 1837, 1860-..., 1871, 1913, 1917, 1933, 1941, 1965, 1971...I am very curious!

I had thought it was strange to see Bush chumming up with Blair…almost like they were in the same government…was I on to something?

USA descent into "faith based" currency. Promises, promises...

1776 Declaration of Independence! We are sovereign. We shall create our own government. We shall select our own leader from within ourselves. The Hessians are coming! The Hessians are coming!

1811-1812. 1st National Bank ends. War of 1812 reportedly about anything other than the 1st National Bank (see: Crown). Washington DC sacked. Dolly Madison becomes our Heroine.

1837. President Andrew Jackson speaks to the American Banker Association (aka: Den of Vipers). Panic ensures. Banker panic of '37. National Debt nary a whisper.

1860-... A most uncivil war financed by English Crown & European banks. Presidents Abraham Lincoln & Robert E. Lee become heroes & villeins.

1871. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INCORPORATED in England (see: Crown).

1913. The Fed Reserve Act (see: Crown).

1917. WW I financed in USA (see: Crown).

1933. USA Gold spirited away to the Crown & European central banks (see: FD Roosevelt executive Orders 1933 & 1934).

1941. WW II financed in USA (see: Crown).

1965. Silver disappears from money J(see: monetary tokens).

1971. Gold certificate disappears from monetary system. President Nixon defaults on paper promises. The Fed eliminates path toward redemption & issues "faith based currency" (see: promissory notes).

"I am very curious!" - Bear... Me too!

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Happy New Year (((((Mark Twain)))))

You have been so much fun to read and to talk to this year! Thank you for commenting on my posts and your time and effort expended in answering my continual questions.

Thank you for filling in those dates for me. I know that took your time this New Year's Eve.

I hear Alexander Hamilton said debt was necessary to establish credit and was a main proponent of consolidated government and establishment of the first national bank. I've wondered if an agent of that Crown was on the scene at the Con Con?

Thank you my Literary Sailor Friend for your Work in Liberty!

Alexander Hamilton & Robert Morris were Monoploy Boyz.

Business partners, Alexander Hamilton & Robert Morris were key in signing up the young United States into bondage... Debt-money from the Crown in England.

Without completely reading or verifying details, here is one version of the seldom told facts. This version is fairly easy to read though it has its share of errors... The story line includes important players & their deeds. Script meant scrip. Many arguable subjects are raised; yet, in a few minutes, you may grasp threads of interest. Grazing... rather than scholarly study... may give you enough background to study characters of interest.

I take interest in personalities & adventures. If folks object to what I recall, I stare at them wide eyed. Let my critics see my innocence. "Oh, really?" I inquire. Let them regale in the the way they see it. I write their version as well.

The [US] American Revoluiton Pawns in the Game, Chapter 5. 1958 ©.

Thank you for your kind reply. Best to you in 2013.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Thank you for the read!

I enjoyed the easiness of the presentation! I have even finished chapter 5 and skipped to the end of the book to see what present dangers were discussed back in 1958.

I have no way of knowing truth from error. I have such a poor study of history. My husband has a degree in history. He pretty much sticks to the company line.

I am wondering, do you think Tom Woods has a valid grasp? I considered taking his courses earlier this (I mean last) year and have yet to do it. I am more interested in history than I have ever been as it seems to hold the keys to the present.

Also, do you think I am completely off base in pointing out that Patrick Henry was opposed to the US Constitution?

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Patrick Henry: A most eloquent, convincing writer & orator.

Patrick Henry longed for liberty... Not a Constitution creating yet another government. Henry convinced others to do right. I admire Patrick Henry for his writing.

You might thoroughly enjoy colorful presentations including art, relics & artifacts. Visit living museums. Then study what captivates you. Lewis & Clark diaries come to mind as some the the best known to man. Your public library has shelves of them. I especially enjoy the large colorful drawings of nature by Lewis. Any of your church members & family might be wonderful audience to follow along with your readings & story telling. With book in hand, asking for specific help, your family & friends will likely me more inclined to respond to your specific queries.

Tom Woods has an excellent grasp of historical facts & tells many a great story. To those that know what he is speaking about, he is quite persuasive with words. Most of us poor folk do not have his command of history to appreciate the fine distinctions he draws from it. His presentations are excellent. Best learn from Woods after you have a full appreciation of his mastery.

Ron Paul writes compelling material for you now. His message has many a call to action. His work is written to solve problems facing us now.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

My Dear Sir,

I too agree Mr. Henry was an eloquent writer and truly inspiring, but I was under the impression that Thomas Paine wrote "Common Sense" or I had even heard say that perhaps that Revolutionary Pamplet was Phantom writen by none other than Ben Franklin.

"Ron Paul writes compelling material for you now. His message has many a call to action. His work is written to solve problems facing us now."

Good Call, Mr. Twain, I ordered 2 of Dr. Pauls books and proceded to give them away to a Tea Partier from Colorado instead of reading them myself. I did read far enough into the introduction to read those famous words "Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies."
...the Tea Partier, well, he still says Dr. Paul's foreign policy is naive. I had hoped to sway him.

I have failed to busy myself politically here at the local level. Perhaps that and reading Dr. Paul is what I should busy myself with rather than looking to the past.

I do wonder from time to time if 2013/Fed Charter is why the Middle East is being riled up...it seems from reading chapter 5 of your suggested reading that Banksters are very good at force feeding.

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My memory switched patriot names momentarily.

I corrected my mistake before you responded. Glad no one seemed to mind.

Seems you are well on your way tending to your study. I hope your husband will be charmed.

Regards,

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Patriot Names

And I thought there was a secret I didn't know about - Always looking for those secret passage ways and buried treasures lol :)

I've been trying to get that man of mine to listen to Major Jordan's Diaries with me...I've thanked God for the DP, I might've lost my mind last year if I hadn't found some people out there with whom to share my crazy need to know.

He did gift me this Christmas with a little gold and silver though. I am afraid in my excitement I did a little boasting on that very popular Gold and Silver thread.

Hopefully I will exhibit gold from within, and not just without.

Nice talking to you this first day of 2013.

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To scrap the constitution

To scrap the constitution would mean to dissolve the federal government. The constitution is the only legal basis for it's existence. Just think, no more federal taxes or laws.

Like magic, they'd just go poof.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

No not by magic. If the

No not by magic. If the government announced that it would no longer recognize the constitution then I would expect a revolution. There are at least 1000 gun owners for every policeman. The chances of success don't look so bad to me. Also remember that members of the military are sworn to defend the constitution so many of them would be on our side.

What are you guys smoking...?

As if the Federal Express "government" would actually decide to dissolve itself. Although you are correct about the lawful basis... in real world application all this would to is sever the leash... the restraint on the Federal Express "government."

Even thought they never follow it themselves when politicians ever want to call another politician into question they always reference the constitution - WHY? Because they know it's the only document that is nearly impossible to change via an amendment when someone is proposing some insane new law.

Federal Government

There are many, including myself, who consider the Government an outlaw and a rogue because it does not follow the Constitution. It will be dissolved when enough people stand up and refuse to support it in any way. No more payment of taxes, no more voting for "them" and speaking out at every chance.

Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest. - Ben Franklin