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Sandy Hook: Investigate ONE parent?

My hypothesis is: IF the event is staged, then SOME of the parents MIGHT be actors and some MIGHT be people in on it to usher in gun confiscation or both. I’m choosing just ONE parent to focus on:

VERONIQUE P. HALLER VABNER POZNER(BATES?, YOAK?)

I thought if we collectively put some work on this we can come closer to what is really going on and proving whether VERONIQUE is just a grieving parent (although just has a strange way of showing it) or is someone involved in an incident to bring about a desired result: disarming of the American people (problem, reaction, solution).

CNN interview with Anderson Cooper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rORvvz8-deo

Veronique calls for gun control and a better “understanding of mental health”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5notFK43vxY

What is this? It the same Veronique Haller? She was born in Switzerland and to French parents: http://www.onug.ch/80256EDD006B8954/(httpAssets)/FD4E0F6893A6C6D9C125722F003B82D4/$file/CCW+CONF.III+INF.1.pdf

Is it really possible that two different Veronique P. Pozners live in Sandy Hook; one being 45 and the other being 34? Or are they one and the same?: http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?searc...

Typing Veronique P. Pozner, 34 in the people search gives us Leslie E. Yoak who lived in Colorado near Denver. What?:
http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/preview.aspx?searchtype=...

Funny how she has an older picture of her first three children, and added a more recent picture of herself, but what about her other two children?: http://www.meetup.com/SpiritualiTea/members/2333579/

I can’t really find a good picture of Noah Pozner’s father. I can’t find a picture of him attending the funeral?

Anyone?

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Can you find the CNN original footage?

I've been trying, CNN seems to have removed it. They also have shut down comments on some (maybe all) the Sandy Hook videos.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

Inconclusive

It is also shown here 2:37 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rORvvz8-deo

But couldn't find it CNN's current online video here: http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2012/12/22/ac-...

Have asked JrStudi0s if he would look into this.

Insanity is progressing

Nothing sticks, more idiotic hypothesis come forward.

CIA & other government agencies would never plan a covert operation with so many "actors." CIA may be stupid, but not as stupid as many DP readers. Secret agencies are trained professionals. Bringing many actors is simply not a good covert operation.

Since some feel ashamed that Adam was a Catholic (as Leon Panetta and Janet Napoletano) and Vatican backs gun control, finding a Jewish parent is such a relief. Now we can bring Rothschilds in as another crazy DP poster has already done. Filth.

There are so many

idiots here. 11 people voted you down for simply pointing out there insanity.

The real sad thing is that there are 3 DPers who live near the school and they have said this really happened.

Looking at the Testimony

So many people. So many opinions.

Say Ref, can you direct those of us who haven't been here much lately to the DPers who live near the school -- where they posted about their views on this? I'd love to read their remarks.

Thanks.

Go back to whatever rock that you crawled out from

Sheesh!

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

I will give you benefit of the doubt.

I am bad about reading a post and commenting before I read other comments. I do hope you have read the rest of the comments and checked those links. I noted your need to do research on the Rothschilds in another thread, and I repeat that. But longhair has done your research for you, do look at his evidence. His search for answers is hardly "filth" - he brings very legitimate concerns to light. Disagree? Then get digging and find the answers, see what you find. Debunk him or prove him right to your own satisfaction, but do not fall prey to knee-jerk reactions.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

And who is this...

Ben Vabner?

His facebook page says that he is a brother to Danielle and Michael Vabner (Veronique's two oldest children).

He wan't mentioned as being related to Noah or Veronique - I think.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

It seems he would be the half brother of Veronique's two older

children?

http://www.geni.com/people/Ben-Vabner/374043203070012314

Father: Reuben
Mother: Lisa Freedman

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

I'd forgotten she's the one who got a tattoo the next day

after the shooting - even though it's against her religion. This article says Noah's father (Lenny) wasn't present because after sitting shiva with the family, he needed to get away and went to Florida.

Veronique was born in Switzerland to French parents who raised her in Scarsdale, N.Y. She converted to Judaism in 1992 when she married her first husband, Reuben Vabner. Her second husband, Lenny, is also Jewish; he is originally from Brooklyn and works in information technology. In 2005, Lenny and Veronique relocated to Newtown from nearby Bethel. (They had previously lived in Westchester.) They had three children in tow: Sophia, an infant, and Danielle and Michael, from Veronique’s first marriage. Sometime in 2013, Veronique says, she plans to move her family again, this time to the Seattle area where much of her extended family lives. They will be taking Noah’s body with them.

http://forward.com/articles/168277/noah-pozners-family-remem...

God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it. – Daniel Webster

WHAT?

got a tatoo the day after the shooting. Now that is creepy.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Got a tattoo the day after her kid was shot in the head

"At the center of everything is Veronique. On her right wrist is a tattoo she and Danielle both got the day after Noah died: a small pink rose flanked by two angel wings with Noah’s name spanning the space between them, and his birth and death dates beneath."

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/168277/noah-pozners-family-remem...

I suspect this vil be used a proof that her kid was killed later on.

Relatives work in financial or investment management

Ivar Haller
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ivar-haller/31/715/226

Natalie Cornaz
http://ch.linkedin.com/pub/natalie-cornaz/14/420/41b?trk=pub...

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Bump

McDump

She is also the most outspoken parent with an agenda

Jan. 17, 2013 ~ State Police updated the families of the Sandy Hook shooting on the status of its investigation this week, but one parent expressed dismay....

http://www.greenwichtime.com/newtownshooting/article/Familie...

Yes,

the Agenda is gun control, but it is also "mental health"

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Wow.

Are they getting sloppier in their covertness, or is it because information is easier to find and more people know where to look?

I'm not sure if they are sloppy or

they want us to find out.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Relatives are bankers or worked at banks:

Dirk Duytschaever - Arab Bank
http://www.intelius.com/results.php?trackit=65&ReportType=1&...

Reuben Vabner - Vice President of Bank of Scotland
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/reuben-vabner/8/36/52

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Very strange - what did she do - change her name from

Leslie Ellen Bates? Intelius also shows an alias of Leslie Ellen Doak. Based on the memo listing the family members, it looks like the 34 year old and the 45 year old are from the same family. She certainly has had a variety of names! Very, very odd.
http://www.intelius.com/results.php?ReportType=1&formname=na...

God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it. – Daniel Webster

You mean Yoak, right?

Yes, I wonder if there is something to that?

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

yes, sorry! Wonder why we can't edit comments any more?

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God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it. – Daniel Webster

You cannot edit after someone

You cannot edit after someone has replied. Just before. Has always been this way.

on the meetup link you have posted

she is also member of the single parents meetup.

"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself within" W. Durant

You're right..

She belongs to 4 different meetup groups

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Her mother's info on My Life doesn't mention her?

http://www.mylife.com/c-458859053

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

This Link

took me to "service unavailable" ???

Just found this...

http://media.nbcbayarea.com/documents/Pozner+Family+Memorand...

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Daddy won't play along? Someone needs to find HIM.

Odd the way she sends this from Noah's "maternal" family. Odd the way she is portrayed as married yet still belongs to a divorcee meetup and a singles meetup. Longhair, you've been doing some serious bunny hole excavation!

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...