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Rand Paul's Son Charged With Assault

http://www.wcnc.com/news/editors-pick/Assault-charges-filed-...

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- New charges have been filed on William Hilton Paul, the grandson of former presidential candidate Ron Paul, and son of U.S. Senator Rand Paul.

William Paul, 19, was arrested last Saturday at Charlotte-Douglas International Airport after his flight from Lexington, KY landed in Charlotte.

Paul, a Bowling Green, KY resident, was charged with consuming beer/wine underage, disorderly conduct and being intoxicated and disruptive.

According to the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office, Paul is facing a new charge: assault on a female by aggressive physical force, a misdemeanor.

The circumstances around the new charge have not yet been revealed. It's not clear if the new charge is related to his arrest last week.

http://www.wcnc.com/news/editors-pick/Assault-charges-filed-...

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Meh, my last semester man.

Meh, my last semester man. I'm cruisin' : )
Good luck in China.

You will be the first if you have integrity.

Have you ever dealt with one?

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What do you mean? Have I ever

What do you mean? Have I ever dealt with a lawyer? Yes, of course. I'm a 3rd year student. I worked with a defense/family lawyer last summer. He never did anything that seemed that he was all about money to me. He seemed to generally care about his clients but sometimes his clients were simply in the wrong so there was not much he could do. That's how it goes. I'll do the same. I'll find any way I can to get my clients out of jail but if they are guilty and there's no way of getting around it then there;s not much you can do except try to get them the least amount of time you can. That's just how it goes. I'll tell you this though, the first thing I look at is if the police did anything unconstitutional.

You guys need to stop looking at all lawyers the same. Yes, most corporate lawyers are about money. But people like me and others are small town defense lawyers who care about people. It's not about money for everyone. So please stop putting every lawyer in one group of greedy bastards.

I've Never Met Anything BUT Greedy Lawyers

There's a REASON why some of us have bad opinions of lawyers, cops and military people. It's called "personal experience" What else am I supposed to judge by?

skippy

Well, you are welcome to

Well, you are welcome to believe what you want but I can only give you my own experience and values. If you want to throw me into a group of people that only you have experienced then go ahead. That's like saying that just because you've only known a cop that has pulled you over hey are all bad. And perhaps he could have had a reason to pull you over. In any case, some of us actually respect the constitution There is no need to throw us on in one group. Isn't this something that RP has been against? Grouping everyone in one group? Aren't we all individuals?

A word to those studying to be pagan lawyers...

1 Corinthians 6

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.

14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Thanks, the bible means

Thanks, the bible means nothing to me.

I agree, good point.

THERE IS NO JUSTICE!

With or without the attorney you are screwed even if you win.

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This is somewhat true. Being

This is somewhat true. Being accused of anything fucks you over whether you are guilty or not. With that I can agree.

I was referring to the $250 per hour legal fees, not the crime.

It may cost him $20,000 to win... and that is not winning anything but an oppressive and cruel legal bill to his own attorney who merely has to show up for court so to make motions for him.

It is true that his own attorney is an officer of the corrupt court sanctioned racket overseen and run by the bar so to keep fees at a maximum.

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Well, if you are poor you pay

Well, if you are poor you pay no legla fees. Otherwise you pay for a lawyer. That was what I was talking about. You can be accused of anything and you'll pay for it. I'm not saying it's right. If it were up to me the state would need a lot evidence before bringing any charges. But until I am able to make those laws I can't do anything except help the people accused. Like I said, I'm not worried about money. I'm sure I will be giving people very cheap service. I'd rather lose money than allow the state to imprison someone who doesn't deserve it.

There ya

OK I'll post my paper one

OK I'll post my paper one sec.

Cool. I'll read it. Drop me a

Cool. I'll read it. Drop me a message here and link to it. I'm going to bed soon, so I'll have to read it tomorrow. Lookin' forward to reading it. Night, Hay.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.

It's right there above ya.

It's right there above ya. Just posted it.

well as long as we are conjecturing

it's just as plausible to say that:

William Paul pushed away the hands of a TSA woman and got charged with assault.

That's as good a theory as any.

No Doubt

I heard about a woman that demonstrated how she had been felt up by a TSA TO another TSA agent and she got arrested for assaulting the TSA agent that she demonstrated on! How's THAT for ironic?

skippy

Probably as good as any conjecture.

Okay for them to grope and prod you, but touch them or resist and you are charged with assault.

beephree

I add a charge: Conduct unbecoming of a Paul

“…We live with a lot of violence: state violence, police violence, individual violence and were in a very violent culture and I think it’s a result, and this is my own theory, I think it comes from the fact that welfare-ism and socialism doesn’t generate a sense of self-esteem. ...It generates, instead of generating a understanding, an enjoyment of liberty, it generates this idea that somebody owes me something, ... this is very negative…I think self-esteem comes from production. Where you feel good about yourself, that you did something.”

A circle of dependency, less confidence, frustration, more violence, more fear, more dependency, less confi...etc.

Acting violently promotes that circle. Turning the other cheek, the Christianity that one need not share with Ron Paul to appreciate his principles but that does animate his own efforts, turns away from that vicious circle, and mitigates against its effects.

The kid's 19. He may have pushed someone to get out of

questions or something. Not that that is gentlemanly, but it is a misdemeanor charge so if he did it, could it have been that much?

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

Then it is a question of who assaulted who first.

Is this like those hookers bringing false charges against Assange.

Some lady bringing charges of assault? How tongues will wag!

Free includes debt-free!

What is going on here? Two

What is going on here? Two charges in a couple of days?

It was the same day I think, I think that was the

'disorderly' part they didn't tell us earlier.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

I believe in cause and effect.

Paul being a minor is not allowed to buy alcohol, it's against the law. Okay, but it is also against the law to sell / serve a person under 21 alcohol, and it carries a higher fine and perhaps jail time than the person underage would get for consuming it. So where are the charges on the airline that served it to him?

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Really what state laws apply when flying over several states.

So far they have made accusations for political hay.

Police and gangs often use blackmail.

Free includes debt-free!

All 50 states

have laws in place against selling alcohol to minors, as for which state would enforce the law, I would imagine the state where the airline took off from.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

I'm pretty sure you can get beer in some states when you are 18

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Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

In some states

I am sure it is legal to consume alcohol when under 21, but all 50 states have laws on the books concerning the sale of liquor to youths.

http://nationalsubstanceabuseindex.org/alcohollaws.htm

"Usually enforced by the state’s alcohol beverage commission (ABC), these laws empower the ABC to rescind the license of any business that knowingly sells alcohol to an underage individual. All 50 states have selling alcohol to youth laws."

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Louisiana and Idaho were

Louisiana and Idaho were holdouts, and Reagan put a clause in the highway bill that would cut highway funding to any state that didn't pass the Age 21 requirement for purchase.

One of those few areas where Reagan acted as an apostate to federalist revivalism.

I assume

Idaho and Louisiana caved in?

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James