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McChrystal on MSNBC Morning Joe: 'Serious Action' On Guns Needed

McChrystal on MSNBC Morning Joe: 'Serious Action' On Guns Needed



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Why oh why do we elevate

Why oh why do we elevate these trained warriors to the position of sage? These men are trained to believe that force is the solution, not diplomacy, or more liberty. I am so sick of this deification of the American military.

Sounds like...

McCrystal is applying for the new Gestapo division of Homeland.

The Libertarian Party, irrelevant since 1971.

What an A-hole! Any respect

What an A-hole! Any respect that I may have had for him just got flushed right down the crapper. Fascist pig

Live Free or Die Trying

Maybe we should...

...focus on society itself and not on the guns (which, contrary to popular belief, do not go around shooting people). Maybe we should figure out why society is so violent; why individuals commit such horrible acts, rather than focusing on whatever is politically convenient. I'm no expert here but isn't the investigation of motivation - aside from determining proper punishment - the key to understanding and preventing crime? Perhaps logic, rather than emotions, would better suit this country's needs. Maybe this is too much to ask for such a politically-motivated society. But I thought I'd throw it out there anyway.

Hey McChrystal

watch your back...

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

Serious Action BTW is definitely needed...

I say disarming the government agents of all their guns is of up most importance... Those criminals need to turn them in ASAP or face "the people" (which would be about 3% of us)

Government w guns = Extreme Danger

Citizens w guns = Liberty

Love Liberty, be Vigilant

"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Corinthians 3:17)

Faith in God will prevail all things!

coming from the Butcher of Abu Ghraib/Bagram/Git'Mo,

I ain't surprised in the least.

Of course, he'd be against free people having means to defend themselves. Hey, after all, he faced such opposition 1st hand from the occupied natives in their Central Asian illegal war/occupation folly. LOL.

Oh wait, last I checked, I don't think he ever engaged in active combat at least as far as I know; he's been a cushy base commander in South Korea before taking over the torture train to hell.

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Spent his career carrying the gun...

knows shit about it... the velocity depends on the barrel length but for the average barrel length of 16" the bullet travels around 2500 fps. and the bullet is a measly 55 grains. i mean come on! a 22lr is 40 grains for crying out loud!

here's a side by side comparison (focus on the bullet size) http://imageshack.us/a/img203/3289/photo6ga.jpg

to be quite honest i would rather get shot with the 5.56 than a 22lr. you could get shot in the lower abdomen with a 22lr and the bullet will end up in your lungs or your heart.

so kindly got fuck yourself general!


Love the last comment

Love Liberty, be Vigilant

"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Corinthians 3:17)

Faith in God will prevail all things!

'Serious Action' On Guns Needed????

'Serious Action' On Guns Needed??? Yes, WE NEED TO ARM more law abiding Citizens and train them in the use of arms.

Guns should be as common of a site as cars are. Seriously. This is definitely getting illogically way out of hand.

Its obvious that logic is being entirely over looked here in place of hysteria and ridiculous emotions.

But, when it comes to these talking heads on TV, they MUST push the "Disarm" agenda. How else to you think a draconian government can rule, with armed citizens trained in the use of those arms?

ARM EVERY NON Military and National Guard Member possible. That is how we can all secure Liberty.

Here's the statutory definition of Militia:

10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

ITS Time the UNORGANIZED Militia become Organized! There is a move to disarm and as history has taught for those willing to listen, DISARMING is the 1st step to total control.

Love Liberty, be Vigilant

"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Corinthians 3:17)

Faith in God will prevail all things!

Insubordinate, Fired Generals promoted by the Media?

Funny how not too long ago this idiot was being fired for publicly being insubordinate to his Commander in Chief. Now the media would like his opinion on the 2nd Ammendment?
What's sicker is that we have foot the bill for this parasite's retirement.

What part of...

"Shall Not Infringe"...does he not understand?

He took an oath to support the Constitution, not rebel against it. Pursuant to ARTICLE XIV Section 3. of said Constitution, he is no longer eligible to serve. And Section 4. makes it illegal to pay him any retirement.

Think Truth...Trust Truth...Rely on Truth!

Take his retirement!

I'm with you, what a hypocrisy for that man to receive a retirement. Just his insubordination alone should have stripped it from him, the leach.

I Agree

no retirement.

Love Liberty, be Vigilant

"Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 Corinthians 3:17)

Faith in God will prevail all things!

I AGREE! We need serious

I AGREE! We need serious action regarding a gun ban and now! From this day forward, guns of all kinds, will be available ONLY to private citizens! No government employee, politician, or military personal (while serving in an official capacity, unless the US is geographically invaded by a foreign nation) will be allowed to be armed. This includes the IRS, CIA, NSA, BATF, etc.
I bet this would once again give meaning to a government of the people. All police and other agencies would finally treat citizens as customers, to be served and catered to. The military would not be as adventuresome while unarmed, no worries of invading other countries etc. Also, as a rider to that bill, all troops are to be lead into war by the politicians who vote for that war.

"I can but you can't".

That's what these gun-grabbing traitors say, with a straight face.

WE, the loving "government" can possess effective weapons, but YOU, the cattle, must only be allowed to possess ineffective weapons.

He said it himself, those high-powered rifles are DESIGNED to kill people on impact. So THEY can have them, but the people can't.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

All this

Coming from the guy who actively tried to cover up the real cause behind Pat Tillman's death.


If you heard anything other than:

"Mr. McChrystal, do you believe the American populace should be able to defend themselves from YOU?"

"No, let them have their pistols and hunting rifles, for now. In the future, we fully expect a conflict between us and the citizens of this country. Luckily, we've been disarming them slowly for the last hundred years and conflicts with chattel today will likely be isolated and inconsequential as it is.. but to smooth things along even more, take the 'assault rifles' now and later on we'll get the rest."

clean out your ears.

The guillotine would be too good for you, McChrystal.

Pro and con at the same time

His view: keep military armed force in Afghanistan (Stars & Stripes, AP article, pg 3, 9 Jan issue) but think seriously about citizens not having untethered rights to arms here.. who is paying this retired general?

He is a sore loser

McCrystal got his behind handed to him by lighlty armed (with AK47s) Afganis. So obviously he doesn't want American population to have arms - he won't be able to defeat us!


Generals who advocate against the constitution are turncoats

The man should be arrested, tried and hung.

A news network that promotes this kind of treason should be seized and all assets sold.

This is not about freedom of the press it is about tyranny and every patriot has a duty to stop it.


How many children did your orders kill?

With his June 10, 2009, Senate approval to take command in Afghanistan, McChrystal was promoted to general.

McChrystal's "strategic assessment team" included: Fred Kagan, Kimberly Kagan of the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), www.antiwar.com outs these thugs.

So he fights for our freedom over there but seeks a job trampling our right at home.

I didn't watch

Free includes debt-free!

That is one scary dude.

That is one scary dude. McChrystal is the genuine article: a bonafide killer.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

You will hear a much different story from the boots on the

ground. This guy is a treasonous disgrace. Wonder if this guy even has any REAL combat time. Like actual time in the tranches and being fired at. These couch heroes make me sick. And this guy is just another pentagon hack job.

so this monster terrorizes civilians

in Afghanistan for years using guns and bombs, now he wants to come back to America and suggest civilians should be disarmed. He is a joke.

Ya, he is a perfect example

FOR the case of people arming themselves.

Another Reason

...to stop worshipping the military. He's a disgrace.

Never did get how I was a hero

To defend your country against a foreign invader perceived or real, allways seem like it was the locals where more heros like than me/us.
Plus we had medivac and air cover.

Thinking about at the time the enemy I knew they where as brave if not more so.

Don't get me wrong, I still believe in defense.
The key word is defense!
Preemptive, is kind of what I was brought up to believe the bad guy did.

But to tell you I was good with getting popped at 21yr's of age and was ready to tell my maker "I was the GOOD GUY" I knew that was BS.

Just want what seems to be missing, Truth and Justice for ALL
What is fraud except creating “value” from nothing and passing it off as something?

It Baffled Me Too

12 yrs USMC and I hated hearing such nonsense.