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sharkhearted's picture

Yeah but he could have been more like Ron Paul.

The very IMPORTANT points about Operation Gladio and the Gulf of Tonkin Incident among many others...were lost in the COLLATERAL DAMAGE of his psychotic tirade.

If you think...for one moment...that his outbursts helped the liberty movement or the 9-11 Truth movement...then you are living in la la land.

Granted, it is because of you and others like you that I pulled my post because of the vicious downvotes.

But please remember...in the end don't shoot your own...you may need the rest of us...at some point in the future.

Here is a new site I just launched last week. You sound like a concerned citizen. If you are interested, please sign up.

www.911crimes.org

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Chris, We're all on the same

Chris,

We're all on the same team bro...I've seen you posting around here and agree with you most of the time. We're cool.

to your point...

"But please remember...in the end don't shoot your own...you may need the rest of us...at some point in the future".

People need to remember that about AJ as well. You're complaining about AJ...but then are defensive when people are down on you here.

AJ is a monster in the liberty movement. He has awakened a MULTITUDE of people. He's earned my respect...no matter how crazy he may get at times.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

sharkhearted's picture

Yeah, agreed. But Alex J is not above criticism.

His rant tonight...was the equivalent of Hitler's rant.

He completely broke the BRO CODE and not only overpowered Piers Morgan...but then began to mock him, in a mock British accent.

And yeah, it is all kind of disturbingly funny in a Family Guy way...but at some point it just becomes...UNCIVIL.

Doen't matter. Go back and watch the interview. AJ makes a complete FOOL of himself.

I understand his rage against the NWO and I share it...he could have been SOOO more effective as being under control and just explaining the false flag crimes of Operation Gladio and Gulf of Tonkin...as opposed to just throwing out EMO bombs like he did.

He completely failed (F minus) in this interview...and no back channeler deconstructionist will emerge unscathed saying that he did not (fail).

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

sharkhearted's picture

Why the down votes? Is anyone not actually READing the article?

Seriously.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

because people don't agree

because people don't agree with you.

While you were busy 'apologizing' to Piers, I was loading a few Pmags and cleaning my Smith & Wesson.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

sharkhearted's picture

You DUMBASS - Did you not even READ my post??

I told Piers Morgan verbatim...that at the end of the day "WE WILL NOT GIVE UP OUR GUNS."

What part of that can you not understand?

Do you even know who John Locke is? And how he is the diametric opposite of Thomas Hobbes?

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

really bro? after

really bro?

after saying...

"But please remember...in the end don't shoot your own...you may need the rest of us...at some point in the future".

then, you go around calling others 'dumbass'...and you want respect yourself?

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

sharkhearted's picture

Don't take me out of context.

I KNOW what I said. And I made the dumbass comment after you herded me into something I did NOT day.

I made it CLEAR to Piers, that, even though Alex was a complete IDIOT tonight,....

..we will NOT give up our guns.

And again...you don't even TRY to acknowledge the crucial differences between Thomas Hobbes and John Locke and how it was the radical ideas of Locke that gave birth to our republic.

Seriously? You can't event acknowledge that intellectual exercise? Let's see it??

January 7, 2013

TO: Mr. Piers Morgan

RE: Alex Jones, the Second Amendment, Mental Instability, and Misinformation

Mr. Morgan,

I was so excited to have a chance for Alex to school someone over mainstream media airwaves about the NWO and the Second Amendment...and other items but he BLEW it. Following is what I sent my blog subscribers after I mistakenly told them to tune in to that disaster of an interview.

By the way, you won that debate fair and square by being a gentleman and I am personally sorry, as an American, that Alex turned the “interview” into an insulting rant.

Here is what I sent to my subscribers:

“For any of you who had to endure that painful outburst and tirade of the obviously mentally unstable Alex Jones against Piers Morgan on his own show, based upon my recommendation to watch it, I apologize.

Alex Jones lost it, and blew his opportunity to make some interesting points not normally heard in the mainstream, state-run media like CNN...by throwing a tantrum and a rant like a 5 year old.

It was disgusting...and he really hurt the Liberty Movement by his outburst...and also really, REALLY hurt the cause of defending the Second Amendment...for the rest of us.

My next step is to email Piers Morgan and explain to him, apologetically, that, “yes, I did sign the petition to deport him...but by the end of the ‘interview’, I would rather deport Alex Jones...and that most of us ardent defenders of the Second Amendment, with NO infringements whatsoever are...gentlemen and women. Not seething madmen like Alex.”

Mr. Morgan, we will have to agree to disagree on this idea of gun control because a GREAT majority of the Founders of this country were NOT fans of Enlightenment thinker Thomas Hobbes, who defended natural rights but thought the power to protect them should be concentrated in the
“Sovereign” (the government).

Most Establishmentarians advocating “gun control” today, just like most in the mainstream media and most in the single-party political system of the USA (There is no substantial difference between the Democrats and the Republicans…all are statists.) who are so quick to trust their government (as if governments and authorities should ever be trusted), to have a monopoly of FORCE…very much like the views of Thomas Hobbes.

No. That is why the Second Amendment was created. The Founders of this country acknowledged that tyranny comes easy and were wholly and rightfully and completely MISTRUSTFUL of government power.

Instead, the Founders OVERWHELMINGLY sided with another, and more prescient Enlightenment thinker, classical liberal, and defender of natural rights, John Locke, who believed that every man (and woman) was “the Sovereign” and that each INDIVIDUAL had the natural right to defend their own life, liberty, property, etc….and that authority came from the bottom up…not from the top down.

THAT is the issue here.

Alex Jones, in his unforgivable tantrum, did throw out some false-flag truth bombs such as “Operation Gladio” and the “Gulf of Tonkin Incident”, but he made it harder for us to make our case, because of his uncivil rant and delivery.

We are not violent. We only think guns should be used as a last resort.

But we ALSO know that the false flag events such as mentioned above…sometimes extend to these unexplainable anomalies of Aurora and Sandy Hook that seem to be staged by the same government that caused terrorism and the horrific loss of life, on a world scale, such as lying about the North Vietnamese firing upon us, when it never happened….yet 3 million dead Vietnamese later and 58,000 American dead troops later…that those same false flag operations could not be conducted closer to home and on a smaller scale, for the purpose of disarming the Americans from the eventual planned takeover of the NWO.

They will fail…and freedom will be restored.

Even though I signed the petition (to make a statement) I am defending YOU for being a gentleman against a foaming at the mouth madman.

Alex means well. I am sure you do too.

I hope that my explanation of the Lockean approach to defense (and of the Second Amendment)…as opposed to the statist Hobbesean approach is well established by now, and how, (I can’t help agreeing with Alex) we will NOT give up our guns.

Thank you for your time. And thanks for taking the high road on your show this evening. I am sorry the other party, did not.

Sincerely,

Christopher M
Norfolk, VA
January 7, 2013

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Are we still even talking

Are we still even talking about this? You deleted your original post because you were getting killed with negative comments and nobody agreeing with you. Learn to deal with criticism and let it go.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

While your writing skills are to be commended,

the content is not.

morgan doesn't give a rats about your rights or mine. He will use your letter to his advantage.

sharkhearted, I believe that you mean well. But there is a time and a place for everything. Right now, we mean business. And if I am out of line in saying we, then I will revert to I.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

naw...you're good on that

naw...you're good on that 'we' part.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

sharkhearted's picture

LOOK AT THE CONTENT about LOCKE

Do you not understand I basically told Piers off about that.

Nothing...and I mean NOTHING...can excused Alex Jones' psychotic episode tonight.

I mean business too...and I say at the end...(agreeing with Alex) that we will NOT GIVE UP OUR GUNS.

Can you not read?

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

I read your post twice.

But in this case, I will agree to disagree.

You are still good by my book :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

sharkhearted's picture

Where? Where are you disagreeing?

Would you rather support Hobbes...who believed all the power of force is concentrated in the government??

Where are you disagreeing?

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Sharkhearted

Alex did not use our name. Therefore, it is not necessary or prudent to apologize 'for him' or otherwise.

Liberty, Freedom, one must stand on his own, and that includes the use of words.

Whether I personally would have used those words, or not, Alex vented, and on my behalf that vent felt good. He made it clear that this is serious business, using his own personality to do so. morgan knew well in advance how Alex may have acted/reacted. It was morgans decision to have Alex on or not.

Honestly, I do understand where you are coming from. But I personally feel that this is not the time or the place for apologies, especially on somebody elses behalf, who also stands for Liberty.

It is your decision whether to send the letter or not. You must do what your own heart tells you to do :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

sharkhearted's picture

I DEFINITELY will send it to him

And YES I do STAND BESIDE my apology to Piers for alex's mania.

It's an honor thing.

Alex Jones made a PATHETIC, EMO, AGGRESSIVE response...and he could have won it IF HE HAD TAKEN the more chivalrous Ron Paul approach of WINNING WITH CONTENT....NOT WITH FORCE.

Go ahead...vote this down.

But by down voting...you will have no become what you disagree with...which is ever EVER NEVER taking advantage of the NON-AGRESSION PRINCIPLE.

Alex Jones VIOLATED that (and in a really lame, primate way) that tonight on CNN.

Want to give the Globalists fodder to come after us and our guns?? Just let them watch a few minutes of this reprehensible and revolting "interview."

The Illuminati won on this one...and we need to be more smart and incisive in our interviews and accusations...rather than rely upon the blunt club-like intstrument of AJ in an international interview WHICH WILL BE USED AGAINST US!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

piers would chew you up and

spit you out like used gum.

don't be so naive.

sharkhearted's picture

Did you actually READ the article?

I apologized for AJ's mania...but I TOLD Piers in no way shape or form, that we would not give up our guns.

Do you understand the important difference between the predominant statist Hobbsean view that most of the Establishment embrace today (Hobbes would advocated gun control) and the Lockean view that Founders were so vehement on (and I too).

Or are you just downvoting without READING?

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

no he wouldn't

no he wouldn't