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Here we go again. NM Teen arrested in shooting of 5 people.

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) -- A teenage boy fatally shot two adults and three children at a home near Albuquerque, authorities said Sunday.

The boy, who police believe to be about 15 years old, was arrested and booked on murder and other charges in connection with the shootings Saturday night at the home in an unincorporated area 10 miles southwest of downtown Albuquerque, Bernalillo County sheriff's spokesman Aaron Williamson said.

The victims' identities haven't been released, and the boy's motive and connection to the five victims weren't immediately known. Williamson said investigators were trying to determine if the victims were related. ...Investigators also were seeking to determine who owned several guns that were found at the home, one of which was a semi-automatic military-style rifle.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEW_MEXICO_SHOOTIN...

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Another where guns didn't

Another where guns didn't seem to be locked up by the parents. No word yet on weather the shooter was on any type of prescription medication as have been most shooter of this type of killing.

Bob Marshall

Were

Psychotropic drugs involved here too?

GOT DAMNIT

GOt damnit man ... not again. I cant wait to hear what alex jones has to say about this shit. This is like something out of looney toons or something

I both like and hate AJ

On the one hand he is honest and truly does care. On the other he is usually waaaay off track in his accusations and doesn't serve as a very useful voice for the liberty movement with his crackpot theories.

The worst part is that these days, there is no middle road upon which we can tread: Either you're a full throttle gun-grabbing liberal out to save people from themselves or a gun-toting conservative out to shoot any man crossing his lawn. There is no voice for the simple Americans that want guns AND safety through personal responsibility.

It's tragic really that we've partitioned our world into the red ants VS the blue ants. People are capable of so many more colors. :(

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

Why is he being charged with

Why is he being charged with child abuse leading to death for the children? Why are there different levels of murder? Is not murder, murder? Just another way we create bias in the justice system. As if the murder of a child somehow makes them more dead than the adults he killed. Or the murder of a gay person is somehow more painful than the death of a fat woman. Murder is murder and the only charge should be MURDER. All murders should be equal. The only circumstances that matter are the intent and reason of the criminal. Did they commit murder to protect themselves, or for some other reason? Why is the life of one more important than the life of others? They are not in my mind.

Motive Matters

Yes, the victim shouldn't matter: all victims had a right to life taken. It really doesn't matter who they were.

Homicide, justifiable homicide, negligent homicide, involuntary manslaughter, manslaughter, all relate to the intent of the person held responsible.

Age also matters. Children are supposed to be treated differently because their brains are immature, and they don't have full understanding of their actions. It makes no sense to charge any child as an adult, since, obviously, they are not mature, as demonstrated by their actions. Yet, prosecutors use the evidence of their immaturity as a reason to treat them like adults.

There are many adults who should probably be charged as children! Executing adults with the capacity of a 7 year old, is crazy.

However, when politics comes into it, children get charged as adults, and that's unconstitutionally ex post facto (since they committed the action as a child, but were retroactively subject to adult consequences).

This is why we must serve on juries, the one place where one vote really counts in defense of our rights.

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Shame on the media

and Obama for bringing children into this adult conversation. This is could be the deliberate result of copy cat baiting on the media's part who hasn't reported ONE SINGLE TRUTH yet in the Sandy Hook case. We could take some major players down with this Sandy Hook hoax. Stay focused, now it IS for the kids!

What Is Going On Here?

Somebody should do a historical probability equation on these shootings. This is just too bizarre.

Unlike some here on the DP I'm massively cynical of the great majority of conspiracy theories I hear being tossed back and forth. However, even someone like myself can't help but look at the data and sense that something is rotten in Denmark...

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

Copycats

How old are you?

I'm 57. These things go in waves. This happens all the time.

For a while, everybody's hijacking planes. Then they're jumping off bridges or exploding pipe bombs. It's a cry for help, and when someone with issues sees how much attention these perpetrators get, they want the same.

Maybe, as TV continues to lose its grip, it will be less of a problem, but I don't see any conspiracy. This is the natural result of copycats following the blueprint before them, and they tend to stop when the public stops paying attention to them.

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I'm a bit younger admittedly

In my lifespan this trend just seems unusual. Thank you for you comment: I always heed the words of people with wisdom based of personal experience since it tends to be the best advice. The question I suppose I should be asking then is how can we hold the media accountable for the glorification of these people when that is their job?!

It's a sad state of affairs no matter how you look at it and I admit that my hopes for the future are growing pretty bleak these days.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

Media and statists fault

The only way this stops is if the media stops giving these people attention. It normally would have happened, but the gun controversies is keeping it alive. We can thank the statists for this one.

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Sigh.

Sigh.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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MSM will of course exploit this no matter what gun was used

Meanwhile, unreported by the MSM; the 3,000 civilians killed since 2004 by U.S. drones. That's about one Sandy Hook tragedy a month. Imagine if this was reported and discussed the same way Sandy Hook has been.

Where is this news provided? Iran's Press TV.

http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/284484.html

Excerpt;

The Obama administration is nearing completion of a detailed counterterrorism manual that is designed to establish clear rules for targeted-killing operations but leaves open a major exemption for the CIA’s campaign of drone strikes in Pakistan, U.S. officials said.

The Washington Post reported Saturday that the carve-out would allow the CIA to continue bombing suspected militants for a year or more before the agency is forced to comply with more stringent rules spelled out in a classified document that officials have described as a counterterrorism “playbook.”

Pakistani sources say U.S. drone strikes have killed nearly 3,000 civilians since 2004. They say the strikes have only targeted less than 200 militants over the period.

After further search for CIA playbook, only two foreign reports about it other than the one above:

Telegraph did also report the CIA "playbook."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/9814394/D...

And from a Pakistan source: US draws guidebook for targeted killings: report

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/01/20/news/national/us-...

Google the words "New Mexico Teen Kills" and you will see a ton of stories from multiple mainstream sources already.

Foreign civilians killed don't matter to American media.

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just like others have said before

If the media keeps talking about this crap happening and sensationalizing it more kids will see it as a chance to act out. How many times now is it this has happened since sandy hook? Four or five? One was stopped before it happened in Alabama. The other in Cali the kid with the shot gun. This one.... I find it hard to believe there are so many copy cats acting out. I don't believe in coincidence.

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a desperate distraction

Attempt from Sandy Hook. Keep the pressure on Sandy hook and pray that the Ballistics investigation turns something up if this is indeed a distraction tactic. Lemme guess, the boy was acting like he'd been brain wiped. We won't get much from this one, no witnesses, no chopper, it's all up to the boys in blue.

Don't hold your breath for results...

From any investigation, there is no investigation, it's called a cover-up or just plain hoax.

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Boy that was FAST

Probably FURIOUS.

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Your Headline is Misleading...

The article doesn't say he used a semi-auto...it says that among other guns found in the house, one was a semi-auto. Please use facts from our side anyway! Geez...you're no better than the MSM,

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The link changed since I greated the post

I normally always copy and paste what I create as the title to my post but when I went back to check the orginal post it has since been updated. I changed the title but unless I just totally screwed up I would not have indicated the kid used the semi automatic unless thats what it said. Maybe I screwed up.

Calling me no better than the MSM is merciless. lol I'll doublecheck myself in the future.

forgive and forget

At least he didn't call you Piers Morgan lol.

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Media loves this stuff....

Big money in these stories because we all like to read them. We're supposed to limit our guns, but the media isn't supposed to sacrifice anything and limit their coverage.

So the nutcases are sitting around seeing these stories, and there will be more shootings.

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Well said

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1st thing I want to know is what psycotropic meds he was on?

...or abruptly stopped taking.

Do SSRIs only cause suicides and mass killings?

Or do they increase other violent crimes like rape and assault?

Do they increase spousal abuse or child abuse? What about in prisons? The medications given to prisoners are monitored. Are prisoners on SSRIs more violent than those that aren't?

Every time there is a killing the anti-psychiatric medicine crowd comes out in force. Besides SSRIstories and Youtube videos by Peter Breggin and CCHR Scientology propaganda, I have yet to see any explanations put forward.

From what I have seen and read

the pattern appears to be that young adults on the SSRIs are the ones that have the most pronounced behavior changes of those prescribed them.

They lose the ability to empathize; They become more like politicians. They look to hurt themselves by cutting and self-mutilation. Young women tend to become suicidal. Men seem to want to take as many people with them as possible. Those that have survived one of these mental breaks report they don't remember them. I believe the Colorado movie theater shooter was reportedly questioning why he was in custody the day after. I saw a video of a boy who took a shotgun to school and threatened to shoot people, but was talked out of it, state he did not remember what happened.

Some of the sleep aids - like the one with the green glowing butterfly TV ad - are reported to cause those taking them to raid the refrigerator, drink alcohol, drive, paint the front door, seek sex with strangers, and do other things they do not remember afterward.

Sometimes the SSRI side effects happen when the person starts the medication. Sometimes it happens when the medication is changed. Sometimes it happens when the person stops taking the medication.
I watched a video of guy who claimed to be a psychiatrist state the SSRI drugs act as a chemical lobotomy. People on them lose the ability to feel the higher emotional functions that make people social.

The young man in this case killed his sleeping step mother, then his younger half brother, then his two younger half sisters. His father was not home at the time. When his father did arrive, he ambushed and killed him too. All indications are the killer had mental problems which included murder-suicide fantasies. Will we find out about his medication history? I doubt it. The focus will be on the rifle he used.

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That is my second question.

My first one would be... did it even happen ?
Someone on here posted this last week http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8&bpctr=1358723973
What do you all think of this ?

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+ 1

Makes me wonder what meds Obama is taking.

:)

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Oh, he's

on this:

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

your link has been "disappeared"

can anyone else confirm this? or is it just my comp?

It was just

a joke, hon. The link was to King Juice. I screwed up the hyperlink.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift