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Judge: Obama doesn't have to publicly disclose justification for drone attacks

By Jonathan Stempel and Jennifer Saba
Reuters | Wed Jan 2, 2013

NEW YORK - A federal judge on Wednesday rejected The New York Times' bid to force the U.S. government to disclose more information about its targeted killing of people it believes have ties to terrorism, including American citizens.

U.S. District Judge Colleen McMahon in Manhattan said the Obama administration did not violate the law by refusing the Times' request for the legal justifications for targeted killings, a strategy the Times said was first contemplated by the Bush administration soon after the attacks of September 11, 2001.

McMahon appeared reluctant to rule as she did, noting in her decision that disclosure could help the public understand the "vast and seemingly ever-growing exercise in which we have been engaged for well over a decade, at great cost in lives, treasure, and (at least in the minds of some) personal liberty."

Nonetheless, she said the government was not obligated to turn over materials the Times had sought under the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), even though it had such materials in its possession.

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When your dealing with a

When your dealing with a trust some of the parties remain hidden by law.

I reserve the right to govern myself.

Mass murders have no justification. That's the problem

The NYT failed to make the a fight for rights. Bradley Manning, Those trapped in the Village of Guantanamo, Al-Awacki, Weaver, Koresh and all those children and thousands of others who have had their rights violated or their lives taken by government treachery.

NYT was hoping for this outcome?

Free includes debt-free!

Re: Mass murders have no justification.

It's cause they are crazy and you can't rationalize with crazy people. That's why, when you point out their faults, rather than saying "Thanks for correcting me," they start yelling at you to change/skirt the subject.

'Does madness come from evil or does evil come from madness?'

I think it's the later.

Stacy Keach in "The Last Configuration."

A highly recommend movie 2 C.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

i love that movie!

i love that movie!

lawrence

Yes,

an extremely well done analysis on the topic of good and evil.

I got the video.

Lucky me....

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Didn't Oblahblah

Tell us in 07 gov't would be transparent? In politics it's called flip-flopping. Let's call it what it is, LYING.

To my Liberal Trolls:
"Really Don't mind if you sit this one out. Your words but a whisper, your deafness a shout. I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
Ian Anderson 1972

oblahblah

perfect.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

Remember the ole 80's sayin.....

A "child" cannot lie.

A "child" never lies......

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

of course not.

spineless judge.
should have stayed with king george.
turns out americans LIKE to be ruled and it was much cheaper.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

NYT failed to make the proper case.

Carl Miller can help clear up the Time's confusion.

Free includes debt-free!

For a short amount of time

For a short amount of time (historically speaking) America was a nice place. Now it's just a ruin of it's former self. Give the leaders another 12-16 years and they'll successfully erase all memory of our Constitution.

Maybe if We stand idley by and do nothing...

like the majority of the Germans during the rise of Hitler.

The majority already stands

The majority already stands idly by and does nothing. It's hard to make change as a 'one-percenter'.

They don't understand

Most don't understand.

most people are nice.
most people can be trusted with a gun.

It's our job to share the truth.

Look at Occupy Wall street and the Banks in collusion with the police(F3I) to stop people from spreading the truth.

American was should stand for the truth no matter who says it.

How broken is it when they use the armed anything to shut down peaceful speech.

Congress is at 12% approval rating and how can you be a enforcers to hurt people that are just looking for fair for the country.

Congress passed the laws does anyone get that the system is very broken?

check this out
http://unitedrepublic.org/2013/new-california-transparency-l...

OV

Just want what seems to be missing, Truth and Justice for ALL
What is fraud except creating “value” from nothing and passing it off as something?

back ground

the drone strikes are more evil than people think.
Not only are they killing. they are helping the enemy. LINK TO WHY DRONE DON'T WORK

There is a good book on Iraq war. you know the one that was started on lies.
by Thomas E.Ricks called "The Gamble"

It about how what the military did in Iraq and how and why it didn't work.

Why its turned into a small civil war and will no doubt get worse.

Basically what happens is soldiers carry guns and where killing anything that looked like it could hurt them..Basically everything that moved.

What happens with the surge wasn't the surge but a change in plan, instead of killing the population, they stared protecting them.
Guess what when you invade a country and start killing the population you don't make friends. When you start protecting and treat them with respect they come over to your side.

But you don't hear in the news what really worked because you may have to quit spending yours and my S.S.I on bombs and tone down one of the biggest best and most effective killing machines of all time!

Just want what seems to be missing, Truth and Justice for ALL
What is fraud except creating “value” from nothing and passing it off as something?