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Abolish congress and replace with internet voting?

What does everyone think of this idea? The rest of the constitution, separation of powers, etc. would remain intact. Just get rid of congress and instead have everyone either vote directly, or for those who don't want to vote directly, they can allow a representative to vote for them.

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Too much room for switching votes!

as done during the election. Opens door to dictatorship.

What I wouldn't mind seeing

is the amount of taxes I pay, and a list of where it would go. I would delegate where my tax money goes, and those that don't get it ...well sucks for them.

maybe they ( the lobbyist)

would lobby me instead, or my community to try and get taxes to there cause.

The same people who elected

The same people who elected Congress and the President would be responsible for policy? That can't be good.


the voting process wasn't rigged. After all, people who are accountable to themselves are more responsible in proportion. In this case it would be... what percentage?

They would have to

include an option that automatically votes NO for me on everything.

What have we learned about

What have we learned about democracies? It doesn't matter if you are casting lots or pushing a virtual button on your smartphone... the end result is the same. The US Federal government is a presumed constitutional republic (or a "corporatist constitutional republic" if you prefer) and if it ever becomes a direct democracy, run for the hills as fast as you can.

And who would propose the

And who would propose the bills to be voted upon???

"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

The proposed system

A centralized system (that will inevitably require a central body to rule on any final decision) in which individuals have little to no input on how the majority (governed by their wisdom) decides how to allocate the resources of others.

In this beautifully "designed" democratic "system" will all involved put away their selfish behavior and work rather than rest?

Will they make decisions based on the best interest of the whole rather than vote themselves benefits?

Will they look to the state (system) for sustenance as thought it flows from some imaginary lacteal vein?

Or will they turn from it's promises and concentrate on fulfilling them?

How do you think you would stack up in a democracy that consists of just you and the people in the video below?


My so called "Representatives" have never represented my

interests. Tell me again why I need one.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

Only to Preserve the Illusion

that you, a sheep, have a say, when it comes time for you and the wolves, who outnumber you, to choose what's for dinner.

If there was direct democracy . . .

who would the lobbyists pay their re-election bribes to?

Famous Quote from Justice William O. Douglas

"The Constitution is not neutral.
It was designed to take the government
off the backs of people."

Switzerland Has A Tradition of Democracy

The problem is CENTRALIZATION, not democracy.

This is not

a democracy.

Thanks for the insight. But

Thanks for the insight. But our legislative branch does work as a democracy.

Thanks to those of you who

Thanks to those of you who made thoughtful, intelligent responses. As it is now, our government isn't working. I thought that this was a very interesting idea that could be used in many different ways and at many different levels.

If and when our government collapses, we will need ideas, and they have to make sense for the world we live in.

I'm curious of your opinion on my proposal

in another post. I linked to it below and I think, regarding to your comments, you would like it.


It's able to be done privately or only as a FEC mandate on REPORTING the votes which doesn't interfere with the actual voting. It's also cheap and very fast to implement.


You can start by marking up bills yourself at http://www.opencongress.org

...and survey says....

...and survey says....


good one!

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

What happened to critical thinking?

Did you just throw that out the door? Isn't that what this movement is, in part, based on?

-1 for sheepishness!

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rocketman is one of the most thoughtful & courageous

activists IN REAL LIFE :-) His posts are short & humorous. . . and, at times, he is easily confused with a simpleton (much like those deep&profound zen riddles, methinks).

i think you're confusing me with

Rocketman, another DP'er, if you know him in real life.
simpleton, i am, no confusion about it.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

Obviously, his character doesn't match

otherwise, how could he make such a blatantly dismissive comment on a topic that others are clearly trying their best to gain some awareness.

I wasn't attacking his character but this individual comment and you missed that. Let's see if either of you come back with some thoughtful insight here.

i'm not interested

in mob rule or electronic voting. i'm sorta noticing a problem with that, NOW.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

Still have to deal with

Cyber Trolls And fake voters.


instead of living trolls

And paid for votes lol.

Sorry OP nice try but not even close to feasible.

Homeland security statement: patriotism is now considered terrorism.
I love www.isidewith.com shared it with everyone I know. If anything they realize its not just a red and blue idiot running for reelection.

Big difference

You know how hard it is to track down an IP?
You know how easy it is to track a paper trail?

Not even that, creating 30,000 fake voters electronically would require a fraction of the cost, time, and resources to creating 30,000 fake voters in paper.


but do you know how easy it would be to create a system that couldn't be falsified? Also, while it 'may not' be easy to completely stop all manipulation of said system, it certainly would be easy to expose it instantly and live for the world to see. I'm relatively sure there are people that would just love to watch for fraud and blow some whistles.

And btw, "track down an IP"? Really? No one but TPTB would suggest doing something so dumb. There's much better ways to tie a vote to a person.

I Vote....

I vote that we all receive $850,000 annually.