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Rand's First Visit To Israel - What is he doing?

I suspect his son was arrested when he was to remind Rand that "We can get to your family." Here was Rand's response:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congress/in-first-vis...

OK, Senator Paul. Truce. I will stop writing you off and give you some time to prove yourself. But stop acting like you don't need the grassroots when Romney (who had the full support of GOP "faithful") lost without us.



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Don't worry he's just reading Bibi the riot act

There will be a new prezdent in town in 2016 and you are looking at him. So now is the time to start behaving. I can be a nice president or I can be an asshole. Take your pick.

Release the Sandy Hook video.

Duh! He is pandering and

Duh! He is pandering and proving he isn't "anti-Semitic.". He just lost my vote!

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We need a bill banning all foreign travel by our "elected"

Until the deficit has been resolved.

We don't need to travel to Israel or anywhere for that matter. Anytime I see a politician take this trip, in the next election they get PROPPED UP.

Rand is no Ron and keeps seeming more like a benton each and every day.

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whose son was arrested?

I missed that--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

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I have ZERO say over my son's actions. So why this assinine

Statement!

Semper Fi my Friend!

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

I don't think you understand--

fishyculture implied that someone's son was arrested; I asked whose son--

This isn't about having any 'control' over a 'child's' choices--

this is about a threat to the Pauls--

I'm trying to connect the dots and not having much success--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

All He Did...

... was tell the Israelis what he has been telling the folks in the senate since 2010. We cannot give foreign aid to you when we are borrowing it from another country. I am curious to see how he is going to address the palestinians (not). He is going to tell them the same thing. We cannot give foreign aid to you when we are borrowing it from another country. Kinda simple if you ask me.

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Oh Great Rand His Highness and Plenipotentiary

Who appointed him the diplomatic role of conducting official dialogues between nation-states? I am not saying he is but you are viper.

Rand is absolutely nothing like his father. I just wish Ron Paul supporters would not be so easily had.

I Said Nothing About Rand...

... "conducting official dialogues between nation-states". I just said how he was unashamed to tell them he wasn't gonna give them foreign aid.

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did i miss something?

didn't he say israel would be the last on the list, and even then in increments, and that he didn't expect to see it in his lifetime?

in other words blowing smoke..

israel and US policy makers know this is phony baloney talk, and so does rand.

He Said That He Wanted To Stop Foriegn Aid...

... but we know that can't happen so he will propose them gradually, starting with our obvious enemies then down to our closest allies.

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From Today's AP News

'Israel gets about $3 billion a year in military aid from the U.S.

Paul insisted Washington should first cut aid to countries with strained ties to America, such as Pakistan and Egypt, and only later wean Israel off aid. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has previously stated he was interested in doing that.

Paul said the aid, used in large part by Israel and Egypt to buy U.S. weapons, was creating an arms race in the Middle East that could ultimately harm Israel, not help it.

"I'm concerned that some of the weaponry that we are currently giving to Egypt may one day be used against Israel," he said.

Most American military assistance to Israel must be spent on U.S.-made equipment, providing a boost to the military industry there.

Paul suggested Israel would actually benefit from less aid, saying it would enhance its sovereignty by not having to approach the U.S. "on bended knee" when making its own decisions.

"I don't think you need to call me on the phone to ask permission for what you want to do to stop missiles from raining down on you from Gaza," he said.'

missiles raining down?

how about shitty home made rockets that half the time don't explode. and israel's weaponry? state of the arts for sure.

does he mention the settlements?

"call me?"

wait a minute. he already sees himself in the white house!
well, we see who received the ego overload in the paul family

You're kidding...

...this is what caused you to stop writing off Rand Paul? This convinced you, but his Senate record, for instance, wasn't enough?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

No, it was not enough.

I expected Rand to take the fight to a new level, and instead all indications have been that he was backing off.
There is a basic difference between me and pretty much all Rand backers. I do not consider the corporate US government to be legitimate at all. I do not believe an illegitimate political process can be saved, it must be replaced. I will never "support" Rand the way I supported Ron, but that is about MY understanding of sovereignty, not about either man. The BEST Rand can hope for from me is a begrudging vote, it would be a HUGE compromise of my principles to participate in an election in this country. The thing is, it is NOT JUST ME. There is a large and growing segment of liberty lovers who want nothing more to do with politics, have come to understand that it is antithetical to liberty. Rand needs us more than we need him.

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Fishyculture, I spotted your post here and had to ask

I posted this over the weekend and thought it was fascinating, thought you may find it interesting. An aquaponic system integrating duckweed, producing 1 1/2 metric tons of fish per year.
http://www.dailypaul.com/268699/weekend-watching-integrated-...

duckweed

is what we grow for tilapia food. That, vegetation scraps, a hard boiled egg now and then, it is self contained. The "zero input" aspect is why I am an AP enthusiast. If we ever screw up this planet so badly that we literally have to go underground or live in biodomes (are we there already and too numb to notice?) having an AP system is THE key to eating well.
You can grow wheat in them if you want.
Thanks for the link - will save it to watch with my husband tonight.

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" political process can[not] be saved, it must be replaced"

...how do you propose it be replaced?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

agorism

I don't really propose it, I am doing my best to live it. DIY liberty. Give me liberty or I'll get up and get it myself.
Please, carry on picking which form of tyrant you find most appealing, pay no attention to the woman on the farm.

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That's what I figured...

...good luck with that, I'll stick to politics.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Good luck with that

and I mean it. If the rights described in the Constitution were restored, I would be very pleased. I would even help to a degree, but I still believe there is a "higher calling" for humanity, and it is self-governance. I tried politics, gave it my all. What I learned convinced me that I needed to get self reliant, and if I don't want a gun battle I'd better be ready to feed people and turn them into farmers on the spot. Of course that won't work with police or crooks, but with the "starving hoards" it will.

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what truce..

you've been waging a 1 person battle against the paul family inside your own head without them even knowing your existence..

That was deeply insightful.

I mean, "inciteful."
I don't even have to ask what you have done to know I did more for the campaign than you, and I assure you, Dr. Paul knows I exist. All that aside, my loyalty is to no man, it is to truth. And to that end, I will point out that by saying "Truce" to RAND Paul, I am acknowledging that I have not trusted him. Now I am leaving room for him to win my support, because if he wins my support he will win the support of others who think like I do. Who thinks like I do? A WHOLE LOT of grassroots activists. He does not need me, but he needs us.

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Why the intrigue?

"A member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Paul is scheduled to meet with Netanyahu, President Shimon Peres and other Israeli leaders before heading off for meetings in Jordan and the Palestinian Authority."

Seems like he's just doing his job and I, for one, am glad he sees foreign aid the same way we Patriots do. Oh wait... he IS one of us, only he has a far better position from which to work at restoring America than we do.

Have to agree with the comment below. There was no reason whatsoever to drag his son into this story. The real story is in the article and has nothing to do with his son. There is enough spin in the media. We don't need it here, too.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
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Because I am not media, I am a poster on a political forum.

I get to express my opinion.

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Fine. By all means, do express your opinion.

But, please have the sense to post your opinion without the spin. It is not your opinion to which I object. Who knows? You could be on to something. But, to tie it to a specific article which has nothing whatsoever to do with that opinion, is spin. That's not the way to have your opinion taken seriously.

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My suspicion

included the suspicion that they are related. How about this. You post what you want, I'll post what I want? Feel free to up vote and down vote at will, comment, ask questions, or to even just ignore my posts.

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