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Rand Paul: I'm thinking about a presidential bid

Sen. Rand Paul, heir to his father Rep. Ron Paul's political establishment and following, said Friday that he is thinking about running for president, declaring that only a "libertarian-Republican" can unite the GOP.

Speaking on "The Andrea Tantaros Show with Jason Mattera," which debuted this week, the Kentucky Republican said that while he hasn't ruled a presidential run in 2016 in or out, the GOP is going to have to turn to somebody like him to win enough voters to beat a Democrat.

"We are going to have to have somebody a little bit different than we've had in the past," he told Tantaros on the show that replaced the Laura Ingraham Show on the Talk Radio Network. "Someone who can appeal to people in New England and on the West Coast. Someone who has a little more of a libertarian-Republican approach, I think, would have a better chance with independents and moderates.

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ecorob's picture

DITTO!

say it again...for the trolls to hear!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

I will tell you this much:

I know for a FACT that Rand was directly responsible for convincing Ron Paul delegates in his state to back romney and not Ron.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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because he knew the RNC wouldn't allow it

Just as Ron Paul said when he entered the convention "they won't let you do that." even though it was their rules.

The GOP might just be desperate enough after 2014 to push a liberty candidate to the nomination.

Ron Paul compromised when he re-joined the Republican party and he has had a bigger influence and done great things because of that compromise.

Rand Paul's compromise with GOP leadership can also bring about great things.

It would't help if Ron Paul supporters united behind the mans son. Do you really think someone raised by Ron Paul doesn't listen to Ron Paul? I'll bet Ron is behind a bunch of Rand's move. I bet Ron regrets not compromising somewhere down the road. I also think Ron Paul regrets leaving the Republican Party and running Libertarian in 88 as that greatly hurt his influence in the GOP and minimally helped advance the cause of liberty.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

OldNo.7J.D.

You are why I have faith in this movement. As much as I hate what you say, it is truth, and that can not be ignored. Politics is dirty business, indeed. I hope that someday it will not be, and that each and every American will be able to vote accordingly.

"The GOP might just be desperate enough after 2014 to push a liberty candidate to the nomination."

It will not be easy, if possible.

"Ron Paul compromised when he re-joined the Republican party and he has had a bigger influence and done great things because of that compromise."

You have reminded me that this is not a perfect world. I typically do not like compromise, but at times it is necessary on this imperfect world. Had it not been for that move, r3VOLution would not be where it is today. Ron Paul, imo, is a visionary.

"Rand Paul's compromise with GOP leadership can also bring about great things."

He had better prove this right, and he has much work to do. Rand will not pull democrats to his side as his father did.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Wrong on all counts

And when you Endorsed Romney all of your father's Delegates lost all clout

What clout did they have, and how did Rand endorsing Romney cause them to lose it?

Your father should have been the one speaking at the Convention and not you.

So you were angry than Rand got to speak and not Ron, yea, all of us would have rather seen Ron up there...but how can you lay blame for that on Rand? Are you saying he should have turned down the offer of speaking, and given up a chance at popularizing himself with the Republican masses out of spite? Is that how we win?

wrong to support Romney as he was no where close to a Liberty candidate prior

You think Rand thought Romney was a liberty candidate? No, of course not, Rand endorsed him because it was politically expedient. We are involved in...politics - you know this, right?

It hurt the liberty movement profoundly

No it didn't, it only hurt the sentiment of some Paulites who didn't/don't understand why Rand did what he did.

you let us down just when we were winning it all.

Winning it all? Are you seriously that delusional? We were not winning. It was mathematically impossible for Ron Paul to win the nomination long before Rand endorsed Romney. Ron Paul's own campaign admitted this. It is not debatable, no amount of wishful thinking changes it. Just look at the facts. Shall I dust off the old delegate numbers one last time?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

You are the one that is Delusional

Ron Paul had enough states (prior to the RNC stripping Delegations and changing the rules at the last moment) to put his name into nomination which would have given the Liberty Movement a huge mainstream platform to work from when given a "Prime Time Speaking Spot". Also, remember that Ron Paul was at the very end of his active campaign drawing over 10,000 people in California of all places. That leverage would have led to not only Ron speaking at the Convention but Rand as well. See what I mean?

Rand sold out and in the process sold us all out when he endorsed Romney. I will say this, Rand is a Politician and not a Statesman. The last person our nation needs now as a President is another self serving politician. Rand has alot to atone for and he needs to apologize to those who worked so very hard on his father's campaign.

The timing was way off for the endorsement of Romney. Rand should have waited (held those cards to his chest) until shortly before or even during the Convention when the delegation numbers had been revealed and after his father lost the nomination but got the chance to give his pitch. That is Politics 401 and not 101.

Something I also remember vividly at the Convention. I never saw Rand Paul at the big party held at Whiskey Joe's for all of the Ron Paul Delegates. Very strange seeing that he is supposed to be the torchbearer of his father's legacy and the Liberty Movement according to people like you.

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Rand sold himself to the GOP

and they bought him and have embraced him because of it.

He stands up for battles he finds most important (like the NDAA) and compromises on votes that he cannot change or influence like Iran Sanctions.

Its a damn tough job to please us and GOP voters. The GOP outnumbers the liberty movement and others usually change their votes more easily than us so it's understandable that Rand would rather piss us off to keep the GOP on his side than piss GOP leadership off and lose any chance at being a viable and influential politician.

There are reasons that Ron Paul didn't get a hole lot done in congress. Just as it's hard to get upvotes without upvoting others, its hard to get laws passed without voting for other people's laws.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

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Ron Paul had enough states (prior to the RNC stripping Delegations and changing the rules at the last moment) to put his name into nomination

Yes, but...what has that got to do with Rand? How did Rand endorsing Romney prevent Ron from having his name placed into nomination?

Also, remember that Ron Paul was at the very end of his active campaign drawing over 10,000 people in California of all places. That leverage would have led to not only Ron speaking at the Convention but Rand as well. See what I mean?

No, because, this has nothing to do with Rand. You should be angry with the GOP leadership.

Rand sold out and in the process sold us all out when he endorsed Romney

It's been explained ad nauseum why Rand endorsed Romney, no he didn't sell out.

The timing was way off for the endorsement of Romney. Rand should have waited (held those cards to his chest) until shortly before or even during the Convention when the delegation numbers had been revealed and after his father lost the nomination but got the chance to give his pitch. That is Politics 401 and not 101.

The delegate numbers were known. It was a done deal. They were never going to give Ron a speaking slot if they could help it, regardless of anything Rand might have done. He played it right, he got something. If he had held out, and not endorsed Romney, everything would have played out exactly the same except that he would have gotten nothing. What did he get? He got more mainstream recognition, a valuable commodity if election-winning is anything we want to do anytime soon.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Rand's Convention Speech

Not impressed.

Me neither...

...but it wasn't for me and you, it was for the people who didn't vote for Ron.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

ecorob's picture

it wasn't for me or you?

"cherry picking" rand?

no, thanks!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

NowOrNever, I disagree.

Whether Ron and Rand discussed/planned this or not, here is my take:

Everybody who I tried to convince of Ron pointed fingers at me saying, even his own son didn't support him.

Everybody around me said, I told you so, Ron wasn't in it to win it, he was setting his son up for election.

Everybody around me called me, Ron Paul and r3VOLution, kooks, as Ron Pauls name was never mentioned once at rnc.

IMO, and in my experience, one NEVER quits before the finish line, whether you are winning OR losing. It is a statement. It is a sign of strength. It was/is a clear indication that this movement, this message, was/is in fact growing. Only then would others have listened, even with partial interest, which is a beginning for some.

I will NEVER change my mind about that. And as much as I admire and appreciate Ron Paul for everything that he has done for me, this movement, our Republic, I would tell him the same. You see, I have years on me. I was not born yesterday. I have succeeded because I fight to the end.

This movement is young. It is truth, but in many ways it is naive. You are bright, but you have much to learn.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I don't think I disagree with anything you said...

...I just don't see how anything Rand did or didn't do had any effect on how things played out. Nothing Rand did or didn't do was the cause of Ron being denied a role at the convention. On the other hand, if you're arguing that Ron is responsible, in that he decided not to push it all the way for the sake of Rand, well that's plausible. I don't know whether that's true or not, I suspect there's a least a grain of truth in it; and if it were true, I don't think I'd fault Ron for that. The last cavalry charge into the mouth of the guns is glorious but it doesn't achieve anything. Better to live and fight another day IMO.

Washington's strategic retreats did as much to win the Revolutionary War as his victories. ; )

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

I Love The Part About...

... Ron Paul's three top thinkers are Jewish. Kinda shut her up. LOL

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Sorry Rand

you forfeited the claim to be "heir to his fathers political establishment" when you and Benton sold us out.

There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

Thanks LL

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