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Michael - Will You Pledge Right Now To Never Sell Out - No Matter How Big The Daily Paul NETWORK Gets?

...because supply/demand wise... perhaps you know how lucrative a pledge that could be huh?

Forgive me if I seem out of line... I don't want to see this place turn into another Facebook... ya know?

Just sayin... I like it here... and I think we got a good thing going. I want to spit shake with you and all the other REAL libertarians here who are finally happy to have a MAIN STREAM PLATFORM to pitch our views to the world and widen the dialog 100x more than the general population has ever been exposed to since the day they were born.

We bring truth - in whatever way we stumble on through to it.

We eventually bring truth. So I for one have your back as we make this place go head-to-head with the likes of Fox-News, CNN, MSNBC etc etc... and the rest of the dinosaurs.

There's a new sheriff of news in town. That's the Daily Paul.

Ohhh yeah that's right... the slaves are gettin uppity!

Get your Sheriff to Support The Liberty Amendment!

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I hope no one takes this the wrong way

It's just my honest opinion.

The Daily Paul will probably continue on, but it won't be as vibrant as it once was. Dr. Paul has exited politics and while this site continues as a beacon for not just him, but libertarians, true conservatives, and freedom lovers I don't see it becoming a huge empire, as you imply.

I'll stay on the DP for as long as Michael has the resources to keep up and I'll continue donating to him.

I disagree.

As Ron Paul opened a door for many of us, I see a lot of the membership walking through it to help shine a light on deeper issues. IMO that's the direction we are going. I think traffic levels are very encouraging considering we are not even through the lame duck session.

Young Lady At Work Jokingly Calls Me A "Conspiracy Theorist"

I always rspond by saying, 'well I guess Brutus never conspired to murder Julius Ceasar aye...'

When government murders someone else = Conspiracy

When government murders you = Your dead wrong

Yes

I love the daily Paul. I actually cancelled my subscription a few months ago because I thought I was done with politics but something brought me back. And despite all the crap Vince posts over and over again and how much rambling nonsense he self bumps, I think he's well intentioned. That being said, there should be a forum for garbage thought, like the sandy hook conspiracy idiots and the strawpeople and their fetish, but even if we can't shun these weirdos into submission, the real issues will rise above crazy talk...

I do suggest Michael and the mods start cracking down on multiple accounts, it's pretty obvious that the strawpeople are just a few individuals self bumping in disguise...

Oh, I'm resubscribing today. Thanks mike

Hey!

I'm a proud self bumper, but only on my replies that I especially agree with.

Please don't lump my in with Vince : )

I just paid for the next 6 months.

And I'll probably be subscribed by then and have a half a dozen people in here that can just stick to issues and not use ad hominem attacks to debate views instead of even attempting to establish any facts whatsoever.

Sell out?

What does that mean?

Sell out must be some imagined line of prosperity that if crossed makes some bad.

I hope the good keeper of the Daily Paul finds happiness in whatever form required for his individual needs.
Sell out, sell in, sell some, sell lots...whatever.

Free markets and private property are the foundations of a productive and free society. Thank Michael and all the best to you and yours!

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

Sell out must be some imagined line of prosperity that if crosse

Assumption:
Sell out must be some imagined line of prosperity that if crossed makes some bad.

Notice the technique of placing a fact into your head which has not been established?

For clarification however: A sell out would be someone who takes money over doing the right thing. After watching a long train of abuses of media companies which started out good only get bought by someone bad and then it all turns to hell. (See: Facebook).

I think the question is a fair one seeing as how we may spend perhaps a few thousand hours here over the course of the next year alone bringing the news.

One liberty buck = One thousand collectivist bucks

Since the Liberty movement is based on truth, and truth sells itself, and freedom is part of the homo sapien DNA, it's been estimated that we get a 1000 to 1 bang for our educational work and or donations.

In the aggregate, For every thousand spent by the plutocracy to misinform people into their own slavery, it takes just one libery minded buck to undo it.

Help Mike's chip in people, he only has us.

:)

Oh, yes... I lay awake nights worrying that Nystrom is going to sell out...
LOL!
vince - you are awesome. I am fairly certain that Nystrom has already had the Devil come knocking offering him tasty treats like fame and fortune. The neocons know damn well where the "Central Intelligence Agency" for the r3volution is, and yet the site remains.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

But of course, I was thinking "money" and "power."

In then end, perhaps we all have a "price."
If Boston proves a "bridge too far" and Nystrom is unable to look that beast in the eye, I forgive him. To those who attempt to shelter him, I forgive you, but I do not agree with you. You will never find truth by refusing to ask questions. The "red pill" - no matter what "issue" brought you to the dailypaul, the "red pill" is TRUTH.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

lol

good to hear you say that fishy ;-)

I sat next to an editor on a trip from Germany to DC one..

I sat next to a Middle East editor on a trip from Germany to DC one year. Turns out she runs some arab media outlet in the Middle East.

I asked her "Why aren't you over there running your business?"

Turns out the trip to Washington, DC was what FUNDED her business. She had to come to DC frequently to BEG for money from the US Government. Without that money she would not be in business or have a business.

Let me make something clear... The US Government has numerous ways that they FUND US media companies too... public service ad revenue, FCC airwave protectionist racket, direct grants and a whole host of other specific programs from countless internal agency interests.

These funding sources are not made available to a free organization like the DailyPaul. But they are available to help the finance the needs of the DailyCaller.

This is what we are up against, and I haven't even begun to talk about the global corporate interests that lobby Washington and run the "mainstream media".

We are on our own until such time that the global corporate loyalists including Piers Morgan are pushed back into Canada running from the tar and feathers and nooses.

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Thank you for these bits of ugly truth

Thank you for sharing this glance at some bits of the ugly truth.

Yes, the collectivist leeches who don't even hide their intent to brainwash always more of the people and its youth are the same servile minions and cronies that precisely make up TPTB.

The parasites and crooks control freaks who can't produce anything but more schemes to steal and subject others.

You are so right. Yes, THAT is what a genuine little oasis of truth and unleashed FREE speech like the Daily Paul is up against.

WE are the Daily Paul of true America, right after its creator and owner.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

We are on our own

I like it just fine that way. Nobody hanging all over our coat tails.

I agree. Thank God for Michael!

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God bless us.

Every one.

what a question

its Mr. Nystrom's site, he can do what he wants with it, Its my favorite site currently but if we have to move I would.

Seems a bit emotional?

its Mr. Nystrom's site, he can do what he wants with it,

I do not remember debating who's site it is?

what a question

A question I shouldn't ask? A question that is totally out of the question when we look around and see everything in the "major" category on the internet and TV, radio and newspapers is almost 98% censored?

How old are you son? Apparently you haven't noticed the same thing happen again and again with these media companies coming up with a good model to inform others and eventually Bill Gates comes up with $10 billion dollars and BLAM it's sold out. There just needs to be enough zeros and heck they get em basically for free so...

Micheal would you sell Daily Paul for $10 billion dollars right now? Think about it now... are we all just gonna keep rising up just so high enough to get bought off by the BANKSTERS?

I wonder

how you invision media in a free society where economy and government are separated. The owners will decide whom to sell or not to sell. In fact, in a free society, our current idle talk would be irrelevant. Making money not.

I'm curious

why you would consider this

The owners will decide whom to sell or not to sell.

At all a topic of debate?

I would like to hear

how you see media in a free society. That was the context of my post. Taking the sentense out of context wont make the discussion productive.

On the contrary

Taking the sentence out of context wont make the discussion productive.

When there's a difference of opinion, taking a sentence out of context that we both agree on is highly productive don't you think?

This way you can eliminate it from the discussion and get to the real meat of the issue in contention.

As for "life without advertising" refer to my "newsflashnetwork" idea linking independent media via RSS into a self-funded 1 tier payout network which also funds new sources of media.

I was not being emotional

A single bit. I meant it, It is his site he can do what he wants with it, To ask him to do something for the "greater good" of everyone is doing the same thing we are being subjected to with our government now.

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what are you, CRAZY?

Call me a lunatic, call me a sellout, call me a capitalitst, call me whatever you like...I would sell it for a Billion dollars IN A MINUTE!

Then, if I were Michael, I would create a new website where we would all REGROUP. And, guess what, the new daily liberty site would be where I would go to converse with you all.

After just writing that above I thought to myself...hmmmmm, do I really want to do that?

What a tough decision. Then, I thought, what if MN gave all his subscribers and monetary supporters a little kickback? Lol...just joking Michael!

Bottom line...necessity created the DP. Hell, I've got my own fun little website called potnecknews.com!

We would follow MN forward to another site but here is the downside...150,000 visitors a day is VERY HARD to build up and, I think, is REALLY putting a HURTING on the propaganda machines.

That being said, greed BE DAMNED! Lets fight for LIBERTY and make our stand here.

But, if we decide that then everybody here needs to quit PUSSYfooting around and help manystrom support this site!

Put your money where your mouth is and CHIP IN to preserve this site and your LIBERTY!

What if we, everybody here, put one dollar in for one day...how hard is that? One dollar from everyone one day. Problem solved. Lets have a super Sunday, a SUPERweekend for a super site.

What say you all?

Or else, que sera sera.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Plenty of ways to branch out from here.

We could take over the WORLD before you know it... muhuHAHAHA!

It could be a Daily Paul World Order!

You are right, man, but I

You are right, man, but I think you are getting the wrong idea of the initial "sell out" thing. It's not about selling the site. It's about selling out principals.

You need a flagship.

That's going to be honest and true. Then you branch off of that and strengthen the rest of the movement... we have to face it for the time being the majority needs leadership... until they can become leaders on their own.

No offense to anyone else who may consider themselves the "tip of the spear," but I trust the tip to be right here at my fingertips. The access to the world through the Daily Paul to the average man/woman is pretty awesome at the current time... and could go parabolic with my newsflash network as I mentioned below.

We need satellite sites who would want to get involved. There would be 25-50 in the initial launch. First come first serve if you're interested anyone coming through Daily Paul I could set up a link until launch time (would take me about a month of straight coding to code up the widgit).

My network's benefits would be $3 per member. That would pay to keep me on it coding and other efforts I have in mind. $7 per month per member who joins the network and adds their blog to the site.

If I could gather the interest I could have it ready in 60 days. If you have a blog/site or anything you want to get exposure for send me a PM and I can add your site to the list... in order of course.

Another thing... I would want it moderated so that there is no advertising in the news. There's no need for it if you're already making $7/mo per signup. If we can squeeze the need for advertising out of our news that keeps the news independent.

So would need to initially do the moderation myself until I have enough to hire a couple people full time.

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Vince

You're a good guy. I like you. You've got a lot of passion. How old are you - mid-twenties or so? I like that energy. You've got energy.

I understand what you're saying perfectly. I don't want to see this place turn into another facebook, either. I hate facebook. And this is also what I've noticed: Ads are getting so fucking aggressive everywhere now. Every time you go to YouTube you have to watch an ad now. Some of them you can't even skip after 5 seconds. It sucks.

And all these other sites with popups, and pop-unders. And bullshit non-related sexy ads to draw traffic in that direction. And the tits. All the movie stars and hot dresses - gotta keep people on the site! Go look at the Huffington Post, or the Daily Mail. "Tits. We've got 'em. Keep clicking. Never leave. Go into a zombified state of clicking. We like it."

If this site is to expand, it needs to make more money. I can't run this whole thing myself. That is ridiculous. Does Arrianna Huffington run the Huff Post all by herself, with a few technicians? No.

To that end, the Daily Paul needs a greater income, to hire people, to grow. We're back to subsistence mode.

Just sayin... I like it here... and I think we got a good thing going. I want to spit shake with you and all the other REAL libertarians here who are finally happy to have a MAIN STREAM PLATFORM to pitch our views to the world and widen the dialog 100x more than the general population has ever been exposed to since the day they were born.

Not to pop your bubble or anything, but Daily Paul is far from mainstream.

It is a voice. A loud voice that people check on - make no mistake. Do you know why the Sandy Hook stuff didn't hurt? Because there was nothing else going on. If there were any real news, the conspiracy wouldn't have flourished. The community goes through episodes like that. They are like viruses. It is just part of the nature of the community.

We bring truth - in whatever way we stumble on through to it.

I do believe that is true. Even the conspiracy stuff is a path leading to truth, even if that particular stop doesn't yield ultimate truth.

911 Truth was a HUGE step in that direction for me. I guess that is why I don't mind "conspiracies." I trust in people to be able to discern the truth.

There are conspiracies, and there are events that are not conspiracies. Sometimes it is hard to tell the difference. UFO's and abductions? I never got too much into that one. But whatever you do, chace conspiracies down rabbit holes and whatever you find at the bottom, ultimately, that is one of life's lessons. And you never know how those lessons turn out. Just do what you think you should do.

We eventually bring truth. So I for one have your back as we take this place to go head-to-head with the likes of Fox-News, CNN, MSNBC etc etc... and the rest of the dinosaurs.

I agree. With your first sentence. With your second, I call bullshit, because that doesn't just happen. You have to have a plan to make that happen. Those guys don't just call you up.

What is your plan to make that happen?

There's a new sheriff of news in town. That's the Daily Paul.

I like that vision. I'd like to go kick some ass.

I know this guy!!

Yes! Your comments make my signed t-shirt that much more valuable! ; )

Thank you for what you do. THANK YOU FOR THE HONESTY and not holding back.

God Bless you. You just got my donation yet again.