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NY Governor Cuomo To Push for New Gun Bans

New York Times: ALBANY — Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, pushing New York to become the first state to enact major new gun laws in the wake of the massacre in Newtown, Conn., plans on Wednesday to propose one of the country’s most restrictive bans on assault weapons.

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New York is one of seven states that already ban at least some assault weapons. But Mr. Cuomo has described the existing law as having “more holes than Swiss cheese,” and he wants to broaden the number of guns and magazines covered by the law while also making it harder for gun makers to tweak their products to get around the ban.

Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, will outline his proposal in his State of the State address, but even before he speaks, he has incited anxiety among gun owners by acknowledging in a radio interview that “confiscation could be an option” for assault weapons owned by New Yorkers. Since that interview, Mr. Cuomo has not mentioned the idea, and his aides have acknowledged that it would be impractical.

But gun rights groups have seized on the comment, even promoting a petition on the Web site of the White House that declares, “We do not live in Nazi Germany,” and asks the Obama administration to block any effort at confiscation by Mr. Cuomo.

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In the warm up act before Cuomo speech

A big issue was made about the two Rochester firemen murdered by a "assault weapon". I do not wish to demean their deaths, but they were clearly exploited for political purposes to pre-heat the audience for Cuomo's anti-gun proposals an hour later.

Yet the biggest question went unanswered--Why was a man who murdered his grandmother with a hammer two decades earlier let out of prison by the NY justice system, so he could kill again?

The real criminal for the death of those firemen lies at the feet of the NY government.

Conscience does not exist if not exercised

"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
---Lily Tomlin

You want to increase gun

You want to increase gun violence? Come and Take Them.

Every item in his speech is an example of what not to do

I just watched his speech, and turned it off after the gun part. Here are some highlights:

-ban private sale or transfer of firearms without a NICS check

-ban internet purchase of ammunition

-run NICS on every ammunition purchase

-ban "high capacity" magazines

-ban "assault" rifles

Here are some other items on his agenda:

-raise minimum wage

-pass law "equalizing" women's pay. That means lawsuits against employers after a women agrees to a contract if she finds out anyone else is paid more than her.

-spend $1 billion dollars over the next 5 years on "affordable" housing

-Promote casinos in upstate New York, but outlaw them in downstate New York. His goal is to get gamblers from NYC to vacation upstate.

-Make tax free zones for companies spun out of university research. The state gets to pick the winners and losers.

and on and on and on.....

So Pathetic

It's so pathetic how these politicians push for these gun restrictions after tragedies, playing off people's ignorance and emotions, even though they know that it will cause more violence. It's all just a game to these politicians, so they can hold onto/gain power. It's people like this that are the problem. Just downright evil.

Seems Pointless For New York

Gun restrictions are already so insane there anything further they do
is mere window dressing. The irony is that additional laws will begin affecting former enforcers of the police state as well as the mundane citizens.

Impractical. lol.

Impractical. lol.

OK, so lets say:

I own all sorts of firearms and I move from one state to another. (job transfer, inheirited property, or whatever)
This state of my destination has bans on certain ones that I own.
Do I not have the right to take my personal belongs no matter what they are along with me?
Just playing around with thoughts here, but I don't believe anything should be band. Even full auto.
Seems to me that I should be able to. I have moved around allot and have not left anything behind.

I love my country
I am appalled by my government

Sorry, Tramp..

But you posed the question, "Do I not have the right..." NO, YOU DO NOT have ANY rights left, according to the courts, the state, Big Brother (or Sister), etc. This is exactly the point that Dr. Paul has been screaming from the rooftops for 30 years!!!

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Well then:

I guess I'd rather be an outlaw than an inlaw.

I love my country
I am appalled by my government

You will be arrested in violation of the constitution.

You will have to fight your way through crooked courts while paying expensive crooked attorneys and if you get justice you will have lost everything in the end.

There is no justice, only robbers waiting by the courthouse.


You are probably right:

I think I remember someone getting nabbed in Jersey on something like that.
Now I would not in any way shape or form move to a place that would do that to me, but I can see it happening.
As it stands now, it's best to just keep your mouth shut about what you have and proceed along your merry life with caution.

I love my country
I am appalled by my government

Best to leave New York state

More and more people do every year.


New York maintains a precarious balance between highly populated and very urban counties and counties that are rural. On top of that, there are various reservations. New York City has its own layer of taxes, regulations, and codes which are not shared by the rest of the state. This balancing act has worked well. A kind of federalism within the state. If the NY state government enacts the kind of codes that Cuomo is seeking on a statewide basis, the rural counties will move to secede from the state, as the balance has been broken. It may not happen overnight, but the NY government is moving dangerously close to creating some serious blowback at the county level.

Mr. Cuomo also wants YOUR money...

to help pay for Sandy victims...you know, the people who have homes at the beach and then chose, of their own free will, NOT to have flood insurance, or even homeowners insurance...apparently, Mr. Cuomo feels as though you and I owe these good folks a new house...right back on the same beach. The Governor also conspired with the state Senator, Insurance Commissioner, Bloomberg, et al. in an effort to squeeze the crap out of the insurance companies in not only damage payouts, but also in their claim-handling timeline. I was there...I saw it and heard it first-hand. This was a terrible injustice to the people there, and to the rest of us who they are trying to mandate into paying for everything.

Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry