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News: Rand Paul Will Run For President

Eric Bolling, a co-host of "The Five" on Foxnews network tweeted today:

"BREAKING NEWS ALERT! Source: "Rand Paul will run for President in 2016""

(Thanks to @Anna4RonPaul for the notification RT on Twitter.)




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Lying for liberty!

Yay! :D

Decepticons for Freedom!

Oooo.. tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies... :)

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

He would be lying...

...only if he has no intention of cutting foreign aid to Israel at all. Otherwise, he's playing the hand that's dealt by the voters in order to have a chance at becoming the nominee.

Your wanting all or nothing will get you nothing.

Ron Paul...

built a coalition of millions of people by just telling the truth and having character without ever having a hand on any lever of power and without ever having crafted a single law that passed. And they fear us.

That's what I want. I don't want your damn lies and deception to gain some stupid political office. The people want a statesman, not some deceiver. Especially when the lies appear to justify the ethnic cleansing and ghettoization of the Palestinian people and their territory.

Your little game may only serve to rip the liberty movement into shreds...

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

You mean President Paul?

Paul built a coalition, but he got nowhere in the primaries. There are way too many Israel firsters in the GOP for Ron Paul to have won and he knew it.

And, again, I don't know where you're getting the "lying" charge from since Rand has done no such thing. An across-the-board cut in foreign aid is still an across-the-board cut no matter what country it starts with.

It's clear to me that Rand is the only non-neocon that could actually win. He will therefore not only get my vote, I'll even volunteer for his campaign. Hopefully people who think like you will be too tiny a minority to matter in 2016.

It was the number 1 complaint against Ron Paul.

The churches here were advising people not to vote for Ron Paul because he did not support Israel. Rand is in a tough spot.
Wait and see, that is what my heart says.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

Wait n see is right...

So far he has steer War-i-con Right sounding when RUNNING for votes as t-be-Senator...and then steered libertarian when voting as Senator...

His run to the White House will most likely be the same...steer war-i-con right, but then turn around and act as libertarian as President...

His tough balancing act is he must convince war-i-cons that he's true blue and then meanwhile, must hope enough of us antiwar types think its a mask to win votes.

It will be interesting for sure....

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I hope so...

It just feels dirty.

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

I can appreciate...

the tactical merits of a candidate being vague on the finer details of their full position on a controversial matter in order to get elected, but its just not my thing. :p

Ron Paul didn't get elected but he was 100% responsible for the Great Awakening that saw millions of patriots who thought they were few and all alone become aware of each other and also awoke millions more to the message of Liberty for the first time. Ron Paul accomplished this with honesty and perseverance.

Zionists are a super-serious bunch that seem bent on drawing the US, Russia and China into WW3. If Rand is truly a good guy, I would rather him not get elected than end up watching his funeral on tv because he gave the zionists a false impression...

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

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dweebles.
ron was elected 12 times in his house district which sits next door to the neocon cabal aka, tom delay, karl rove, duhbya, K Harris, and many more and won every time.
and did so, winning MORE of the vote and spending LESS money as EACH election passed. Just as we would expect of our TRUE conservative.
pls get your facts straight.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

For emphasis:

Ron Paul didn't get elected

Let's always keep that in mind when comparing Ron Paul with other politicians who, unlike Ron Paul, are not trying to educate, but are trying to win elections. If the goal is to win elections, Ron Paul is not to be aped.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Point taken...

but my goal is not to get someone elected without having first spread the message and changed the hearts of the electorate. :)

I fully understand the tactical merit and goals of your chosen approach but I choose not to support that effort. I like to speak confidently from my heart without worrying if I've "outed" any secret plans or secret goals.

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p i s s on rand who?

No one who followed the old man should vote for his
arrogant and grasping son.

Ron Paul got 2.1 million vote (counted)

according to Brian Doherty. There were about 3.5 million votes separating Obama and Romney. Maybe Ron Paul would have beaten Obama, maybe not. But, 61 million people voted for Barrack Obama last November. There aren't very many of them that would vote for Rand Paul. The question is: can we find at least 65 million people who would? Because that's about how many it would take to guarantee an electoral win against the 2016 Democrat.

the hard part is getting the

the hard part is getting the nomination, not 50+ million votes.

Yep

I've always believed strongly that in a head to head competition with reasonably equal media coverage, the liberty candidate easily defeats the establishment candidate. The only way to force such a head to head competition is to win the nomination of one of the major parties. The MSM will always ignore our candidates in primaries, because they can. But there's no way they could get away with ignoring our candidate if he's the Republican nominee for POTUS. Hence, our great challenge is winning the primary. The general election is, by comparison, a cakewalk.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

maybe

"There aren't very many of them that would vote for Rand Paul."

From what I saw, many of the unaffiliated conservative voters would vote for someone with views like Rand's. They didn't vote for Rmoney because they didn't trust Romney.

I wonder if...

I wonder if he will mind if his father endorses another candidate.

RickStone

I wonder if you Rand haters

I wonder if you Rand haters will mind if Ron endorces his son.

Why...

Why not follow Rands lead?

RickStone

WTF is Rand traveling to

WTF is Rand traveling to ISrael for? That means he is already bought and paid for, because he needed the okay from the Israeli lobby.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Right...

...and the way to get the okay from the Israeli lobby is to go to Israel and tell them we're going to cut their foreign aid. Yea, that totally makes sense. (facepalm)

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Wait a minute bro... Israel

Wait a minute bro...

Israel is just like the United States - a lot of good, and a lot of bad.

The entire nation of Israel is not evil! They have good guys too, just like the United States does.

Please stop lumping every Jew into the same pile of nonsense.

You don't think a lot of Jewish people can't stand their own government just like we can't stand GWB and Obama?

GET REAL!

There are good Jews, and there are bad Jews.
There are good white people, and bad white people.
There are good black people, and bad black people.
There are good asian people, and bad asian people.

There are good people, and bad people.

Evil has no color, religion, or sexual preference.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

God hauled their asses off to Babylon for a reason... and it was

God hailed their asses off to Babylon for a reason... and it was not because they were good and always did what was right.

I say let God defend them if they deserve to be defended.

I'm not against Israel but I'm am afraid of God and given the track record of these people, people who have shown a tendency to fall away from God's favor, that just maybe we could be supporting them at a time in history when God still has them under His judgement.

Who are we to correct God and modify His punishment?

Let me keep my money so I can give it to God. Don't tax it out of me and take out loans in my name to give it away to a wicked people that God himself has exiled in the past to a foreign land.

And yes, all are wicked. Their hearts are wicked to the core just like everyone else.

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Modern Jews...

...are not the Jews of the Bible. Judaism is a religion, not a race. In fact, the Bible is clear that it never was a race.

If professing Christians would only become like the Bereans and actually read their Bibles, they'd know that. Then good politicians like Rand wouldn't have to placate the "support the state of Israel or God won't bless us!" sentiment just in order to have a chance in the GOP primaries.

LOL!

"God hauled their asses off to Babylon?" Lol. I guess that's one way of putting it.

But, you seem to have missed the fact that Rand wants to stop taking your money and giving it to Israel. But, you do realize of course that even if Rand is elected president, the most he's probably going to get out of Congress is a reduction in aid to Israel.

Here we go. Another case of

Here we go. Another case of open bigotry defended and justified by religeon. Who are we to correct God and modify his punishment? Ill tell you who; Reasoning creatures with brains capable of seeing through fantastical ridiculous peasant controling bullshit so that we may deal with our fellow human beings as civilized minds rather than superstitious peasants who see "enemies of god" and "witches" everywhere we look. Its not the dark ages any more. Evolve. The people of Isreal are no more our enemy than the people of America are the enemy of Iran.

Anyway, im glad we've decided to modify his punishment, because I personally don't see a lot of "good" in throwing rocks at a woman until she's dead for cheating on her husband or being raped. Nor a child for disrespecting his parents. No offense, but god's "punishments" are @#$%ed up and there is no place for them outside of medival superstious peasant control.

Is this one of those evil jews God wants in Babylon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYjuUoEivbE

Governments are evil because they are magnets for evil people.

Rand Paul is activly trying to cut foriegn aid to Isreal's government. Somehow I doubt that makes him popular with APAC.

God didn't take an opinion poll before deciding what

the punishment for adultery should be. He didn't set the nation of Israel apart as his chosen people so He could make them into a democracy. He chose them and set them apart from other nations to be holy and righteous in the middle of a depraved world surrounded by hedonistic, violent heathens who bowed down to and worshipped images they made with their own hands.

That being said, can you point to any other ethnicity on the planet that has been persecuted more than Jews over the past two thousand years? Two thousand years ago, Jews made up about 10% of the population of the Roman Empire and that's not even counting the Jews in Parthia. If that population were to translate to the world's population today, Jews would number about 200 million people. Today, they number about 12 million people and not all of them are fully Jewish. How else can you explain that other than God giving them what they asked for? "His blood be upon us and upon our children."

I'm not saying that to disparage Jews. I love Jewish people the same as any other group of human beings. I'm just pointing out historical facts.

I see...

...that you are still not reading the actual Bible.

You should try registering on Free Republic -- they'd love your comments there.

Why

do you think I'm not reading the actual Bible?

Because...

...of what you wrote:

"Two thousand years ago, Jews made up about 10% of the population of the Roman Empire and that's not even counting the Jews in Parthia. If that population were to translate to the world's population today, Jews would number about 200 million people. Today, they number about 12 million people and not all of them are fully Jewish. How else can you explain that other than God giving them what they asked for? 'His blood be upon us and upon our children.'"

If you read the actual Bible, you would know that modern Jews are NOT the Jews of the Bible and that, therefore, modern Jews are NOT being punished for what happened 2,000 years ago. 70 AD was God's wrath upon the generation of which the Bible speaks. And it happened just as Christ said it would happen.

Read the Bible, pray about for the truth no matter where it leads, and see for yourself.