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Flipping Off a Cop Is No Crime, Appeals Court Says

2006, Officer Richard Insogna of the St. Johnsville, New York, police department arrested John Swartz. Why? Because fuck you, that's why. No, really.

Swartz, a retired airline pilot, was passing through St. Johnsville in a car driven by his fiancée (now his wife) when he noticed Insogna using a radar gun to catch speeders. Angered by what he deemed a poor use of police resources, "Swartz expressed his displeasure at what the officer was doing by reaching his right arm outside the passenger side window and extending his middle finger over the car's roof," as the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit put it in a decision issued yesterday.

Insogna responded by following Swartz and his fiancée to their destination and ordering them back into their car when they got out. After he checked the driver's license and registration, there ensued a conversation, the details of which are a matter of dispute, that ended in Swartz's arrest for disorderly conduct, a charge that was ultimately dropped after dragging through the courts for several years. Swartz sued Insogna and Kevin Collins, an officer with the Montgomery County Sheriff's Department who participated in the arrest, for violating his Fourth Amendment rights. A federal judge dismissed the suit, concluding that Insogna's decision to pull the car over was justified and that the two officers reasonably believed the arrest was constitutional. The 2nd Circuit disagreed, highlighting the implausibility of Insogna's explanation for pursuing and detaining Swartz:

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I got pulled over...

I got pulled over by a Pinellas County (Florida) sheriff last month for flipping him the bird... but it was essentially an accident. He had been tailgating me for about a mile, and a couple lane changes, and had been so close on my bumper that I couldn't see that he was a cop in my rear-view. I was starting to get really pissed off that someone was tailgating me so hard, so finally after tapping my brake lights a couple times to no avail, I decided to extend my middle finger back at the tailgater... within seconds, his lights were on and he was pulling me over. He got out with his hand on his gun screaming and yelling at me. "You better watch who you're flipping off boy", I said, "I'm sorry, I thought you were following at an unsafe distance, I didn't realize you were a cop". He muttered something under his breath and stomped back to his car and sped off. I guess he knew there was nothing he could do legally, but wanted to give me a scare anyway.

I've Said it Before

I'll say it again, Goons, hired Goons.

skippy

About two years ago

my crazy girlfriend flipped off a cop and called him a "effin fascist pig". Cop charged her with disorderly conduct. She got a lawyer and beat the cop in court. The judge gave the cop a tounge lashing for writing her the ticket....says she was protected by free speech.

She lost.

She got hassled, took time off to see the lawyer, had to pay the lawyer, took more time off for the hearing, and then the trial date, maybe more.

The cop got paid for the whole experience. Ooooh. Tongue lashing.

The Chains of the Constitution don't hold any of them.

Just for fun, ask a cop how many times he's refused an order from a superior because it violated the civil liberties of a citizen.

Cops are ALL unprincipled or they could not be cops.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Hear hear, Citizendave!

Hear hear, Citizendave!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Everyone of them knows they deserve it.

Even when they are heroes that is what they are paid to do. And more than half are cowards absent the backup provided by their various violent police gangs.

When I see a cop I see a self-serving tax man who collects his salary from his ticket victims at the point of a gun.

Such a person can in no way be a hero. Hired thug, maybe.

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Good to know! ;)

Now I have something to do.

Good to know that what I do

Good to know that what I do to my Chief of Police every single time I see him isn't illegal! If more people did this maybe the psychopaths will try and get honest jobs.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Ya,

cuz every single cop out there is a dishonest psychopath!

*rolls eyes*

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

well, unless the so called "good" cops

are outing the bad ones, then they are at least complicit in the wrong doings of bad cops. I don't remember hearing much about cops busting cops.

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Not at all

But the few bad ones give the other 5% a bad name.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

Ignorant response! I was

Ignorant response!

I was referring to the ones I know are sick like the Chief of Police of my small town, not "every" cop. Lot's of them are power tripping sicko's though.

*sigh*

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

How was I supposed to know

exactly whom you were referring to?

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

Since you can type, I assumed

Since you can type, I assumed you could read!

Are you a cop, or a cop's wife? You seem awful butt hurt about anyone who disagrees with modern day Law Enforcement.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

When you are talking about cops,

and you say "the psycopaths", you have not indicated you were talking about a certain few that you know. Wasn't MY mistake, it was yours. I can read just fine.

Not butthurt either, just sick of annoying generalizations. It's so common on here. Every single post with a cop mentioned, good or bad is followed by a slew of cop hating posts. I respect each cop I meet until I am given a reason not too. It's called common courtesy. I do the same thing with doctors even though I've met some who were ego driven and could care less about their patient, I don't label them all or try to put them in a box. Read the rest of the comments on here and to follow. Nothing but prejudice, and hate. Not my bag.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

Good luck with that automatic

Good luck with that automatic respect thing!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

And good luck

spreading the liberty message to people we NEED on our side.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

You have no idea who you are

You have no idea who you are talking to and what I have done to educate LEO's. Generalize much?

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

People are forced to pay a

People are forced to pay a cops salary under threat of violence = dishonest job.

Cops spend most of their time harming people that have harmed no one = sounds like a psychopath(and a criminal) to me.

Maybe if cops don't want to be looked at as just useless overpaid criminals they could just stick to the one and only job they are needed for in a free society: To apprehend and individual that has infringed upon another individuals life liberty or property. I can literally think of no other use for cops.

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Cops spend most of their time harming people that have harmed no one = sounds like a psychopath(and a criminal) to me.

Would you like to add some more ignorant generalizations?

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

Well I know for a fact in my

Well I know for a fact in my county, on average, 8 of 10 arrests are for individuals that have harmed no one, thanks to public arrest records posted online.

What are the stats for your county?