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Piers Owned Again by Ben Shapiro: Thursday, 1-10-13

In another loss chalked up for Piers Morgan, Ben Shapiro of Breitbart hands him a Constitution and crushes him in a debate. Way to go Ben! Links thanks to No sheeple/sharpsteve

Part I:

http://youtu.be/Fkyy_QqTGFE

Part II below

Part 2:

http://youtu.be/mahUrVaEZw4

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Piers Morgan...

Is a walking, talking, horse's ass.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Our government owns any weapons they want.

Just waiting for someone to drill Piers with "Fast and Furious" and our terrible foreign policy. Shapiro had a perfect opportunity.

Gonna need a smooth talker to

Gonna need a smooth talker to do that. Larry Pratt tried twice I believe in his last interview with Piers and was 'deflected'. That's probably the only reason Piers still has a job after goofing up in England. He's too valuable an asset to the MSM.

Most impressive. Ben Shapiro eh?

I think we need to draw this rising star closer to our side.

Disclaimer: for the record I consider self defence to be a primary component of 2nd Amendment rights in support of the 3 inalienables.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

You know you have choice in this matter.

Here is a great video on the illusion of Choice featuring George Carlin. Ron Paul and judge Nap.

http://www.dailypaul.com/269714/great-video-on-the-illusion-...

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ATF

I think we should close the ATF and stop all background checks.

Wow...

Imagine that. A real debate.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Tonights guest on Piers

Nature Boy Ric Flair.He is going to put the WOOOOooo to Piers.Just kidding.I dont watch Piers except on the Daily Paul.WOOOOOOoooo.

Money talks and dogs bark

Nice smack down Ben.

I don't believe all that your thoughts on gun control.You did explain the Second Amendment well.When I see Piers.I see a communist,social,liberal,progressive that is explained in the video Grinding Down America.

Money talks and dogs bark

Points that need to made to Morgan

I'm not a fan of him, but I think Shapiro did a good job on this issue other than a few things. I would point out to that knucklehead Piers:

Stop using the adjective assault before the word weapon. It is a loaded word. The vast majority of people that own semi automatic weapons with large capacity magazines never commit assault on anyone. They are used as sporting weapons and if needed, defense weapons.

Stop calling them military style weapons. No AR-15 used in any of the mass shootings Piers refers to were fully automatic fire. Those weapons were semi auto, therefore civilian style weapons.

On a side point, the militia (the people) being armed is to defend against attacks or threats on the republic. Therefore Morgan continually saying he only wants guns like AR-15s banned but not handguns because he respects the 2nd Amendment shows his ignorance. The militia portion of the 2nd Amendment literally means the people SHOULD have military arms.

Morgan keeps claiming you don't need an AR-15 for defense. Someone needs to inform that blabbering idiot that there are plenty of scenarios where an AR-15 would be needed in self defense; crazed looters after a riot or natural disaster (he should interview shop owners from the LA riots or victims of Katrina looting), or a gang of hooligans breaking into your house as opposed to a lone robber.

I did really like Shapiro pointing out most murders are with handguns therefore Morgan not calling for a ban on handguns suggests he doesn't care about those murdered with handguns. He was throwing right back in Piers face the cheap tactic he uses on guests who defend the right to own an AR-15.

"Do right and risk the consequences”
― Sam Houston

The dark side of Ben Shapiro

Before you slap a Ben Shapiro poster on your bedroom wall, you should know that, by all indications, this guy is trying to set the Guinness world record for most accusations of anti semitism in a lifetime. Relentlessly pushing an Israel-first agenda, he's casually leveled those charges on everyone from Ron Paul to Barack Obama. Here's a sample of his poison:
http://mobile.wnd.com/2009/05/97214/

Wow... is Ben Shapiro jewish?

Is he a neocon?

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Yes

remember seeing him in an interview with Glenn Beck - lauding beck for his relentless work for Israel and everything he had done.

Regardless - he did do a pretty good job against Piers

Shapiro's beliefs are racist, and an assault on the constitution

Just like the 'war on drugs' has cost the black community their liberty disproportionately to their population, depriving them also therefore of their 'uninfringable' right to self preservation, brings the racism AND the assault on the 'fringes' of the 'uninfringeable' of Mr Shapiro and his ardent adherents into perfect focus.

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Nice beat down

however, like some others wrote, Shapiro's proposals to have databases and background checks make me uneasy. Also, why can't I have a fully automatic weapon? If it is tyranny we are deterring then we should have adequate firepower.

The uneasiness makes me think that Shapiro was on the show to make it look reasonable for the databases and background checks. As a means of floating a "compromise" palatable to conservatives.

Nonsense, AJ has it right. No compromise, no exceptions is the only stand worth having. I don't want to look back and see a database being used against me. No way. No Nazi Germany mind tricks for me.

OMG!!!

This is what every guest should say to this pucker mouth shill before anything is said:
You interrupt me one time when I'm speaking and I will knock your fricken head off, you crude uncultured limp Di-k sucker!
Do you understand that?

NOSHEEPLE

Milllliooooon

times better than Alex. Ben kept his cool and completely schooled Piers Morgan. This is how you get people to jump onto the movement - with calculated logical arguments with a great delivery. Well done Ben....made Piers look like a complete a$$.

regain control

We shouldn't stand for 100% background check or anymore law/regs

I'm thinking we shouldshut down the ATF!

Liberty... right?

Sign me up

I agree. Let's save this Country some more money and cut the (B)ATF.

Lima-1, out.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Shapiro is certainly not

Shapiro is certainly not perfect, and folks are right to point out that a tyrannical government will use background checks and databases to snub opposition. However, he's still carrying the message that the 2nd Amendment exists to protect the people from a tyrannical government. His "more reasonable" approach to the issue will attract people closer to our side.

I started out on Hannity and O'Reilly like my father. Then I moved to Glenn Beck. Finally I arrived at Ron Paul and I'm not going anywhere.

What no thought control from the media.

I riles them to believe .People thinking freely.You need to watch Grinding America Down.Video If you get a chance.It will show you were we are heading.

Money talks and dogs bark

Shapiro almost got his point out that i've been waiting

for someone to make for a long time, but i wish he kept pushing it until he got an answer.

Piers and every other anti-gun advocate exclaim that they only want to ban assault weapons. But in this same sentence they discuss the statistics of TOTAL GUN MURDERS. That's like me trying to argue for the banning of machetes while citing statistics for ALL knife related crimes.

The fact is they want assault weapons banned now with the intention of making their case and pushing for a ban on ALL guns later. This is undeniable and i wish Shapiro kept pushing with that line about Morgan's complete inconsistent line of thinking.

Secondly, it is as plain as day light that America is on the verge of a tyrranical state. Shapiro is neo-con so he would not make this point, but Alex should have...he had plenty of time to discuss that instead of discussing chimps on a needle. Forget about any conspiracies, in Obama's first term alone he signed in indefinite detentions for American citizens without trial (is that not tyranny?), he authorised the killing of Americans without a trial (is that not tyranny?), he authorised the killing of children without a trial (is that not tyranny?), the government is now flying drones in the US (is that not tyranny?), the TSA is allowed to sexually assault any citizen (is that not tyranny?), several attempts were made to ban the last free place (the internet) (is that not tyranny?). This was all done in the last 4 years!!!

I mean come on! Can there not be one person who can make this case about how much of a police state the US is in on a national media outlet?

Totally agree

I loved the point about the 'leftists' really wanting all guns. It's was a great point that Piers couldn't answer.

The impression I got was that Ben actually believes we ARE on the verge of a tyrannical state. However, he being a smart guy, understands that if he comes out and says that he is instantly labeled as 'crazy'. So, instead he said in the next 50-100 years. He maintains that there is a threat, but doesn't say it's going to happen next week. He holds to the idea of the threat while not being labeled as crazy. Smart move imo.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

Piers called

the Constitution I have sworn to defend; "your little book"....there are no words....

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

Piers Morgan

doesn't have a Country he can call home. But hey, that's karma, right?

Lima-1, out.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Piers Morgan is like an awkward contestant on "X-Factor"

After receiving three "X X X" he still refuses to get off the stage.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

DAMN!

That's how you do it. AJ take a lesson. This guy is a rock star.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

Sarx, just stop man.

Look, I've been reading your posts about AJ. I don't agree with everything he says either but he's not a hinderance to some people within the Liberty Movement.

Lima-1, out.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

I think

it is just refreshing to hear someone use logic and be reasonable. I think he won. I think AJ had REALLY good points. But, in my opinion, his method overtook his message. That is my opinion. I don't agree completely with AJ or with Ben. I was just excited to see someone be so reasonable. That, to me, is what liberty is all about. We do not have to agree, but we dont' need to go around forcing people to our opinion.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

So you are FOR gun control?

Ben Shapiro did NOTHING, added NOTHING to the debate.

He agreed with Piers on a lot of bullcrap that is not constitutional.

Ben Shapiro is the CONTROLLED opposition who's only function on the Morgan show was the same as all of the Alex Jones bashers here on the DP, namely TO DRIVE WEDGES BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE OPPOSITION.

Without the Alex Jones TOTAL BEATDOWN this smarmy substitute opponent and his watered down argument would not be a story at all.

waiting periods, ban on automatic guns,bans on people who have PAID THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY, and people on medication HAVE ALL THE SAME GOD GIVEN RIGHT to self preservation as anyone else, the 2nd Amendment enshrines and codifies this basic human right.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED leaves NO ROOM for Ben Shapiro and Piers Morgans's gun restrictions.