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News: Rand Paul Will Run For President

Eric Bolling, a co-host of "The Five" on Foxnews network tweeted today:

"BREAKING NEWS ALERT! Source: "Rand Paul will run for President in 2016""

(Thanks to @Anna4RonPaul for the notification RT on Twitter.)

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jrd3820's picture

Hillary has it

If she runs, it's hers. Of course that is not what I want to happen, but that is the reality of the world. That's why I think 2014 is more important anyways.

Michael Nystrom's picture

What do you see of import in 2014?

Any particular races?

We have a special election coming up for a Senate seat, the one being vacated by John Kerry, who gets to take Hillary's Place at State.

Scott Brown, one time tea party darling, will be running again. He just lost to Elizabeth Warren. She beat him pretty good. I voted for her. With Elizabeth - she's a socialist, but at least you know where she stands. She is so darn sincere about her beliefs. She truly believes them. I like that about people. It means they're good people, even if I disagree with their beliefs.

With Scott - he's in the GOP, but he acts like a democrat. He has to. It isn't his fault. He's a representative of the people up here, who are all Blue as Blue can be. If he isn't representative, then he gets the boot. Which he just did.

So running him again doesn't seem like a good idea to me. The people had a chance, and they said no. And here he comes again? Oh please. He got lucky last time, riding in on the wave of tea party excitement, whose waves lapped even the toes of the bluest of blue states, Massachusetts.

The problem is, the GOP up here is weak. There's no rising young star up here (at least not that I know of). But with him, he's like a fox in the henhouse, and that's how the opposition painted him up here: The brush they used was: "He's for Wall Street's Interests." They played that against "She's for the People's Interests."

The developing playoff appears to be shaping up like this:

Scott Brown (retread)


Ed Markey - who has been in congress for 36 years! And one day he sees a juicy meal, not far out of reach and says, "I'd like to eat that." And so he does, and because he's the oldest, biggest lion of the pack, the cubs back off and say - take it, Daddy.

He just hired Elizabeth Warren's fundraising team. They know who to hit, and how to hit them. The question is - are those people exhilarated by Warren, or worn out from being hit up so much?

This will be a good playoff. Another circus.

Kentucky will be a circus if Ashley Judd runs against Mitch McConnel. Whooooweeeeeee! That gonna be a fight, and I wanna see it.

It is all entertainment anymore.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
jrd3820's picture

I just got back from London a couple weeks ago

So I am just getting a feel for what might be happening in 2014. This is my view though. If we can get more Amash type candidates in place it would not matter as much who wins the Presidency.

I like that you will admit here you voted for Warren. I would rather vote for someone who will work on at least one issue I care about then not working on any issue I care about when they say they will. I always said if I lived in Kucinich's district I would vote for him for that reason.

I know it seems like entertainment to some. And I guess it kind of is in a way. However, I am young still and I am on college campuses, and I see a desire for a major change in politicians and elections.

I was in and out of Michigan (my home state) for 2012 and I love that we were able to get Amash in.

I also love the stories of smaller local level GOPs being flipped, and I think there is potential to flip more of them.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Very interesting perspective

Thank you for sharing it. Are you a member of Young Americans for Liberty?

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
jrd3820's picture

Young Americans For Liberty...

I start a job in China in May so I really would not be very effective, however I got my little sister started with them!

I spent 2012 fiercely campaigning for Ron Paul even though I knew he did not stand a chance. I spread the word to so many people, when I look at those last two semesters I hardly remember the homework and class I took, I remember everyday finding a place to write "google Ron Paul" or handing out brochures, or just stopping people in the library and striking up conversations with them. I loved it, it is the most politically active I have ever been, and I am handing the torch to my little sister when I leave for China.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Where are you going in China?

I lived in Taiwan for 2 years.

Now there is an interesting political situation. And I had an observation while there: When in America you see some military planes fly over - F-14's say (which I saw several times in the skies over Taipei) - at least you know they're your country's planes. The same was not true about Taiwan. There was a lot of hot words back in the late 90's between those two.

I also remember talking to a Chinese guy (when I visited Shanghai) who kept talking about the "liberation," when Mao "liberated" them in 1949. I wanted to strangle him every time he said that.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
jrd3820's picture

I have a job teaching English

Lined up for August this year, but I am going for a month to Shanghai in May to get everything set up. I'm hoping to spend the summer in Korea with a friend after that, but finances must be taken into account first.

I have traveled a lot, but this will be my first time in an Asian country. Most of my traveling has been Europe and while it is different than America, I imagine I am in for a culture shock in Shanghai.

remember Rons attitude

Low expectations. Just do you and be happy.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

jrd3820's picture

Good Call

Thanks for the words of wisdom. I am just going to try to take it in as the experience it should be!

Don't see a 70 year old Hillary

with brain problems making a run

jrd3820's picture


Brain problems. Ok, I will give you that, but if she does run the media will hype it as "remember the last Clinton yrs when everything was so good with the world?" I get that that is not the reality, but that is how it will be portrayed. Then there will be a big fuss about our first female President.

So, yes, as you state she might not be able to make a run. However, I stand by my comment that if she does run it is hers.


How does that Clinton theme song go.

"Don't stop thinking about tomorrow". lol

Michael Nystrom's picture

Yeah, she's sunk

I don't think people have overly positive feelings about that era, do they.

I just realized something: Clinton is the Left's version of Reagan. Back then, people were magic. Ha ha ha. They romanticize the past.

"Don't stop thinking about tomorrow -- I T ' L L S O O N B E H E R E . And wow - here we are!

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
jrd3820's picture

I agree the era was not perfect

I was pretty young during the Clinton years. You know who looks back on the Clinton years with some sort of dazed utopic smile in their eyes? People my age, mid-late 20's. Now, I cannot figure it out completely, but there is an admiration for the Clintons amongst people my age.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Yes, I understand

I'm just a little bit older than you. I guess not - maybe twice your age? I'm 45 this year. Clinton was president in the early years that I was out of college. My early working years. Probably about what your age is now.

I remember at first I liked him. That is how they are to be looked at from the periphery - to be liked. I wasn't paying close attention back then. The president was something in the background.

But the whole Lewinsky thing soured him in my eyes.

That may end up working for Hillary now! She stood by her man. Through the good times and the bad. How's THAT for traditional values? Ha ha ha. Politics is so much fun. Too bad there is so much at stake.

Why do you think you get that reaction?

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
jrd3820's picture

I actually know why I get that reaction.

I almost even understand it myself. I am 27. I went through some elementary school, all of middle, and some high school with Clinton.

People had jobs, people had more money, and I do not remember (nor do the people I grew up with) wars. Now, we all know there was some foreign craziness going on, but we could get on a plane and not have to worry about middle eastern terrorists. Then enters Bush... The economy slows down, 9/11 happens, the patriot act pissed people my age off..... Compare the 2 from the angle of not being keenly aware of politics while Clinton was in office, to beginning to look at politics when Bush was in office. Clinton wins in their minds.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Ahh, I see

Your generation is one who has lived through discord and strife in its defining years.

According to Strauss & Howe in the Fourth Turning, your generation is the one that brings us back from the abyss. This is the Fourth turning, and this is it! Every four generations, roughly 80 years, a crisis hits that shakes us to the bone as a nation:

- The Revolution
- The Civil War
- Great Depression / WWII
- Now

If I were to wager, I would say this crisis will be named in the future: "The downfall of capitalism." They will assign the name "capitalism" to this era (even though we know that is not what it is). Or it might be called, "The downfall of corporatism" - depending on who wins.

What is becoming clear to everyone - from the Tea Party to the Occupy - is that the system we live under - regardless of what it is called - is unjust.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.
jrd3820's picture

The Downfall of Capitalism

I like it. Well.... not the reality of it, but I like the title.

Occupiers and Tea Partiers had more in common than most will admit. Imagine if they could have put a few issues aside and worked together.

I'm a lit major. I love reading and writing. I have been recording different stories about my generation and the upcoming battle we face because I know it will be important someday. I graduated high school in 2003 and saw so many of my friends go off to war and many of them died or came back severely injured. We are also the ADHD generation where almost everyone I know from elementary school was on Ritalin or something and most of them have dependency problems to this day. We also were in middle school when we watched Columbine play out in front of us while we were in school.

The Downfall of Capitalism. I like it Michael. Thanks for running this site and keeping it open for anyone who wants to learn about Ron Paul. Also, thank you for telling members they are always welcome back. That stuck out to me in a recent thread, I thought it was very kind of you.


Which party nomination will he seek?

egapele's picture

That is not news, that's faux news.

Sources, links, confirmation from him, etc. would be better.

I hope this is true

I don't know any republicans who won't vote for him. I hope he does it.

No Benton This Time!

The man has neither conviction nor political juice now that we know what he's about.

Kathleen Gee's picture

BOTH of my parents will vote for Rand

Neither one would vote for Ron Paul.

So already, in my family, that's a 300% increase in Liberty votes over this previous election.

Rand is the Trojan Horse of the Liberty Movement.

Rand Paul 2016!!

"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." - Ronald Reagan

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I think you are correct, I know people that I consider main stream Repubs that already are talking about backing Rand, but did not vote for Ron in the primaries or at our caucus.

um, may be it's the other way around?

No offense to your parents, but may be this says something about Rand?

“Although it was the middle of winter, I finally realized that, within me, summer was inextinguishable.” — Albert Camus

jrd3820's picture

That is great to hear

I see the opposite problem in my crowd though. I know a handful of younger people that would/did vote Ron Paul but would not vote Rand so I guess that evens it back out to the middle.

Could Those Be The Liberal...

... folks who entered our movement based on the drug issue. I bet those are a percentage.

We need to get an early start on 2016: Support Rand PAC 2016



jrd3820's picture

Not really

Maybe a small percentage. The people I am talking about are older than young (think late 20's early 30's), but younger than old and entered the movement because they are sick of wars and they are sick of the overarching Federal government.

Most of them did not care about drugs because most of them were not drug users and if they were they had been doing it long enough without any care it was not a huge voting issue for them.

I am in the same boat as you.

I am in the same boat as you. The reason why its true, is that Rand is portrayed as an almost evangelical (dont ask me how) neo-con, even on par with McCain to most typical Indy's/moderate libs by the media. I convinced several friends who voted for O in 08 to vote for Ron in the primaries of 12. To a person they almost all share the above opinion of Rand.

However, the majority of my family who watch fox news and thought Ron was "out there," all love Rand.

The second group is much larger than the first.

I believe Carol Paul when she said Rand is smarter than Ron and she said that Ron would also say the same. Remember that he grew up at Ron's dinner table talking about Jefferson, Cleveland, Mises, and Hayek. Ron had to figure it all out on his own. Ron's stated intention was to spread ideas. I believe that Rand is an intentional "phase II," designed to win. It is important to remember this when evaluating Rand's actions. I don't know what he is doing, but Rand is becoming the favorite of the Republican Party, believe that.

Now all we have to do is make sure he picks different people to run the campaign.

I have the utmost confidence

that Rand will undo many of the unconstitutional acts done in the last 12 years should he get elected....He may not be as strict as his father but HE WILL make this country a much better place than it is now and restore many of the freedoms we have lost during 8 years of the Bushleaguer and 8 years of his twin Obozo the clown and no matter how you slice it, that is a plus for this country, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and our kids and grand kids!
Of course we could always vote for Ventura or something and garner another 3% of the vote and get a big fat ZERO done and stay the course to complete disaster...seems the choice is clear to people who really care about these things.... Rand Paul 2016 !

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
Samuel Adams