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Do not be misled again.

Rand Paul NEVER endorsed anyone but HIS FATHER.
His father came out in an email ending his presidential bid, and Rand came out 6 hours later and 4 days before the Texas convention- "supporting" Romney.
Rand has never endorsed anyone for president except his father and I challenge anyone who claims different.

There are ones here who seek to bring our entire system down and divide the Ron Paul R3VOLution.
They post things about banning guns.
They post favorable threads about Rand Paul, knowing they turned on his father by committing to "Paulfest" just a week before the GOP convention.
Ron Paul could not turn his back on "Paulfest" fast enough.
He knew its true intention to mislead the liberals that followed him- and drag them to another camp. (One week before the GOP convention)
Ron gave marching orders and told everyone to sign wave and welcome the delegates. He instructed us to g to his sunshine rally.
NEVER once did he say to go to GJFEST.
After he learned of the fast one the liberals pulled by making another rally in his name, he turned his back and created his own- knowing GJfest was designed to split and divide.
GJfest lied about ticket sales and attendance.
Others here were on board WELL before Paul ended his bid and joined together to try and make GJfest the end all.
Paul put together his own sunshine rally on a minutes notice and asked all his supporters to attend. Some did but most did not.

Now the same thing is happening with Rand.
There are liberals here who seek to bring him down by acting like they support him just like they did to his father- which they loathe the fact Ron and Rand are CONSERVATIVE, constitutional Republicans.
The libs are now referring to the movement as the "liberty" movement.
Rand and Ron are TEA PARTIERS. Tea parties are alive and well and are small and local.
Trust our local tea parties, they have the TRUTHFUL answers- and are made up of Americans from ALL walks who come together under the banner of FREEDOM and the Constitution.
Don't fall for the hype and open your eyes.
Rand is a threat to liberals on abortion, and many other things libs hold dear.
EPA regulations, green energy and so much more, JUST LIKE HIS FATHER WAS.
Don't believe the hype here- they seek to bring Rand down just like they did his father. Ron saw this and ended his bid.
Just after of which he brought the house DOWN at the Texas Republican convention where Romney NEVER showed his face and when Romneys name was only mentioned one time at the beginning by KBH, the BOO's for Romney were heard from BLOCKS away. His name was NEVER mentioned again for all THREE DAYS!

Ron could have gone up against the felony committing GOP/Romney camp- where he lost is when the libs divided his movement a week before the GOP convention in Fla.
That is what ended his move for president and nothing more.

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Only thing that was proven

Only thing that was proven below is that semantics aren't your strongest ally.

I won't play your little game.

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no one asked you to.
and this CERTAINLY is no GAME.
It is more serious then you know.

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and another thing.
I hope this thread gets down voted below sea level.
that means the ones who it was meant for have read it.
hows them apples?
Ive studied with and have learned from the best and the master in
politics and i took my free education from him and have put it to use.

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Make that 3.

Make that 3 votes down that I gave you so far.

And no. You did not 'reach' me.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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I never said reach spinner.
I said READ.
Can you read?
You read it right?
Thanks.

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I did not imply that you said 'reach'. It was my intent to emphasize that I do not agree with you.

Hang in there, 1777free4all. Questions are important, no matter how much they remind me of what happened prior and up to Tampa. Politics is a dangerous sport, one must read between the lines. Though I do my best to speak the truth, very few tell it like it is.

Spinner, huh? lol.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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no youre right. you didnt imply.
you WROTE it.

yes.
spin much?

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I will not be misled again.

I will not be misled again. lol

Well, have fun with words, 1777free4all. Someday you may learn that 'the less said, the better'. And no, I am not implying that you implied or said it because I enclosed it in quotes.

This thread did turn out to be a great stress reliever. Thanks!

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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Thank You and youre welcome.

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I think you're a rude prick

I think you're a rude prick that is just posting for division.

Where's that block feature again?

You are the one here trolling

You are the one here trolling him and being an asshat. It's his topic. Your perspective is completely warped.

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I guess I would be called that by some.
But not the ones who matter most to me.
so thanks.
and others here know me and know I have been biting my tongue.
so now you can imagine what I could have said but dont.
Imagine it when in the shower so you can FEEL it.

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Agree

Though I missed the memo where Ron Paul ended his campaign, Rand's timing was horrendous in his endorsement of Romney. The Paulfest was the ultimate in bait and switch, IMO, and did nothing for any kind of unification of the Ron Paul movement. GJ who said he wouldn't campaign at the Paulfest turned it into his own campaign event, just one of the many reasons to not trust him.

As far as Rand goes, so far I like what I see. He isn't perfect, but then who is, but he sure is doing right by us in the Senate from what I can tell. At this point, he's the best we have in the Senate and is doing his damndest to run interference on our behalf.

With that said, I'd vote for Rand should he decide to actually run. Sadly, his candidacy will get nowhere if we can't figure out how to have an honest election!!!

Blessings )o(

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ron ended his campaign in an email to us at 11am, tuesday.
rand threw his support behind romney at 5pm that same day.
It was coordinated and ron all ready ended his bid but supporters like me did not take that as being real.
the campaigning still coninued but ron told us he ended his bid and this was before GJfest.

and it WAS the biggest bait and switch in political history, and it was planned.
a majority of the paul flock fell for it- but to many here they knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
LL plans on doing this to rand as well.
wont happen.
It only takes one to catch wind.
and Ive got that canadians number, and have since I read its first 4 or 5 posts back in the day- around 06(late).
notice the threads it makes- and doesnt comment on.
then notice the ones it does comment on.
There is about to be a rude awakening here- if I have anything to say about it.

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paulfest lied all along claiming dr. paul was with the program and he would speak. Then recanted 2 weeks before paulfest claiming "they thought he was with it" when he never told them so nor gave them permission to use his name.
then they went on to lie about ticket sales before and after the fraud.
they also lied about attendance to everyone.
there is something wrong with that.
]but agreed there is nothing wrong with rand.
"we are in a new era". ron paul 2001

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PaulFest never said Ron would

PaulFest never said Ron would be speaking. They made it clear from the beginning that he would not. They were saying they had his "support" -- as in he was not opposed to the event going on, as a lot of people viewed it (as they will just about anything) as somehow being an evil operation though they had no evidence, just hunches.

I don't understand why you all go on these witch hunts. I really think if you're ready to get out your pitchfork you need to think longer and harder about what liberty even means.

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youre right.
They misled even further by saying "we hope to have him speak but he hasnt given us an answer". and repeated that even past the time he did answer.

witch hunts?
I simply said rand never endorsed romney and went into other things.
Paulfest was where part of the movement left ron paul

Paulfest said they have full support from ron paul.
what else could he do when half his flock was there?
Ron would never say "dont go"
instead he would create another rally and tell folks to go there just like he did. he was never asked as implied and he never agreed as implied.

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Are you fucking kidding me?!

Are you fucking kidding me?! How the hell is that misleading? Why would they think anything else? Of course they want him to speak. And they were honest and straightforward about him not giving them an answer. HOW IN THE HELL can this POSSIBLY be construed as misleading?

You are an absolute dumbass. If I hadn't already lost all hope in humanity or any chance whatsoever of ever seeing this world change for the better, I would despair now.

Makes sense that Wayne Paul did not listen to his brother.

Or, this story is not the final word but Jesse Benton is still a rat fink.

Jesse and John were worried with good cause. We are the grassroots that are making a noise in Iowa and Missouri and from shore to shining shore.

BTW, Wayne says that he is more conservative than his older brother. He's not afraid to leave people free even if they are wrong headed.

Free includes debt-free!

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agreed jesse benton appears to be a fat fink by actions.
but i fail to believe dr. paul was naive enough to hire him as his campaign mgr and did not know.
Maybe Paul had a Peter "when the cock crows, thrice you will have betrayed me" thing going on, or whatever.

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For what it's worth...

As much as I like Ron Paul, I do share your sentiments here with regard to the matter of Jesse Benton.

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unfortunately I do not have those sentiments.
never did.
I believe benton is a plant and the GOP grabbed on to the plant because they have nothing left to grab onto. They want to win.
Plus hes considered cute and McConell likes/swings that.
I think Paul is too smart for them and now has an insider inside the inside.
But I can see- what most think.
I dont agree but ron has done this before.
One only has to look closer.
ron is sneaky and a mizer, in the most honest and truthful way possible. Key word POSSIBLE.
Im glad its for the constitution and liberty because if it werent-
we would be in much much more trouble then anyone could imagine even now.

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"Support" is the definition of "endorse".

Not taking a stand for or against Rand here, but I'm not sure why you are trying to make some kind of distinction between "support" and "endorse" like they mean something altogether different, when they are essentially the same thing.

Definition of ENDORSE
2a: to approve openly ; especially: to express support or approval of publicly and definitely
(bold emphasis mine)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/endorse?show=0&t=1...

en·dorse
/enˈdôrs/
Verb
1.Declare one's public approval or support of.
2.Recommend (a product) in an advertisement.
(bold emphasis mine)
http://www.google.com/search?q=endorse+definition&rls=com.mi...

Main Entry: endorse  [en-dawrs]
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: support, authorize
(bold emphasis mine)
http://thesaurus.com/browse/endorse

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nice spin.
you can be exhibit B of spin. ecolib is all ready A.
fact still remains rand did not "endorse" romney.
he said he "supports". no need for "endorse" word meaning, it was not used by rand concerning romney.
rand never used the word for romney- but did for his father, but nice try.
whats needed is meaning of word "support"
no where does the word "support" meaning, include the word endorse.
nice spin though.
notice the first definition.

support
: to endure bravely or quietly : bear
2
a (1) : to promote the interests or cause of (2) : to uphold or defend as valid or right : advocate (3) : to argue or vote for
b (1) : assist, help (2) : to act with (a star actor) (3) : to bid in bridge so as to show support for
c : to provide with substantiation : corroborate
3
a : to pay the costs of : maintain
b : to provide a basis for the existence or subsistence of
4
a : to hold up or serve as a foundation or prop for
b : to maintain (a price) at a desired level by purchases or loans; also : to maintain the price of by purchases or loans
5
: to keep from fainting, yielding, or losing courage : comfort
6
: to keep (something) going

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Spin? No, it was a definition. But since you asked...

Definition of SUPPORT
2a (1): to promote the interests or cause of (2): to uphold or defend as valid or right : advocate (3): to argue or vote for

b (1): assist, help (2): to act with (a star actor) (3): to bid in bridge so as to show support for

Synonyms: advocate, back, champion, endorse (also indorse), patronize, plump (for), plunk (for) or plonk (for), go in for, go to bat for, hold a brief for, stand up for, stick up for, foot the bill (for), take care of
(bold emphasis mine)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/support

The words "support" and "endorse" are SYNONYMS. It really makes no difference which of the two words Rand used. They mean essentially the same thing.

You are trying to make a distinction here that is simply not valid.

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there you go AGAIN!
Rand MADE the distinction, by not using endorse! Not me!lol
great, great try though!

nice spin. and awesome try with synonyms!!!lol
rand speaks in "synonym tongue" now! oh youre rich!
but the fact still remains rand never used the word endorse no matter how many times you say he did.
However he did use the word for his father.
synonyms, im sure rand was not thinking about.
the definition of support is what was in his head.
support
: to endure bravely or quietly : bear
merriam webster.
nice try.
how many times do I have to spank you in front of every one?

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"how many times do I have to spank you in front of every one?"

Try spanking me.

This is what I heard: Rand, Ron's own son, is behind romney. romney will be an outstanding president. We must all get behind him and defeat obama! anyonebutobama!

So, the republicans, the sleeping masses, learned NOTHING. In fact, Rand somewhat perpetuated people believing that romney was somebody to really get behind. That alone HUGELY diminished my efforts of spreading our message of Liberty, Freedom, truth and integrity. They were finished listening to me speak about Ron, the Constitution.

Now, there's YOUR spanking.

I voted you down. Grrrrr.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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No the spanking is in the fact you did not use the word "endorse" in what you just wrote.
Because he didnt and that is my entire point.
Thanks for unknowingly making it.
AGAIN!
BWAAAAAAhahahahhahahaha!!!

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I hope that someday

I hope that someday you will embrace responsible actions and being focused. If/when you do, you may become a tremendous asset.

Keep on keeping on, 1777free4all, you'll get there :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul