New Hampshire FUNNY stuff going on NOW!! Here is the scoop!!
From several sources that I talked to directly, and from the URGENT posts tonight ( if you were on) , what I have gathered from tonight’s discussions on the teleconference, I ( my opinion) have discovered some incredible information, that should be world wide news. From what I understand after talking with people close to the ground is that the boxes of ballots from the New Hampshire counties are leaving the counties SEALED, and then arriving at the official re-count station with the seals BROKEN. What is going on within the transfer????? This is a red flag. PERIOD. And after talking to a few other people….their is extensive activity after the normal business hours after the govt building which should have been closed. Take it for what it is, but something is going on tonight after hours…..could be nothing….HMMMM??
Already today the Secretary of State of New Hampshire reported “a Lot of the votes were exactly the same.” He did not tell the entire truth….
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5573
And then this
Obvious reason for higher numbers in machine count
Isn't it obvious? it is to make the hand count districts less valuable, as it seems that machines were installed mostly in the large districts, where statistically Hitlary or any pro-big government had better chances, so by increasing the total numbers in those districts she would have a much larger lead.
Additionally if you look at the percentages, they are fairly similar across all candidates. Such program is much easier to implement instead of re-arranging the counts between the candidates.
Check out Manchester ward 5
The machine counts are all around 10 % higher than the handcount ? - there is no excuse for overcounting so high (for Clinton, Edwards and Obama ) Since it should be easy to total the number of votes with the tally of voters.
SCATTER??
Excuse me- but what is SCATTER - is it ummmmm uncounted votes or something? just curious because at the very end of the vote totals is the candidate SCATTER ..... seems to have really wildly fluctuating votes... or is this where they post the innaccurate vote totals... anyone savvy on this column??
Please explain how we get counts while the Dem re-count only.
What is going on?
We are seeing RP numbers but other posts say the Rep re-count will be after the Dem one.
Very confusing.
My hoped for result was that RP came in 4th not 5th.
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This point drove me crazy yesterday ..
The scoop ..
NH is not an open primary.
Thus registered Democrats are given a Democrat ballot.
They can not vote for a Republican.
However they can write one in the write in section.
There is then a count kept as to how many do so, BUT (big point here)
These write ins DO NOT COUNT as actual votes.
Our only votes are those recorded on Republican ballots.
They are just keeping counts on how many people chose to do what .....
a write in vote does not count?
so a dem could not vote for Ron Paul then in NH?
They would have had to change party designation beforehand
I think the cut off date to do so was in November sometime ...
Many if not most states have similar rules. Thats the advantage to registering as independant.
Dems that wrote in GOP candidate...
to show displeasure with the party?
I spoke with Bev Harris this morning and apparently
our ballots are being open together with the dems ballots BEFORE our recount happens. Some shady characters, not the police as it should be, are picking up the sealed ballots, loading them in a white van and when they are delivered for recount they are showing up unsealed!
This is a very serious situation. The entire election in NH is compromised and where 's the press? And why aren't they all over this? One can only guess...
Bev is putting together footage of whatever they filmed last night and it will be available as soon as they get it all together.
Next is SC. And I bet ANYTHING, the same problem will happen there. Wherever you have Diebold machines, fraudulent activity seems to follow.
Please watch these 9 videos:
Search youtube on "Hacking Democracy 1", "Hacking Democracy 2", so on.
JB
"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
bev harris
what an amazing woman. looks like she's going to have enough material for a sequel (unfortunately).
anyone and everyone in and around the NH area needs to go help them out. listen to the Albert Howard interview I posted below to find out what kind of help they need. ...Also, those near SC need to prepare as well.
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Again, the campaign staff missed golded opportunities
Ron Paul is a very principled man, and he made the call to not initiate a re-count, and that's fine, he can take that high road. But, at the first sign of inappropriate counting or reporting, the campaign should have stepped in big time, with a PR firm and legal council, and blow this thing WIDE open, and guess what, you might see and hear a little more about Ron Paul in the press. And what messege would they be seeing, the little guy, standing up to the big establishment. Isn't that what people are clamoring for? But, as typical of the campaign, they let sand get kicked in the good Dr.'s face yet again.
alan laney
Yeah You're Certainly Right
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But look at DENNIS KUCINICH (a Democrat) he threw himself on the grenade (so to speak) // He took the initiative and forced the re-look, paying for it in more than $$ -- I'm sure. The media hasn't turned him into any hero, they've gone about their daily business of hyping HILLARY, OBAMA, EDWARDS, ROMNEY, MCCAIN, HUCKABEE, GIULIANI, BLOOMBERG
The really important news they for some unexplained reason (??) don't seem to want to report about it. Wait, I think I know the reason -- their bought and paid for owners don't want them to. Business as usual.
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Looking At Democratic Recount Numbers from Hillsborough County
Forgive me if this has been covered already, but after pumping the results into Excel, I noticed a couple interesting points:
1. The net change is negative 198 votes. In other words, the total number of ballots cast in this county decreased by 198 votes when counted by hand. 184 of these votes disappeared from Richardson's tally in Bedford.
2. Votes for Clinton, Edwards, and Obama each decreased by 12 when counted by hand. The worst of these false attributions during the original voting happened in Manchester Ward 5.
Note that these numbers do not include any Republican write-ins on a Democratic ballot (which, incidentally, resulted in an increase of 13 votes for Ron Paul when counted by hand).
I spoke with Bev Harris this morning and apparently
our ballots are being open together with the dems ballots BEFORE our recount happens. Some shady characters, not the police as it should be, are picking up the sealed ballots, loading them in a white van and when they are delivered for recount they are showing up unsealed!
This is a very serious situation. The entire election in NH is compromised and where 's the press? And why aren't they all over this? One can only guess...
Bev is putting together footage of whatever they filmed last night and it will be available as soon as they get it all together.
Next is SC. And I bet ANYTHING, the same problem will happen there. Wherever you have Diebold machines, fraudulent activity seems to follow.
Please watch these 9 videos:
Search youtube on "Hacking Democracy 1", "Hacking Democracy 2", so on.
JB
"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
Has anyone called the FEC?
How about filing a formal complaint with this information/evidience?
What makes you think the FEC isn't part of this?
JB
"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
I would like to see how they go on record
Are they going to enforce election laws or disregard them?
I thought the FEC was shut down
last month over a confirmation hearing dispute. hmmm, I shall look.
here we go,
The FEC is MIA
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-fec13jan13,0,92092...
interesting end to the piece:
"The full-time staff continues to do reporting and analysis work, but without a full slate of commissioners, the FEC can't institute new enforcement actions or promulgate new regulations. That situation is less dire than it may seem: Campaign infractions generally don't get investigated until well after an election is over"
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A major missing link for both original/recounted NH results
The critical missing link for me is how many votes *should* there be in each group. The "expected results"-
How many people signed in to *vote* compared to how many original or recounted votes are published? If counts come in higher *or* lower, that is another indication of total unreliability of the entire voting process (sounds like it has been run by kindergarteners!)
Regarding the slit in "secure" boxes, you wouldn't even need to take anything off - just *stuff ballots in*!
Again, is there any indication for each box of how many ballots are *supposed* to be in it? Is there a control list of all the boxes, so that boxes don't get "misplaced"? Shouldn't that list routinely include how many ballots are in each box with the totals tying to published results?
Wouldn't totals be nice, as well?
It would be really nice to have footing and cross-footing totals, original vs. recount numbers, as well.
A downloadable spreadsheet would also be nice.
How many people are all duplicating efforts to import results into spreadsheets, just to be able to track those totals?
And this is *all* the recounting that was done yesterday, given the many people involved per online photos?
Does anyone know if the people involved with the recount are long-term employees or just "temps" hired for the next few weeks?
When Funny Isn't Funny At All -- There's A Better Word
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Just more of the same old bullsh*t //
Let me ask you guys this:
How many of you still believe in the Easter Bunny? How about Santa Claus? How about Adolf Hitler?
Not asking if you agree with any of them -- just if you believe in them, as in any of them being a 'real thing' in this world we all call home?
Of course we all know the answer to that silly question, evil truly does exist but yet many of us choose not to see the tricks being played out right before our unblinking eyes-wide stare and pretend that everything is fine or that everything's gonna be fine later. We seem to think that our government would never stoop to any dishonesty, especially something as lame-brained as voter fraud. That would be wrong and our government wouldn't do that, wouldn't allow that. People are nice and mean well, and everything is fine and everything is dandy.
Well, you better WAKE THE HELL UP because it's happened before and it sure in the hell seems to be happening again.
That media we (most of us) get our news from, the 24/7 stream of telling us those 'things' we NEED to know (it's from their perspective entirely) tell us we're idiots for even considering such a possibility, that we are the tin-foil hat wearing weirdos to even entertain such a possibility as anything wrong even in the face of obvious WRONG on-going. That means we are nothing short of brainwashed if we accept such 'guidance' if we accept such 'nonsense' when we KNOW DAMN WELL the election is being stolen from us right before our unblinking eyes-wide stare; what else can you call it if we smile, and shrug our narrow shoulders and say to ourself everything's fine and everything's dandy?
Well, it's not --
Certain matters have already been called into question that rightfully should have put the brakes on this election process of ours, and that MSM that has our best interest at heart (excuse me why I go and barf up my breakfast) should be telling us everything that truly is important in this happening // yes // but are they doing that? Of course not, and we accept that also. Some of us do. Some of us flat out don't.
Which one are you?
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Every county building needs to be staked out
Every county building or wherever they are
keeping the 'sealed votes' needs to be staked
out. with video cameras.
New Strategy Needed ... Generals?
My thinking is that we are approaching this wrong.
We are focusing our efforts on securing the central counting location while in reality we should be securing the entire flow line.
I am assuming that if a conspiracy does in fact exist than it is unlikely to be so widespread that it encompasses numerous local town officials. Thus let us assume that ballots remain secure as long as they are held localy.
From there ... who knows ...
What we know is this ...
SOMEONE has selected for us the order that the municipalities will be recounted. Convieniently they have sacrificed the city of Manchester to go first. This is exactly the same place they allowed Nader to recount in 2004. Results basicaly clean again? Hmmm ..
So what gets counted next. Do we as the public have a right to know this so we can be at the select towns and actualy follow the transfer of ballots all the way through or are we meant to just lie back and wait for the van to arrive from where ever someone has sent it?
The counting order should be public info IMO. Is it?
Your Right! Great insight!
I spoke to William Gardner (NH SOS) for one hour last night, insisting, we what to start the Republican count NOW ! HE is the one who has chosen the order in which the towns and cities come in. I told him WE wanted to pick the order in which the towns come in. THIS was the point of contention! He needs a little more persuasion. CALL him, please # 603-271-3242. I'm headed there now with my video camera. We need more volunteers with video cameras @ 71 South Fruit St., Concord,NH.
HEY BUDDY, YOU THINK PISSING OFF THE SOS WILL HELP?
be realistic. your enthusiasm is commendable, but are you helping or hurting the cause? Lets allow the people that are doing the recount to control it. We don't have any say anyway, so if you feel the need to lash out, direct it where it will have a positive result, or at least where it will not have a negative result.
Have You Been On Site? ...
The room they have chosen to count in is basicaly full, wall to wall, now.
Any further activity will only add confusion and for what we are trying to do ... CONFUSION=BAD.
Gardner knows what he is doing as far as keeping the counting show contained.
If we turn it into a zoo it will yield useless results.
However if we cant secure the delivery, what is the point?
We need to pick a town, any good sized town,
and follow it from beginning to end.
If I had to pick one it would be Salem or Plaistow ....
Lets walk it through ...
Grassroots warriors, we need to get ourselves organized!
We need at least an acting judge, a good constitutional attorney, a criminal attorney, independent media people, independent journalists, and I can't thing straight of who else.
We need these high level people volunteering their time to CLEANUP the elections once and for all. They, whoever "THEY" may be, have taken our country by the balls! And it's time we take it back with our brains and our guns! Not to kill anyone but to arrest them ourselves if no one is going to do it!
These elections must be stopped, NOW!!! This really HAS TO BE BIG, it has to stop and shock this country! People must wake up to this! Our most sacred institution, our electoral system, HAS fallen into the hands of crooks! To continue as if nothing is happening is not just foolish but also a very dangerous precedent. These thugs MUST BE STOPPED! AT ALL COST!
We need hard evidence. We need eyes EVERYWHERE. WE need recounts EVERYWHERE because it is going to be RIGGED EVERYWHERE!!!
Your thoughts/comments?
JB
"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
The Battle of Athens, Tennessee
Someone over at TruthNetRadio (http://www.tnrlive.com/) tipped me off to this wonderful piece of American history last night. Enjoy and be inspired.
http://www.constitution.org/mil/tn/batathen.htm
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Excerpt.....
Those who took up arms in Athens, Tennessee:
wanted honest elections, a cornerstone of our Constitutional order;
had repeatedly tried to get Federal or State election monitors;
used armed force so as to minimize harm to the law-breakers;
showed little malice to the defeated law-breakers;
restored lawful government.
The Battle of Athens clearly shows:
how Americans can and should lawfully use armed force;
why the Rule of Law requires unrestricted access to firearms;
how civilians with military-type firearms can beat the forces of "law and order".
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this is worthy
of a BIG BUMP
Sounds like those vets were all Patriots to me
Imagine that...the police being used to forcefully and illegally deny the rights of the people, and the people responding by defending their rights with equal and appropriate force, resulting in the rule of law being preserved and protected.
Where's Davemac to tell us how wrong this was?