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True Story - IRS had their asses handed to them.

I decided to share a story of my great great grandfather. The story is short, but I think it tells you more about the IRS than any other. And I was reminded of it because of a different tax thread popping its head around.

My great great grandfather owned a plot of land. It wasn't a particularly valuable piece of land. Nothing that anyone would fight him over, that's for damned sure. But it was his land.

He was a traveling gun salesman (seriously).

I can't honestly say that anyone in the family knows the details of what was claimed by the party visiting him that day, as he wasn't given the time to fully provide his information, nor was my family especially prone to listen to him.

Someone came onto that land. Not just someone, it was a revenuer. Now, I don't know which organized crime syndicate, aka government, he was there to represent.

My great grandfather (the man's son, who was the only male present that day) allowed the revenuer a first hand view of his father's wares and chased him off at gunpoint.

The revenuer, or his soiled pants, were never seen again.

A piece of paper, written in a law book didn't give that man any special powers to steal from my family, nor did it take away the power of the gun in my great grandfather's hand to protect my family's money and land.

What gives these jackals their power is the armed agents operating on their behalf. Don't fool yourself, ever, into thinking that finding a legal means to protect yourself will work. The "law" is meant to bind you, not them.

Need proof? Look around.

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When was...

When was the last time someone was involuntarily tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail?

Mark

No. It was not me.

Some say it should a been. But, it ain't so.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Tarring and Feathering

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarring_and_feathering

The first recorded incident in America occurred in 1766: Captain William Smith was tarred, feathered, and dumped into the harbor of Norfolk, Virginia, by a mob that included the town's Mayor. A vessel picked him out of the water just as his strength was giving out. He survived, and was later quoted as saying that "...[they] dawbed my body and face all over with tar and afterwards threw feathers on me." As with most other tar-and-feathers victims in the following decade, Smith was suspected of informing on smugglers to the British Customs service.

The practice appeared in Salem, Massachusetts, in 1767, when mobs attacked low-level employees of the Customs service with tar and feathers. In October 1769, a mob in Boston attacked a Customs service sailor the same way, and a few similar attacks followed through 1774 (the tarring and feathering of customs worker John Malcolm received particular attention in 1774). Such acts associated the punishment with the Patriot side of the American Revolution. The exception was when, in March 1775, a British regiment inflicted the same treatment on Thomas Ditson, a Billerica, Massachusetts man who attempted to buy a musket from one of the regiment's soldiers. There is no known case of a person dying from being tarred and feathered in this period. During the Whiskey Rebellion, local farmers inflicted the punishment on Federal tax agents.

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Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

this reminds me of a story my

this reminds me of a story my grandfather told me. A man in Grand Junction Colorado had a piece of land. The city was wanting it for something and some jackass in the city government was harrassing him about it. One day the guy had a meeting with the city guy. As the meeting progressed the Man took a 44 magnum bullet out of his pocket and put it on the city employee's desk. He said I have 2 of those. If you steal my land the other one is for you. He got up and walked out. From that point forward he never heard another word from the city who was trying to confiscate his land for the "good" of the city.

+1

make it personal.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

Plus 1

Guys and dolls, notice the theme of this post: nature, what is natural: natural rights.

The human derives his rights from no man or a creation of his. He derives his rights from his being alive (as opposed to being born) or, as some people say, from a or the high being.

The U.S. Constitution issues nothing, just as any other government document does, and because of it the federal government cannot remove your rights. It's imperative each of us comprehends and spreads accuracy on this matter.

The U.S. Constitution is the protector of rights, protector in that it limits the centrality nationally in what it can do. The process is protection through limitation, through defense (or reaction), if you will. This process should be emulated on the remaining government levels, the state and local levels. So, any government document, the U.S. Constitution or otherwise, gives -- and removes -- NO rights, but it can, and should, protect/defend them. Your rights? Life, liberty and (the pursuit of) happiness.

If we can spread this education, DPers, we're talkin' good times are ahead. For everyone.

wolfe, fine post.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton Forest Dutton, MD, in his 1916 book whose subject is origin (therefore what all healing methods involve and count on), simple and powerful.

"If there is one that isn't, I will pay dinosaur rates."- Twain

          TAX

"There isn't a rich man in your vast city who doesn't perjure himself every year before the tax board. They are all caked with perjury, many layers thick. Iron-clad, so to speak. If there is one that isn't, I desire to acquire him for my museum, and will pay Dinosaur rates."
- "A Humane Word from Satan" by Mark Twain

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

I'm reminded of the movie "Second-hand Lions"

Great movie!

that movie is one of my all

that movie is one of my all time favorites.

Yeah, great movie:

One of my favorites for sure.

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I love my country
I am appalled by my government

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I've never seen it...

But the imdb info looked interesting so I will take a look at it.

Edit: Just started watching it.

roflmao... 8 minutes into the movie and I already REALLY like these guys...

That scene with the "investment salesmen" is how I always pictured the story of my great grandfather (except the age), so got a kick out of that... :)

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

They left him alone because they didn't have backup!

So I guess the problem is that they have easy access to backup these days. We gave them too much money and they armed and staffed up. Now we're screwed

EXACTLY!

EXACTLY!

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

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lol...

Yep... :) That's pretty much the moral.... lol

Actually, there is one more moral to the story.

My great grandfather was a good man. He lived a long, full, and happy life with large number of children and descendants to follow him. I have never met anyone inside, or outside the family that would say a bad word about the man. And he lived to be damned near 100.

The events of that story were when he was a young boy.

If that story had taken place -today-, that good man, and all the subsequent generations, and all of the good he did in his life, and the joy he shared with family and friends would have evaporated as he was gunned down by our government and he would have been labeled a nut... For defending his family.

He passed in the late 90's.

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

Revenuers and Tax collector are an old problem.

In Imperial Rome, they took whatever that could extort.

A minority of eligible voters elect Representatives to Congress.

Even a consensus in Congress is taxation without representation.

A quorum of eligible voters did not consent to these taxes in any way.

Nor the debt incurred.

It is a governmental of no authority acting as a tyranny of a minority.
A minority daring to pass unconstitutional laws.

You may be right due process might not allow the kite of liberty to fly.

But if due process doesn't work try the second amendment and due process.

If due process and the second amendment doesn't then will try due process, the second amendment free speech, a free press, free assembly, free travel, government free zones,...

Anarcon - without ruler not without rules by self rule(autonomy).

Government is a force of nature. It has killed million this century. We either weather its storms or not.

Even our ancient oral tales tell of a man awaking free in paradise all rights intact. the story still unfolds.

Men at Work: We're in for stormy weather
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vlSPRtZpQg

Free includes debt-free!

That's awesome Wolfe!

And you are right, they only way to beat these guys is to disarm them. Or move somewhere that they have no backup! Good post