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Propylene Glycol; prescribed by my Ophthalmologist

So I had a full eye exam yesterday including the dialation of my pupils. My vision had actually improved over the last 2-3 years which I can confidently attribute to my change in diet (Vegan) since two years ago and the products I consume. I went from 20/40 vision and wearing nighttime glasses and reading glasses to 20/20 or better with no prescription for any glasses or contacts or reading glasses. However, due to some dry eye issues I have dealt with for years, my Ophthalmologist recommended I use Systane, which includes as it's active ingredient Propylene Glycol @ roughly 6% (if I recall correctly).

Please check out the link I've provided for the Material Safety Data Sheet concerning Propylene Glycol and the direct information below regarding its other toxic effects on humans...I think I'll pass Doc!
This is just another example of our Healthcare system needing to be renamed Sickcare!

Special Remarks on other Toxic Effects on Humans:
Acute Potential Health Effects: Skin: May cause mild skin irritation. It may be absorbed through the skin and cause systemic
effects similar to those of ingestion. Eyes: May cause mild eye irritation with some immediate, transitory stinging, lacrimation,
blepharospasm, and mild transient conjunctival hyperemia. There is no residual discomfort or injury once it is washed
away. Inhalation: May cause respiratory tract irritation. Ingestion: It may cause gastrointestinal tract irritation. It may affect
behavior/central nervous system(CNS depression, general anesthetic, convulsions, seizures, somnolence, stupor, muscle
contraction or spasticity, coma), brain (changes in surface EEG), metabolism, blood (intravascular hemolysis, white blood
cells - decreased neutrophil function), respiration (respiratory stimulation, chronic pulmonary edema, cyanosis), cardiovascular
system(hypotension, bradycardia, arrhythmias, cardiac arrest), endocrine system (hypoglycemia), urinary system (kidneys),
and liver. Chronic Potential Health Effects: Skin: Prolonged or repeated skin contact may cause allergic contact dermatitis.
Ingestion: Prolonged or repeated ingestion may cause hyperglycemia and may affect behavior/CNS (symptoms similar to that
of acute ingestion). Inhalation: Prolonged or repeated inhalation may affect behavior/CNS (with symptoms similar to ingestion),
and spleen.

For those of you who have used other eye drops, you'll know that before they absorb into the eye there is drainage into the nasal cavities and then into the throat, where it becomes ingested (even if in small amounts), without much ability to reject the drainage at all.


Peace and Love first...but question everything!

I also have attached the link for another chemical compound found in the other eye drop prescribed for use (Refresh Optive)...see below.


***I was also asked if I wanted to take "Restasis"...not! Check out the MSDS on the main ingredient: Cyclosporine.


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got it

thank you greatly

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Right on.

Right on.

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LSD is best migraine treatment I know of.

Many of the vasoconstricting tryptamines are effective.

Big Pharma tried to produce and sell LSD. They called it DELYSID.

Might work for cluster

Might work for cluster headaches, but these are rare. Not likely to work on true Migraines..

Unfortuately, no research will occur because LSD is schedule I in the US.

It's the wrong answer for a cure anyway, it's treatment.

I've caused myself to have migraines for 6 months as I safely kill off the fungus infection that has plagued me for the past 45 years.

Nearly done, but only time will tell if that did the trick.

As of a couple of year ago Magnesium citrate or Magnesium hydroxide was the best I could come up with.

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Are you sure?

He might be low on antifreeze...

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There are two kinds of

There are two kinds of antifreeze. The dangerous one is ethylene glycol, not propylene glycol.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

It was a joke

You want either one in your eye, though?

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Not unless I need it.

I have used eye-drops. I do not need them now, luckily. When I needed them, I really needed them.(Complications from polycythemia vera.)

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

Glad you got the proper treatment

"Dry eye" eyedrops are a big scam-o-rama. I explained in detail why people's eyes get dry. Anyone here is welcome to go ask their favorite eyecare professional if my assessment is correct. They will agree all the way to the point where I say "then put quality oil in your mouth to improve the oil layer of your tears." They will insist it does not work, that can't be true, and yet...
I also suffered "dry eyes" for years. Got "punctal plugs" put in, it was free for me. They were silicone, I developed an allergic reaction and had to have them removed. I used the top of the line artificial tears, as much as I wanted - they were free for me. And it got so bad I had them cauterize one punctum closed, and I suffered with the other.
I retire, time rolls by, I get turned on to fish oil first- but the OP is vegan so I recommend flax or coconut, but the point is by putting quality fats in my diet my dry eye cleared up. It still flares up when I do not take in enough.
They pitch those drops as better than saline for the exact reason I say "eat oils" - because the problem is poor quality lipid layer. SO don't ask your doctor about eating the oils, just ask yourself that part. If these drops are just so skippy because they imitate oil, maybe real oil would be better, and perhaps that is a symptom that I am generally deficient in quality oils? (In fat-phobic America?)

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Sounds like a variant of

Sounds like a variant of Sjogren's syndrome.. which may respond well to a change in diet...


I take only Vitamin D3 5000 IU daily and Tincture Vitamin B-12 supplement and everything else I get from diet alone and "water". Thanks for the response! Take care.

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Soils are mineral deficient in trace minerals

It is hard to assure even in trace amounts.

This maps demonstrates"

Pick your own mineral!

Sea salt and great salt lake salt have all minerals in ionic form.
Kelp has minerals in colloidal form (preferred).

Perspiration, and High fiber diets carry minerals out of the system.

Each mineral comes with a list of diseases that can be cured by eating the mineral.

Copper for my graying hair, varicose veins and joint problems. Joints better, veins all smooth and hair getting darker. Who knew?

I eat well and take vitamins but without the mineral the vitamins couldn't do their jobs.

One more haircut and my wife's gray hair will be trimmed off and dark again. It's amazing. I feel like spreading the word. It was so easy and low cost.

Flax, borage or primrose oil on eyelids per Cricket's suggestion is certainly a safer way to start.

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I got micronutrient testing done

and found out I had really good levels of everything with a couple of things. I was seriously low in zinc and chromium. I took a bunch and it made a world of difference. People often overlook the metals and minerals.

Organic veggies usually have higher levels....smaller farms with better farming practices that return things to the soil? crop rotation? I don't really know why. I take a trace mineral supplement at least sporadically.

Ahhh, That''s the rub

The mineral in the soil may not have included some mineral. Here is Zinc.

Even if your the King of the Road traveling the country it is hard to get all the trace minerals.

Check out your favorite minerals here. Florida soil is missing just about everything.

However, men have been adding wood ashes to amend the soil forever. The first US Patent was for wood ashes which we sold to England.

Of course, wood ashes only contain the minerals that are in the soil they grow in. And they tend to end up in the runoff over time.

Seaweed has also been used as a soil amendment and contains 60+ minerals.

Diatomaceous earth from marine deposit also have 60+ minerals.

Some humic deposits have 60+ minerals. Fertilizers are made from this material.

Addig plant material and wood ashes will improve the soil. The humus feeds the microbes that digest rocks and clay for plants.

Perspiration and Elimination dump minerals every day. Replacement every day needed for optimum health.

Mineral deficiency leads to birth defects. Prenatal supplementation in livestock reduces birth defects to one in half a million. In human defects are currently running more that 1 in five thousand because of poor pre-natal nutrition.

Thanks for the great report. I am glad to hear that you have cured your mineral deficiencies!

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Paul, are you and your wife

Paul, are you and your wife taking the Ultimate Selenium to get the copper or are you taking another copper supplement?

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Hello Musicman

Not Selenium 90 yet. Finishing up bottle of Carlsen Super 2 Daily 2mg copper and another 11 minerals with vitamins and fish oil.

Started about 6 month ago.

I plan to switching to the vets pellets and potions. He's been formulating for human use for 30+ years. I don't mind expensive urine, it's cheap insurance. Getting the ratios right seems the efficient way to proceed.

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I'm with you. Doc's

I'm with you. Doc's teachings and supplements work and they work relatively quickly.

Check out nutritional Pharmacist Ben Fuch's radio show as well. Doc got me to the goal line, Ben took me over it...


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I got a bottle of Great Salt Lake concentrate in July

I had eaten a couple of boxes of seaweed 6 month earlier.

Within a week I knew that the minerals were the key. I am sure that I was not eating enough seaweed to meet my current need for healing.

I listened to a couple of Ben's youtubes last summer. Thanks for the link. I was thinking it was time to listen again. Always looking for clues here.


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Paul S is correct that vegans

Paul S is correct that vegans are famous for B12, amino acid and essential oil deficiencies.

Let's face it, klinker, the problem you are having with your eyes is proof that you are not getting everything you need from your current diet and supplementation. The eyes tend to be the "canary in the coal mine." Supplementing with a full spectrum nutritional product such as Beyond Tangy Tangerine and EFAs would likely do you a world of good.

Staying away from grains and grain products might do you a world of good as well, but I won't go there.

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Is Systane a trade name for

Is Systane a trade name for Peak or Prestone anti freeze?


I wonder if there is room for competition for this product? Ethelyn Glycol anyone?

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I'm not surprised

They are putting this crap in food.
Soda Pop, Baked Goods, Sausage, Ice Cream, Salad Dressing, Margarine, Fast Food and over the counter meds like Asprin.
The list goes on and on and on.......
Here is a list..

We eat that stuff all the

We eat that stuff all the time. It is in all sorts of foods you buy in the grocery store. Your diet gets rid of it. By the way, if you put cod liver oil on your eyelids at night (if it is pure it feels good in your eyes, too) before you go to bed, it will really help that condition, I am almost positive.