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I Am So Frustrated

I feel so alone out here in lala land where my neighbors, friends and relatives insist on living.

You know, the land where everyone has their heads in the sand and don't know or want to know about what is REALLY happening around them. They constantly complain about how bad things are but if I try to tell them WHY things are like that they get a glazed look on their faces and go blank. I send articles to people or links to eye opening videos but NOBODY will read or watch them. I MEAN NOBODY! What's with that?

You would think that out of all the people I know I could get at least ONE to pay attention. Is it something I am doing wrong? My better half gets it and I get it but nobody else we know gets it. When I ask these people why they won't at least read the articles or watch the videos they say they don't want to know or they say they don't have time. (Yet some will have time to call me up on the weekend and want to talk about nothing for an hour at a time)

Anyway, I keep trying to wake people up to no avail. It's not like I jump in with overwhelming stuff. I never start the conversations on these things. I wait until people are bitching about having to work 3 jobs to pay their bills or why their kids are being put on meds or why they have so many issues at school etc and try to slowly introduce them to the truth. They STILL won't listen. GEEZ. Is it me?

Excuse me for venting but like I said, I am frustrated at the apathy of people these days.

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Shooters, Preppers and Gardeners not always liberty minded.

Bikers, Hikers and Exercisers might be interested, in the mean time getting ready, growing food and getting is shape makes it possible to kill to birds with one stone.

Free includes debt-free!

Ya....

There isn't much you can do. I want to grab every person I see by the shoulders and shake them until they wake up, but I can't. People, like you, may or may not wake up. All you can do is try....

And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

Imagine..

how Ron Paul felt for nearly 30 years.

Keep your head up. Our movement continues to grow. We may hit critical mass soon enough.

Ive been involved in our movement since 07 and have posted similar threads too. Don't let it get you down. Focus on you and your family. Prepare. Keep learning. Nobody woke me up.. it happened on it's own.

I have nearly 1700 FB friends. Although I have helped broaden a few minds, most worry themselves on whatever viral video or funny picture is posted. I wouldnt say I gave up, I just realized its better for me to focus on me. I still post my favorite news but I am less involved than I once was.

Hope this helps. :)

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

I understand!

I lost friends over trying to wake them up! It can be lonely but you have us!! Try to find the closest Ron Paul group via meetup? That hopefully will help. Like minded individuals may be a far drive but worth the company.

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What would you do if you could not fail?

Do that. There's nothing that you can't do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hltubpFXdI0

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Asher Roth is dope..

I dunno if you are hip to Brother Ali, but this is the song that got me hip to him. Very inspirational, real hip hop.

I think this will relate to this thread too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4oO0mvm1w

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

No.7's picture

oh yeah

I think "Uncle Sam God damn" has clever lyrics and an awesome flow. Brother Ali has soul

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Brother Ali

Uncle Sam Goddam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ

This song is what our anthem could be. hahaaaa Its so damn good.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Today I told an anti-gunner

Today I told an anti-gunner about what the republic is and why democracy is just as evil as oligarchy. He knew democracies have been tyrannical, he has just completely lost faith in our future and compared us to Rome. I told him I believe we are slipping into a democracy like Rome did, but we don't have to fall. The difference today is we live in the Information Age. The Internet gives me hope.

Also, young people (college age plus a few years) are getting their information more and more from the Internet. The young people are more likely to question the MSM. Young people give me hope.

I've found it very helpful to explain what the republic is, and that china is not a republic despite the name. What the rule of law means, why the Sheriff is so important to the republic.

Have you seen this? It can help you explain these things to others.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-MzxC8Mqupw

The founders would be ashamed at us for what we are putting up with.

I make this list...

And hand it out, all the time...
Google this...
1. NDAA
2. Leon Pannetta tells congress he gets war authority from the UN
3. HR 107 2012
4. Ron Paul cheated
5. infowars.com
I give it to them and just hope 1 thing upsets them...I feel your pain bro...I live in Canada, these people are morons (About the same as Americans)

Bad food, worse weather, please rEVOLution the states so I can bring my family back home!
Rosa Koire for for President!

Hmmm.... maybe #5 is too big of a leap for them.

Try 5. dailypaul.com instead.

I go with the obvious first 4..

Then I throw in #5 just to potentially expose them to the stuff they will hear there...I've woken up a few I believe...Dailypaul.com is for those of us that already know...I think of it as the awakened person's news source...Definitely not the Fudgereport...

Bad food, worse weather, please rEVOLution the states so I can bring my family back home!
Rosa Koire for for President!

Ron Paul WAS cheated

perhaps better wording? :)

Like he said...

I think the wording fits...People gotta be tricked into reality sometimes...

Bad food, worse weather, please rEVOLution the states so I can bring my family back home!
Rosa Koire for for President!

Nope, that wording is perfect.

Remember, you're dealing with people who aren't with us yet. Let them think "Ron Paul cheated" is about Ron cheating. At least they'll be really paying attention when they find out VEEEERRRRY differently!

"Is it something I am doing wrong?"

"Is it something I am doing wrong?"

Possibly, but I'm not sure.

I find it helps to begin with something that you KNOW they consider to be true and something they'll want to talk about, and since they're complaining about money and remarking on 'how bad things are getting', start there. Invite them to participate in the discussion rather than preaching at them, because that's when you start seeing that glazed look in their eyes.

It's hard, especially when dealing with people who don't want to be preached at, but trust me, they want to talk, they WANT to preach, so let them talk, listen, test the wind, and then start hinting at the underlying truths.

I Don't Preach

Honestly, I don't. I usually just try to get them to watch short videos that explain how the FED works or some such thing. I can't pry most of them off their phones long enough to even watch a video on the computer. Maybe I should just send the videos to their stupid phones!

skippy

Agree with the above.

Sometimes people aren't ready for the big mindblowing stuff... You can't expect someone to be excited about the 8-note dominant scale and its applications when they don't know where middle C is. Find common ground, plant a seed, but don't preach. Most people including myself have logged years of interest and research in addition to our experiences to see the world this way.

Getting passionate/preachy is usually best when the other person holds some sort of opinion already.

Unfortunately, most people are too busy working like dogs and worrying about next month's rent to give a shit about who is screwing them and from which direction.

Yeah I know

Most of the people I try to talk to are working a lot but yet they find time to play non-stop with their smartphones. I really don't preach though. I hate being preached to myself. My father-in-law was a Baptist preacher and drove me nuts with it!

skippy

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I hear you, skippy d!

We are also surrounded by relatives & neighbors who belong to progressive / liberal / glen beck / neocon warmongering camps. If RonPaul didn't run for presidency and if we didn't meet like-minded liberty activists at local RPmeetups & campaign events, we would STILL be whispering about FedRes, non-interventionist foreign policy and such only between two of us.

I am hoping that our local pro-Second Amendment grassroots movement can unite many of us from different political groups. Maybe we'll finally be able to talk passionately about it with our progressive / liberal close & dear family members :-)

Perhaps you can seek out such groups, too :-) Good luck.

I never try to wake anyone up, then I can't fail.

After hearing this I realized https://mises.org/media/2477/Isaiahs-Job

The Remnant would find me if I have something to say.

Starting brushfires of liberty may just mean setting a spark. Someone else may come along and fan into flame the spark you set.

Peter Schiff was right and they laughed at him.

Years later they have proof that he was right.

Try something different?

Good Luck!

Free includes debt-free!

This is the sort of thing that almost makes a believer out of me

It's as if there's a hidden power actively interposing between people's souls and the truth. A dark power that is, which subtly and spiritually threatens them when they are confronted with uncomfortable notions.

It's not a matter of 'i don't believe you'. These people seem to be willing to believe, but would rather avoid the question than know the answer.

In reality, I think it's that fear of social pressure. People are programmed to fear some imaginary bully that will call them crazy, weird, or a nerd were they to explore alternative ideas.

Public schooling at its best.

Try being SUBVERSIVE

Bring things up in a subtle way which can stimulate their subconscious. If you plant a seed and let it germinate, you may find they are more open minded about things over time.

For instance, if you want to bring up 9/11 truth theory, when the conversation permits bring up 9/11, and then add "you know, what I can't figure out is how that 3rd building, tower 7 collapsed all by itself. No plane hit it, no great fires to speak of. It's just the damnedest thing."

You might also add: "If you find out anything about that tower, let me know. It plum just doesn't seem right somehow."

This will arouse their curiousity without seeming too forward or overbearing.

Sounds familiar to me also

Btw, this reads like out of Huxley's "Brave New World"
Society seems incrementally surreal to me these days..

However, keep the faith!

All the info about everything

All the info about everything going on can be far too overwhelming for the average person who is too busy with a low attention span and already suffering information overload from other sources.

It will remain continually difficult, maybe impossible, to drop all this knowledge on people. Some of it is so unreal that it is hard to believe or even follow.

I don't think you should consider it your job to fully educate people. Rather, consider your role to introduce people to a few ideas... open the door of knowledge to them. Don't explain everything or overwhelm them.

All you should really need to do is introduce a small amount of very powerful information and let that be what beings their process of waking up.

Things like the way the government calculates inflation... people are usually quite surprised to learn that food and energy are no longer included by the gov.

Or how only certain people are counted by the gov with the unemployment numbers. If you are unemployed for too long or are "too old" the government no longer considers you unemployed because they do not count you as part of the employable population.

Get people thinking for themselves. Get them asking questions like why would the US government do such devious things when they are supposed to be watching out for us.

One thing I like to do is ask soldiers who decides when we go to war. Usually they say the President, which we all know is incorrect. Ask why they believe that. Then ask if they swore an oath to our Constitution. Then you point out how only Congress can take us to war...

Oh, by the way, do they know when the last time Congress declared war? In the 1940s. So, if that's the case, why is it that the US gov has sent so many of our people into harms way without declaring war as required by our Constitution?

Get people thinking on their own... some of them will follow the rabbit trail into the rabbit hole... force feeding this info doesn't work well, nor overwhelming people with it. Just get them curious about real issues that challenge what they previously believed in.

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It seems to be a generational thing.

The 1940s were a time of INTENSE propaganda and mind control. People raised during that time would go on metal collection drives for the war effort. Such conditioning is nearly impossible to break through.

Teens in the 50s and early 60s had the indoctrination forced on them by their parents. It wasn't until the late 60s and 70s that true rebellion against the system kicked in. Having the wars of that time televised helped cultivate a healthy distrust of the state.

Along came the 1980s and a sluggish economy combined with the punk rock culture. It wouldn't last, however, and the kids of the 90s, while aware at some level that their government was corrupt, were content to not speak up as long as they got their cut of the phony paper wealth.

The kids nowadays are starting to be more receptive to truth, obviously thanks in large part to the internet and the ubiquity of truth.

The most important thing in my mind is to continue to take a stand on what you know is true, understand where and when people are coming from if they rebut your info, and trust in the fact that time will prove you right. Remember 'a prophet is not recognized in his own land' but at the same time prepare yourself for the day that those who wouldn't listen before seek you out for your advice.

Pandas eat bugs.

ps a word of encouragement from an old-timer

About ten years ago I was at the Midwest Renewable Energy Fair www.the-mrea.org and some 'old guy' just walks up to me out of the blue and says 'I gotta admit it - looks like you kids were right after all.' I don't know exactly what we were right about, but it goes to show that minds CAN be changed...

Pandas eat bugs.

I feel for you and can

I feel for you and can totally relate! For years I have felt like a stranger in a strange land when I have to go out and deal with the public - I have become an observer and a forced participant in a world in which I no longer care to participate. Very much like the matrix...

A few months ago I went to local street fair where some local bands I like were playing for free. As I looked at the people passing by, I realized they were all clueless and my imagination went off and all I could see were walking skeletons...I felt sad and helpless becuase I too have tried for years to reach people, just like you have, and, although I have reached a few,I have often wondered if it has been a grand waste of time and effort.

Frankly, I think the reality is just to damn scary to face so they choose not to even contemplate it. It's as if by doing so would give the message you and I bring validation and make it so, make it true. And it is that decision to refuse to see, that will be the death of them...hense the reason I imagined them as walking skeletons.

But I still can't stop trying to reach people, but I use a different tactic now - Instead of telling people what is going on,I let them talk and talk about an issue and then ask seemingly innocent, questions that make them stop and think and perhaps draw a new conclusion all on their own. Time will tell if this tactic will be more sucessful.

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

I only have a small handful...

...of people who I can really talk to. Others know things are wrong, but listen only to the likes of Rush or Fox. Then the others that you talk about(I call them the "tip-toe through the tulips" people) only want to talk about the latest t.v. show or latest fashion. I take it that many just don't want to know exactly what's wrong because it's too painful...most people sense that something is horribly wrong. They don't want to face reality.

I try to find a avenue to put little things in a "normal" conversation. A lady was talking about her pregnant daughter flying to visit her...BAM! I asked her if she took the "opt out". She said no, but she wasn't certain. By time I got done speaking with her...she had made her daughter go back home without going through the scanners and she completely knew why. Every little crack & crevice you get...take it! That's all you can do. Knowledge is power and your words are not in vain.

And yes, it's frustrating when you ask them if they watched or read what you sent them and they say no...not yet...or no time.=/ It happens to me as well. I can get my neocon friends to listen the most because they are half way there thanks to Obama's openness in his socialism.

The whole point of a debt based economy is to enslave

Everyone and everything is enslaved and there is a pervasive fear of challenging their masters and the system they are in debt to.

You have a lot of these fools that are afraid to speak out, question authority, etc as a result.

Fear of losing a job, unable to pay the debts.

Fear that the government might target them if they are too vocal.

A lot of the fear is justified.

How many liberty people have the good paying jobs and businesses that they possessed say in 2006 before Ron Paul's first run to be the Republican Nominee?

Most of us have been put-out by the system in at least one manner.

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