Only Neocon Scum Desire Civil WarSubmitted by Tman2000 on Fri, 01/11/2013 - 21:38
I admit my title is a little trolling, but I have a point. Please read and don't immediately downvote.
I read stuff about an armed uprising, or a regiment of patriots cutting off the head in Washington.
What the hell would that accomplish? Raising a mob to take out the current government, then impose a new one on everybody is called insurrection and it deserves to be put down.
The ownership of guns, that is because we acknowledge the private ownership of guns, is why we have rules pertaining to insurrection. If no one held guns privately, there would not be a possibility of insurrection. Why then make insurrection a crime?
Here's the LIBERTY based way to employ 2nd amendment rights to restrict an encroaching federal government:
-Form local political societies: Whether it be in the town hall, community center, or someone's basement. Tracking the opinions of the people and the spread of ideas, debates, and information between them need to be their responsibility! Basic community rules and viewpoints should be the product of communities, not the media or the government.
-Bring the local political societies to bear on local and state government: Resist unjust laws, advocate against unjust practices, document and publicize corruption.
-Use the apparatus of local government to compete with and stand against central power: nullification, constitutionalism, devolution of power.
Guns and armed revolt come into play to defend the local political societies against the centralized ones. Specifically, state governments receive pressure from above. Guns are leverage that the people have to reconstitute unjust local government captured by the federal power.
IN OTHER WORDS THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS PROTECTS THE RIGHT ESTABLISHED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT: PEACEABLE ASSEMBLY, AS IT EVOLVES INTO THE FORMATION OF LOCAL POLITICAL SOCIETIES. GUNS PROTECT THESE POLITICAL SOCIETIES FROM THE CENTRAL POWER.
A massive uprising is chaos which may lead to a continental congress and a Washington. Or it might lead to violent suppression and the delegitimization of patriot ideas for a century.
If an uprising did result in success guess who would lead it: GUYS LIKE GLENN BECK AND BILL O'REILLY.
What we need to do is form political societies
- Correspondence committees
- Community forums with parliamentary rules and record keeping and an inclusive scope (lefties and patriots)
- Organized militias
- Common purposes: manifestos, doctrines.
We all, even at DP have vastly different points of view, but we can agree on basic things like the scope of federal power. OWS and the Tea Party opposed the bailout. The principles of constitutionalism are shared by the neo-con influenced tea party populace and liberty loving patriots.
NEXT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART
The reason why we haven't formed these political societies is because we are all deluding ourselves. We imagine that the political process will still effectively lead to liberty. We are dependent on federal programs, many of us, and aren't ready for what comes next. We talk about organic/free farming, gardens, but only a few of us have them. We talk about banking corruption, but few of us try meaningful alternatives (community currencies, bitcoin, etc.).
ALL OF US ARE WAITING FOR A GRAND CIVIL WAR, LUSTING AS NEOCONS DO FOR NATIONAL GREATNESS IN BATTLE, AND THEN AFTER VICTORY WE'LL HAVE OUR FREE SOCIETY.
This is not a good plan, we need to act, to start the revolution today. Not a violent revolution, but begin to grow our own food, use our own currencies. Many of us have done this, but we need to think of it as a war. Not a violent fight, but a willingness to kind of go out on the line to change our lifestyles.
We need to grow up, become bigger people. Less willing to be paranoid of those who might help us. More inclusive. We need mission statements, lines in the sand, magnanimity. We need to be more willing to spend time helping the less fortunate, more comfortable engaging socially with people very different from and awkward to us.
ONCE WE FORM TRUE LOCAL POLITICAL SOCIETIES, THEN WE CAN MEANINGFULLY EXPRESS OURSELVES POLITICALLY. WE DON'T HAVE TO WIN ELECTIONS NATIONALLY TO GET OUR FREEDOM. MERELY ACT IN CONCERT. CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE, BACKED BY A VOTING MACHINE THAT HAS LOCAL IMPACT.
AND WHEN THE FEDERAL, CENTRAL POWER GROWS WEARY OF OUR INFLUENCE AND COMES AFTER US WITH HANDCUFFS AND BULLETS, THEN OUR GUNS AND OUR MILITIAS CAN HAVE A ROLE. BUT WE MUST NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER INITIATE VIOLENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, the time is now I say. Enough of the bullcrap. I'm ready for a revolution. I'm sick of the direction our country is going. No violence, no fighting. Organizing, sacrificing, resisting encroachment, educating. Independence within our rights. We don't even need a new constitution.
We talk about it, but we're not doing a good enough job of doing it! I think we're getting better, but we need to double down, and do it now.
What do you think?