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The Jumping Jesus Phenomenon & The Singularity

Terrence McKenna (rest his soul) is right at the end of the video below. We're moving into a whole new paradigm, because of technology.

I fear many here, and in this "Liberty" realm, will fail to see the importance of this important development because this community is so narrowly focused on government, and how the government is evil. I get it. I don't argue. I agree. But there is a larger picture as well, and in that picture, government really is a pawn. The larger picture is the development of the universe, and where it is headed. And right now, the driving force of the universe is technology.

The machines have taken control. It is obvious. We made them, then we became mesmerized by them. Soon they will own us. Or whoever owns the network will own us. People here miss that because they are brainwashed to believe:

Private Market = Good
Government = Bad

Ron Paul always asserted that there is a role for government. The question is where do you draw the line. But by man's nature and through observation of history, government seems to be the end result of a free market.

And without further ado, the Jumping Jesus Phenomenon, with Robert Anton Wilson and Terrence McKenna:


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Never trust a guru

who does not know the difference between a singularity and a pole.

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well, introduction of the printing press, computers etc didn't

really change "human nature" per se. We are still born naked and die alone, blending back into the elements of the greater nature. . .


I'm willing to accept Ron Paul's "role for government," but I don't think he has in mind any government like we have experienced. As far as a "free market" leading to government, I have no idea how you can come up with that conclusion, since we've seen nothing like a free market.

In any case, I seriously doubt that governments of violent coercion like the ones we have seen embraced historically are going to help with this trend. Only a circumspect evaluation of technology and some exercise of restraint offer hope.

As I've been preaching here for years: Read the philosophy of Wendell Berry. He is onto the only hope for sustainable society. Maybe everything needed is not there, but there is a kernel.

old power centers can no longer hide this information from us

Hunter-gatherers had to deal with continuously changing environments... so we have it in us to deal with rapid change.

i read somewhere that archeologists found evidence of stones crudely chiseled to make for sharp edged objects suitable for cutting. However, they found in soil sediment about millions years forward in time, evidence of stones chiseled to make for sharp edged objects that were attached to sticks to make for spears.

A million years went by before cave people got the idea to combine sticks and stones to make for spears, but it took only a few hundred years to go from locomotive vehicles on tracks to airborne vehicles.

At this rate, we are behind schedule!
Who's holding up our personal hover cars?

PS: if you check out the subject of astro-theology, you'll hear about how planet Saturn is the inspiration for Satan. Planet Saturn emits radio waves that have adverse affects on earth environment.

if you check out "thunderbolt of the Gods" you'll find out about the electric-magnetic universe. They claim how Saturn was once the sun of our solar system then something happened and we got the sun we have now.... BASED on their research of mythological texts from around the world.

The theory of an electro-magnetic universe provides sufficient answers for anomolies that can not be explained by modern day theories in astro-physics.

From what I understand from the astro-theology guys and the "thunderbolt" guys, these kinds of ideas (INFORMATION) has been around for a long time, however the old power centers can no longer hide this information from us.

Interesting, heard of Immanuel Velikovsky?

Some of what you said about astrotheology remind me of his ideas. Read the bits about Saturn:


fun stuff, even if it weren't ultimately true.

I always found this Biblical verse interesting...

Satan is called the "prince of the power of the air" in Ephesians 2:2.
Many of the latest technologies are powered through the "air"...
I always ponder that description of Satan...it seems to signify the strength of his capabilities - and perhaps the preferred medium. The Jehovah Witnesses (and no, I am not one) believe that Satan was cast out of heaven in 1914. Isn't that an interesting tidbit to ponder.
Not trying to start a religious debate on a technology thread - just playing around with some dots. He did refer to the "Jumping Jesus"..

They are over estimating the impact

of all the informtion. Sure it is increasing, but a lot of the new information will turn out to not be relevant to anything important.

If you look at the science literature, alot is minutae, that adds little, or is information heading down a wrong solution path. There are also questions about the validity of all of this new information people are creating.

Last, there is a limit to the amount of information a human can take advantage of.

Bottom line, there is no proof of a linear correlation between information and human condition at the higher levels of information, and there are a lot of reasons to think that the amount of information will not continue to increase at the same rate.

Physics fizzles

Not much has happened in physics for 30 years. They smashed some hadrons together and found a particle that everyone figured they would find. (That cost billions of euros.) Beyond that, pretty much zilch.

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That is a term we will be hearing a lot more, and folks need to get over the "7of9 is so hot" mentality and remember she was a friggin' BORG - and that is not really where humanity needs to be headed.

Who here will let them put an RFID chip in their hand or forehead?
(crickets, I hope...)
Now then, who here will have a cell phone implanted in their hand because it is SO convenient, and your "Palm Pilot" is your PALM and that is SO COOL! OK, maybe crickets for that, too, but how many sheep will fall for it?
I believe there already is a "new world" and actually, a couple of them. I believe we will see society split, some will worship money and buy whatever trappings of success the media pushes. Some will find new levels of consciousness. Which of these factions will "take over" remains to be seen. I anticipate both will exist for a while, probably to the end of my life.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.


psychological warfare lead by Jewish/Canaanite/Edomite Antichrists.

Jeremiah 2:21-22

21 Yet I had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me?

22 For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord God.

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

I think the same or something similar happens elsewhere


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RIP Mckenna

It's almost overwhelming.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
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