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I know this is from a left-leaning/anti-war website...but this war atrocity saddens me to the core.

I did not even learned/heard nor read about this version in my history class back home, when I was growing up...this really saddens me.

Philippine-American War of 1899

The brutal slaughter ignored in U.S. textbooks

By Lydia Bayoneta

The Philippine-American War of 1899 is remembered by Filipinos and by working class and progressive people around the world as the first national liberation struggle fought in Asia against the United States. It serves as an example of how U.S. imperialism, even in its infancy, practiced genocide of a monstrous proportion.

Little or nothing can be found about the Philippine-American War in public school textbooks in the United States. In the Philippines, the schools were reorganized by U.S. colonial administrators to make sure that an entire generation of Filipinos was miseducated about the war. This is remarkable in view of the tremendous resources committed to the war by the U.S. government and the high number of casualties suffered by both sides.

The U.S. military budget was increased at the time to a record high $400 million. And 126,468 U.S. troops were deployed in the war. Of these, 4,234 were killed--almost twice as many as had died in the preceding Spanish-American War.

There were at least 20,000 Filipino battle casualties, by the U.S. count. No official records were kept of civilian casualties. However, in 1901 the New York Times interviewed Gen. Franklin Bell, who was responsible for setting up concentration camps in the province of Batangas. He estimated that 600,000 Filipino civilians had been killed as a direct or indirect result of the war on the island of Luzon alone.


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Militarily Speaking...

It's ALL 'left leaning'...No form of collectivism is 'right leaning'...You either belong to a collectivist(communistic) 'group' or you don't.


are all about profit for a few at the expense of the many.

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Was Just Talking About This Today . . .

with a relative of mine who has sponsored a girl from the Philipines since she was a youngster. Now the young lady has graduated from high school.
RJ Rummel from the Univ of Hawaii, has done a great deal of research on 'democide' which is the murder of people by 'governments'. (Of course 'government' is only a concept that denotes individual human beings under the cover of this label.) Rummel's research found that the numbers for civilans killed in the Philipine-American war is very difficult to pin down accurately. He mentioned the 600,000 figure mentioned in the OP. He stated that an estimate of at least 125,000 civilians killed would be extremely conservative.
I have spoken to people from the Philipines who are well educated. This includes those who are doctors and nurses. They were taught nothing about this in public 'school', of course.
My held views on Teddy Roosevelt have changed drastically from that which I had before. (And don't even get me started on Lincoln. What I later learned about 'Honest Abe' was one of the turning points in transforming my personal outlook on the world. That was one of my 'its all been a big lie' moments.)
Rummel also estimated that about 13.8 MILLION Amer Indians were killed during the settlement of the West from the 15th-19th Centuries. About 17.3 MILLION Africans were killed by American slavery. Which equals the 30 MILLION slaughtered by the Mongols.
The bodies really started stacking up in the 20th Century.
Its almost amusing when some people mock some peoples concerns about the threat of tyranny in America. "It could never happen here." they 'think'. Well its already happened in the past, and could happen again. Anyone who knows history, and knows about the NDAA, proposals of drones overhead, huge spy networks watching the citizenry, etc know that the possibility is very real.
What happened in the Philipine-American War was tragic. What is happening now around the world - Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc is horrible. (Look up the stats of the number of civilians killed.)
This happens because the American people are ignorant and blinded by the propaganda and indoctrination they have received. Too many are like naive children who believe in fairy tales.
The American founders tried to form a limited government for a reason. THEY actually KNEW history.

I totally agree with you. I was educated in a school run by...

Italian priests (Salesians) from prep level to my 4rth yr (senior high), and absolutely NONE of this "democide" was ever mentioned in my History class nor uttered by any from school at all. Btw, this was during the Martial Law years under the dictatorship of Marcos...but now I believe the "demolition job" of brainwashing generations of Filipinos from the truth about the Philippine-American War was implemented ways earlier...long, long before Marcos. I should know. Even my folks, nor my grandparents mentioned nothing about this historical atrocity...

I've been through real tyranny first hand (my father, an M.D. was incarcerated for 3 yrs by Marcos, and was part of a team of physicians attending to the health of his mother). Those were real painful years of my family.

Thank you for sharing your personal experience

with this use of the 'memory hole'.

Some, though likely not regular Daily Paul readers, may take my comments as 'anti American'. They are not.

The point of my (perhaps too long) prior post was that this is common with those who rule throughout history. Look at the 20th Century record of the USSR, Red China, and Nazi Germany. There are many more examples of this throughout the world.

We cannot think 'it can't happen'

The one point where I may disagree with RJ Rummel is in the belief that 'democracies' are less likely to commit such acts, because they are less likely to war against each other. Democracy is 'two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner'. Popular opinion is easily manipulated, especially by the media and public 'schooling'. Hitler was voted into office.

The American founders understood this and sought to limit government. They established a republic, not a democracy. In our republic one is supposed to have recognized God given rights that cannot be taken away, and defenses against tyranny. Regards, - - -

I think you

You should lose the ambiguity in the title and change it to. . I know this is from a left leaning . .

Because your title implies the Daily Paul is a left leaning (originally socialist) website, which obviously could not be any further from the truth.


Happy now?!

Sure. I'll give you a free bump.

Look into East Timor.

Noam Chomsky discovered that while Pol Pot was creating the Killing Fields with Soviet help, The US was subsidizing an equal genocide in East Timor.

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I beleive this was under the watch of Indonesian dictator...

US puppet, Suharto (like Marcos).


Aren't you? It seemed to be causing a fair bit of confusion, now people can focus on the subject matter, not the title.

Cheers anyway.

Some people did "get it" earlier (without the changes)....

I rest my case.

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some people didn't bother to read
cuz they didn't get it

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Okay...next time, I'll switch my "anal retentive" mode

for exacting detail.

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makes no difference to me

do whatever you want,just don't expect
too many people to read your posts
and after your comment,i am sure to disregard yours
i told why,can't accept it? no skin off my behind

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

The Daily Paul stands by the

The Daily Paul stands by the Cathars


Please fix headline

Link is "From a socialist website".

Be direct, don't make excuses, they confuse.

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For your sake and the "confused", I'll change it to..

"left leaning".

Hope that helps you sleep better tonight... ;p

there's absolutely nothing

there's absolutely nothing left-leaning about this website.. that's always a false assumption on what libertarians really are..

Don't let it happen again ;-)

You've done good starting this thread.

"I know this is" ... What is, the Daily Paul?

"This' is used ambiguously. Be specific, I cannot see what you are pointing at with your 'this'. Way at the bottom of the post I find out the link you are judging.

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Read "The Imperial Cruise"

If anyone wants to delve deeper into U.S. imperialism in the Pacific, I suggest reading "The Imperial Cruise" by James Bradley. It is a very well written account, mostly of T.R.'s racist exploits and their lasting effect through the time of both World Wars.

Thanks for the tip, Summjet. A good reason to download Nook for

my Xoom tab. :)

After my belly laugh.

Socialist site? hahahahaha...it's a libertarian site ya dufus.



You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

You probably meant..."left libertarian"


It is socialist (libertarian socialism)...left leaning, just the same...you arrogant newb.

Don't worry..I'll make "slower" for you, next time. ;)

Intellectual Giant are ya?

Judging by your insults. Why are you on this site, again?



You can't get clean in a dirty bathtub.

He is talking about the daily Paul

Your title is misleading, at least ambiguous. You arrogant newb . . . ;p


am I required to remind you, to read my whole above post..all the way down?!

No , I won't.

I'm Lazy. I read, after I am reasonably sure it is worth while. Sometime I will look at up votes or comments of trusted posters.

This is a free-market of ideas. Have a good idea, such as this one, make it easy. You have a lot of competition.

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A lot of competition, indeed....

from bad spellers.

That why I rarely post.

Just comment, fewer will be offended.

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This is DP after all. Ain't got no "thin rind"...