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Jesse Ventura: Sandy Hook Shooting Not A False Flag - Update

Update: Ventura also linked to this point-by-point debunking thread, from Facebook, saying:

I think this is a pretty good point by point debunking of the Sandy Hook conspiracy video. It assembles most of the "smoking gun" evidence and offers pretty solid explanations. Unless stronger evidence comes out I'm going to put Sandy Hook into the "Government takes advantage of tragedy to push an agenda" file. Again, Sandy Hook does not appear to be a false flag operation.

From Jesse Ventura's Facebook Page:

"I dont see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event. Was there investigative bungling and the sensationalist media reporting unverified stories? Yes. Was there confusion and were facts lost and gained in that confusion? Yes. Are there people, even witnesses, looking for their 30 seconds in the spotlight? Yes. Are there individuals and institutions using and shaping this event for their own political agendas? Yes, and we must keep a very watchful eye on those institutions to keep them from twisting the facts of this event. Sadly, everything I mentioned above can, when taken out of context, make one think manipulation is afoot.

Most chaotic events can come across that way. In examining the event, I don't see government hands at work mainly because they would have covered their tracks better. We can't expect them to pull off ...elaborately planned hoaxes while at the same time leaving behind so many easy "smoking guns" for us to find. It took years for independent investigators to uncover JFK. It took years for us to begin scratching out the truth about 9/11. Those of us who study real history, not state sanctioned history, can very easily become just as close minded and biased for conspiracy as those who stand in our way and refuse to accept the truth about our government and the people running it.

It's very easy to fall into that trap, especially when knowing how much of our history and world events are not what they appear to be. So please, do not immediately jump up and yell "Fire!" just because someone makes a YouTube video. Research, research, research. You only hurt our cause by promoting false conspiracies and crackpot agendas. Much like the Birther conspiracy, I am starting to think that a lot of the so called "evidence" of conspiracy coming out about Sandy Hook is designed and fabricated to make us "conspiracy theorists," us truth seekers, look foolish. Why? So that when good people argue against the destruction of our Second Amendment they can easily be painted with the "crackpot" brush."


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Many people on this site

are suffering from a serious case of conformation bias. It's starting to get very disturbing.

You can do SOME research

You can do SOME research behind the computer.

I've seen people post youtube videos showing fb pages of Sandy Hook Victims' Fundraisers being posted prior to the shootings! There's certainly a lot of strange things going on that warrant to be recorded by anyone sitting behind a computer.

If you see a telling news clip it may be worthwhile to record it and keep it for later. It may serve a evidence, for example the police were chasing down the alleged 2nd shooter at Sandy Hook. Granted I wasn't there chasing him down; I could easily record the video of news broadcast.

I don't know any method by which you can escape info being relayed through another person's perspective. That will always happen no matter what. History will always be his story. No way around it.

But doing nothing is bad. We need as many stories as we can piece together in order to corroborate a likely, accurate account.

I used to like JV

before he started to smear other people's work and character, such as David Icke's.

Now all I think of him is that he is closed minded and arrogant.

The man doesn't even realize Mossad and Zionist extremists were integral in orchestrating 9/11. He just thinks "it was the government that did it all", which is not accurate; as only the upper most few people in the bush administration (the neo-con zionist ass lickers) and top people in national security branches knew about the operation. Besides these few and the cooperation between them, it was the Zionist extremists who were behind it to further the world toward collectivist totalitarianism complete with a Rothschild global fiat currency.

Obviously Ventura is either ignorant as a rock or acting as a gate keeper for the NWO so as to not let the real truth come to surface.

to cover their tracks and create the aggression they need to

operate and generate public consent.

Pakistan is effectively under

Pakistan is effectively under their control.

The new Egyptian president is a total shill for the NWO. He has introduced legislation which gives him draconian control over the people of Egypt. The so called "uprising" there was funded by George Sorros.

You confuse

Sorros, Jewish businessmen, Jewish gov clerks, US progressive Jews with Zionists. Some are, some not.

NWO (UN, NATO, IMF) are often against Israel. THINK: Life of EVERY American is pledged to defend Turkey (a NATO member), Japan or Croatia. There is no such an agreement with Israel. The Federal Reserve gives $Trillions in loans to EU banks. There is no such an opportunity for Israeli banks.

Come down from youtube "dark side" thingy.

I can tell you don't have an

I can tell you don't have an understanding of what I am talking about.

To start off, I never mentioned "Jewish bussinessmen, jewish government clercks, jewish progressives" or even the word "Jew"!

True Orthodox Jews oppose the state of Israel and the occupation.
See http://nkusa.org/

Joe Biden the Zionist lap dog himself said in Tel-Aviv, "You don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist" and that statement speaks volumes; partly because he is one of them, or at least identifies with their agenda and helps enforce it.

If you haven't noticed, NATO is becoming the de-facto world army. It was originally intended for the collective defense of North America, but has since been used in operations in the middle east and other places not even on the same continent.

As for the billions of dollars the Fed gives to the EU, this money may be called a "loan" however, the principle can never be paid back and the borrower is left paying off interest to the fed (which is Rothschild controlled) until they no longer can. At that point there is usually another bailout so as to allow the borrower to continue paying interest on the first "loan." This process continues for as long as they see fit, or as long as they can keep the dollar amounts hidden to the public, who would otherwise be outraged. So loaning to the banks is enriching the bakers who own and control the system via interest payments. The primary owners being Rothschilds, who own Israel virtually 100%.

I see opposite what you see

A Zionist is the one who supports Israel as a Jewish state. Nothing more and nothing less.

If Zionists control USA, it means Zionists are superhuman. USA cannot control even a single country like Afghanistan. If Zionists control USA, they would not make their "controlled property" weaker and their enemies stronger - like wasting US $Trillions on nations buildings of muslim countries. Consider reality: USA stopped Israel from bombing Iranian nuclear plant in 2009, imposed Bush's "Road Map" shackles, sold weapons to Jordan, Qatar, Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc.

If Zionists want to punish Arabs, they would simply let them rot under Sharia Law without weapons. Besides, if Zionists can control USA & EU, they can control Arabs and Chinese.

"A Zionist is the one who

"A Zionist is the one who supports Israel as a Jewish state. Nothing more and nothing less."

Right, and they also support the slaughter, eviction, and genocide of millions of innocent Palestinians who are native to those lands. One must be downright ruthless to support people who inflict this savagery.

"If zionists controll the USA they would not make their controlled property weaker and their enemies stronger - like wasting US $Trillions on nations buildings of muslim countries."

You must believe that the nation building is for the benefit of the people of that country? I'm sorry if that's the case..it is not a humanitarian effort on behalf of the USA. This is because, if you really look deeper like as I mentioned in a previous comment, bankers get richer loaning money and it is at the expense of the taxpayer when they print fresh bills. Take into account they "loan" to the US government practically every day. The USA may appear to be building some of these places up, but really, they have no money to even be doing it; US national debt is over 17 trillion. This is what what Ron Paul himself talked about: end the nation building and so-called "foreign-aid" because we're broke! Israel does not need our aid funding; they have one of the most advanced military's in the world! We include in the construction of these places where we are supposedly "building up" always at least one military base too.

"USA stopped Israel from bombing Iranian nuclear plant in 2009, imposed Bush's "Road Map" shackles, sold weapons to Jordan, Qatar, Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc."

Everyone knows Israel has been chomping at the bit to bomb the shit out of and economically own Iran since the nineties. And not just admitted Zionists; Google search: Project for A New American Century (concocted by bush jr. administration)

With respect to Bush's "Road map", the Israeli-Palestianian "conflict"(genocide) is still very much in effect today as evidenced by the recent break in cease-fire a la bombing-style assassination of the Palestinian diplomat carrying a peace treaty that was to be presented in Israel that day.

As for the weapon sales, yeah we do it all the time to fund illegal activities. For example: Operation Fast and Furious; we sold guns to a Mexican drug cartel so it could corner the drug market in Mexico. It backfired though.

"If Zionists want to punish Arabs, they would simply let them rot under Sharia Law without weapons. Besides, if Zionists can control USA & EU, they can control Arabs and Chinese."

It's not about "punishment" for religious reasons (remember, not every zionist is a jew and not every Jew is a Zionist). Rather, it is for economic and geo-political reasons. They can't just march into countries they would like to own, they need to sell us a reason first! (Weapons of Mass Destruction anyone??)

Rothschild money does control China to a large extent, as the reserve currency of the world is the dollar, China's included. However, this does NOT include countries like Iran who still use their own independent currency. Sanctions imposed by the U.S. and its allies that make dollars hard to come by in Iran are deliberate. The sanctions are intended to weaken Iran's economy, which it has done a pretty good job with.

I see the opposite

Check how many muslims USA killed in the past few decades - 1 million or more. Check how many muslims killed other muslims - hundred of thousands. Compare that with ACTUAL numbers Israel killed for the past two decades. If you want to go far back, let's see how many Armenians and Kurds Turks killed or how many Iranians Iraqis killed, etc.

About whom the land of today's Israel belongs to - that is related to group demands and has nothing to do with individual rights. Your arguments are also weakened by the fact that "P" sound is not in Arabic alphabet; Palestinians never called themselves "Palestinians" prior to 1967; "Philistinians" were indeed ethnic group, but was not related to Semites / Arabs.

I think I agree wit this

though I remain open-minded.

wow, the shills and trolls had a meeting on this one

great opportunity to learn the names of some of these cowards so I can flag them in later posts. They'll be back, with different names.


"So that when good people argue against the destruction of our Second Amendment they can easily be painted with the "crackpot" brush.""

Thats exactly what I thought about Jesse after trying to watch a couple episodes of his Conspiracy Theory show. This show made him lose a lot of credibility with me personally.