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I've decided to surrender all my modern weapons and high capacity magazines

and return to the types of weapons that existed when the Second Amendment was crafted, as soon as the media ceases broadcasting and returns to printing out newspapers one page at a time as it was when the First Amendment was written.

What do you think Piers...up to it? The consolidation of the power of the media, and their accepting of advertising revenue from Big Pharm, is a million times more threatening to our way of life than any fire arm. One only has to look at the photographs of the miserable miscreants who committed the last few mass murders to get a grip upon what is really the root cause of this issue. And Obama is now throwing a blank check to the mental health industry.

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Great post.

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Big Pharma gets plenty of help from

Big agribusiness! Monsanto's GMO's make you sick and big Pharma tries to heal you! It's a vicious circle of death they have us all in! If we add up the high cost of getting well to the cost of the cheap GMO's, we'd think twice before eating.

But if you're totally convinced GMO's are good for you, prove it by eating twice daily Walmart's fresh sweet corn. walmart has the newest freshest GMO sweet corn from Monsanto!

Gold standard: because man can not be trusted to control his greed

I sold all of mine...

Ha-ha-ha-ha...what with the premium prices they were bring...
Who could resist cashing in their self defending stuff to purchase more PM? Silver is down...guns are up.
Make a move baby.
Well. Except for the good stuff.
Moo-ha-ha-hah hah.

RAND PAUL or NOT AT ALL

Interesting....

Last week I purchased a 223 semi and am now finding it a bit difficult to locate ammo in bulk. Found 20 boxes at a local shop which I snapped up. I think the manufacturers are a bit "gun shy" about turning out a product that they might get stuck with as much as that doesn't make sense.

If not us than who?

I keep hearing this claim about big Pharm paying the MSM

Seriously, where is the proof of this? I see the media pushing plenty of alternative medicine.

The MSM is awful at promoting evidence based science.

I had to downvote this post because it is deceitful. I agree 1000% about the guns and printing press, but it is intellectually dishonest to tie pharmaceuticals into guns and speech like it is cut and dry. This is disappointing propaganda.

You need proof of Pharma & Corp Media connection ?

Just look at all the Ads on CNN, MSNBC, etc.. they are like 50-75% Pharma ads

and as far as Pharma and Violence go here, Read & learn

http://www.ssristories.com/

All modern Mass School shooting began right after SSRI's started to be given to Public.

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www.whatreallyhappened.com
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Try ACTUALLY READING THE SSRISTORIES

They are almost entirely anecdote and speculation. Few of those stories actually name a drug and dose. People keep posting this website like everyone else is stupid and it is self explanatory, but it is far from conclusive. The plural of anecdote is not data, and the anecdotes are not informative or scientific to begin with.

David Healy has his own agenda. He has ties to Scientology and promotes electroshock therapy.

So please, before you condescend anyone else, please fucking read and analyze the links you are posting.

Not to thread-jack but...

Pharmaceutical companies aren't promoting evidence based science either. They're promoting drugs. They're promoting so-called "standards of care" and other nonsense. If you aren't at least open to the idea that maybe the American medical system (and indeed possibly the entire practice of Western Medicine) is wrong on a LOT of scores - I think you might be in the wrong place.
For starters, look on alternative health sites (Natural News, Mercola, Weston a. Price) for information about cholesterol, statins and heart disease. Do a little research on fluoride or mercury fillings. A cursory open-minded search in the space of about 30 minutes will show you that much of what is promoted by big Pharma is hogwash at best and dangerous - sometimes fatal - at worst.

You might see some in the media pushing a few alternative-y things like Dr. Oz recommending people take tumeric for brain health, but when push comes to shove, the MSM lines up in lock-step with big Pharma.

Furthermore, you cannot say that there has not been an absolute media blackout on the links between mass shooting incidents and pharmaceuticals. Whether or not the MSM is getting $ from BP (and they don't typically disclose that, except you can obviously see all the ad-buying on MSM for drugs), the media has been complicit in the cover-up. They refuse to even ask questions about possible correlations between pharmaceuticals and murderous rampages.

Maybe you should check out QuackWatch

The site isn't perfect, and I disagree with Stephen Barrett about the ethics of water fluoridation and a few other things here and there, but it is a good place to start.

If you think Natural News is a legitimate source of medical information, you are a very confused human being. Mike Adams is a charlatan who has no regard for science, evidence, or logic. There is a huge sect of people who don't trust the government or corporations (I am one of them), but unfortunately Mike Adams is taking advantage of them and selling them snake oil and making up anything he wants to push his "natural" lifestyle. It might sound plausible to some people, but snake oil is very appealing to people who want something to believe in and don't have a strong enough understanding of science to refute it. Some of his anti-science rants would be comical if so many people didn't take him seriously.

Also, millions of healthy teeth were extracted because of Weston Price and most of his theories were debunked decades ago.

I am familiar with

I am familiar with QuackWatch...
To be sure there are plenty of charlatans in the so-called natural health "industry", but mainstream medicine is every bit as full of quackery. It's just concealed ]under a lovely veneer of authority and "science."
You have to do the research for yourself and do your best with the information you have (and for now, we all get to decide how we prioritize the credibility of the information out there). If you want to trust medical doctors and mainstream science with your health - be my guest. I have worked for doctors (obstetrics) and I have friends who are doctors/doctors-in-training and they are some of the most close-minded, controlling people I've encountered in life. Their profession requires slavish and unswerving devotion to convention. And most of their practice revolves around masking symptoms rather than preventing illness and healing the whole body.

You can call me a quack, but I think that the people who brought us Thalidomide, Guardasil and GMO's aren't to be trusted with much. To be sure, if I have a burst appendix or a transverse breech baby...I'm more than happy to have a surgeon cut me open. But when it comes to keeping my body healthy and preventing disease, I have trouble putting my trust in doctors.

Please, do as you will with your own health, but I personally think it's a short and slippery slope drinking the koolaid of the mainstream medical industry these days - considering the giant clustershuck that is insurance + pharmaceuticals + biotech + lobbyists + gov't regulations. And we could have a very lengthy discussion about the evils of force and how it is a central figure in treating patients.

And one final note - In an age where doctors are now being called upon to basically spy on their patients for the government, it's not foolish for a person to try and arm themselves with information regarding how to look after their own health.

Proof?

More than half of the commercials I see are for pharmas.

Explain the photographs

of the last few deranged individuals who have been the center of the media frenzy due to their psychotropic medicinally induced murdering sprees. As far as "deceit" you seem to have some type of defensive reaction with regards to pharmaceuticals, got any particular vested interest in them you'd care to share, I've noticed how you rode to the rescue of Monsanto in an earlier post?

If not us than who?

You caught me. I'm a secret agent for Monsanto and Pfizer.

I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you pesky naturopaths.

Are you seriously trying

to say those individuals were not under some type of psychotropic drugs influence?

If not us than who?

How do you know? There is ZERO evidence.

Maybe you have indulged in so much anti-psychiatry propaganda that you are convinced that the speculation is an undisputable fact, but in reality you have no idea about the chemical composition of their blood or the thoughts in their mind. There is no proof. There is no evidence. It is speculation.

Adam Lanza's mother was a prepper. It is highly likely that she was aware of the arguments regarding anti-depressants and it is possible that she didn't medicate her son. There has been a frenzy by the anti-psychiatrists to shamelessly use this tragedy to demonize psychiatric medication, and of course this scenario is completely ignored. Who needs evidence or facts when there is a circlejerk in session?

Your premise (as well as your obvious bias) is seriously flawed

If I witnessed a dog running around frothing at the mouth while trying to attack anything that was alive I'd have no problem with diagnosing a rabid animal without a blood test. Psychiatry has devolved into a pill pushing profession. No attempt to sort out the underlying issues anyone might have, just write a script and direct them to come back in a month. I've personal experience with both of these issues and have dealt appropriately with them. One with a 12 gauge and one by immediately recognizing a charlatan.

If not us than who?

Are you serious?

Back in 2004, a York University Study found that the United States pharmaceutical industry spent $57.5 billion on promotion and advertising. Imagine what they spend nearly a decade later. That kind of money buys influence.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

Advertising? Doesn't every industry advertise?

What makes pharmaceuticals different? Is it because a certain faction despises the entire concept of selling and profiting off of drugs and using them to treat disease? That is what it seems to me.

Yes, they do. If you purchase certain types of magazines

or periodicals devoted to a specific topic (guns, homemakers, teenagers, crafts, travel, bridal, etc.) you will find ads which target that audience.

Pharmaceutical ads (now in print and on tv) are for the general public, most of whom do NOT have any expertise in either chemistry or medicine. This is something recent in American culture. Further, a doctor's prescription is required for those drugs. Why does that industry feel it has to sell it's products to the public, as opposed to the prescribers? Seems to me something else (besides just the kickbacks to the prescribers and legislators) is going on in BigPharma.

Now lawyers are buying ad time on tv, too, Notice how many times they are advertising suits against drug companies for bad medicines? Attorneys don't waste time with pharmaceutical injury suits they can't win.

FYI I stopped taking all prescription meds a few years ago and only take an antibiotic when herbs don't fight the infection (3 times in the past 7 years). I have never felt better in my arthritic, allergy ridden, acid refluxing, body in my life!

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Corporate news

If large pharmaceutical companies pay half your bills for your news show, are you going to really dig in and get to the bottom of anything questionable with pharmaceuticals?

It is pretty simple to see.

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Give me a break.

The only types of modern drugs which can treat illness are antibiotics.

Everthing else is only used to mask symptoms while ignoring the actual cause of disease. Everything.

The goal is to milk you for all you're worth before you die, like a good little human.

Ever heard of diabetes melletus type 1?

It is treated with drugs. Before drugs it was a death sentence.

How about sickle cell anemia? Drugs
We can now "cure" certain types of cancers, particurly leukemias and breast cancer and orostate, with drugs.

Want me to keep going?

Sorry, bud.

What you're talking about are essentially "band-aids", as I said before.

The proper treatments for diabetes, anemia, and even cancer are nutritional adjustments, not drugs. As for T1D, insulin is used to sustain, not to cure.

Treat disease?!? We're

Treat disease?!? We're talking about pharmaceuticals, right? lawl!

All I have is defense weapons.

Now if I actually assault somebody we might be having this conversation but it's more likely I'll deter somebody or defend somebody or apprehend somebody.

As far as high cap mags, wells, tell you what. If Federal agents have to hop around on one foot I personally might consider it especially if they had to wear some kind of festive costumes. Like mariachis or something. Panda bears in bathing suits.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

Back to the way it was at that time?

Ok, good idea as long as this occurs too...

Lets get rid of the MSM too, they are really a highly offensive war propaganda tool and should be outlawed. We the people are being violated with their constant pounding of false information and teachings. They are taking advantage of many innocent people unsuspecting of their seditious desires. We need to protect the people so, lets get rid of the MSM. At the time of the drafting of the first amendment the founding fathers never dreamed of such a propaganda tool such as the media has become today and is so misused and now mostly in the hands of "freedom haters".

If not then we need to keep the semi-automatic rifles on the market and the machine guns also. Let it be as the founders intended, the people should be able to be armed just as the infantry man. The technology involved in both of these freedoms has grown proportionally and for obvious reasons.

Have a blessed day.

The night is far spent, the day is at hand.
And those who have not heard shall understand.

Agreed on getting rid of MSM. How?

What I've been working on is going to MSM sites that still have comment sections and pointing out to people that this media outlet is disseminating propaganda. They are lying extensively to the public at the directions of their advertisers.

As people lose faith in that outlet, they won't watch as much, ad revenues go down, distribution dwindles, etc.

How else to get rid of propaganda outlets?

http://riseforliberty.com/ For May 17 Money Bomb!

Not happening.

I was trying to make a point, apparently made by others as well, that because the technology has improved in weaponry it doesn't mean we should be limited to what was available at the time of the second amendment's creation. If so then why wouldn't the technology restriction apply also to any other amendment?

We agree that MSM is controlled by those who desire to do freedom harm.

The night is far spent, the day is at hand.
And those who have not heard shall understand.

The prez... What has he been

The prez... What has he been smoking?

A

cat turd...

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!