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Rand Paul Doesn't Have A Chance In 2016

At least not yet.

How are WE going to get ahead of the curve in each state in order to make sure every single Rand Paul vote is counted during the 2016 primary/caucus season?

How are WE going to make sure our votes aren't stolen by The Machine?

Every state needs to devise their own plans, but for the Love of God DON'T post your plans online!

E-mail conversations discussing strategy? NO!

Cellphone conversations discussing strategy? NO!

Posting to the Daily Paul talking about the latest strategy? No, no and no!

Texting? Might as well give the enemy our game plan.

"Are you serious?" Yes.

Do you really want to win? I do. So why discuss the Liberty Movement's actual plans over a bugged device like I'm doing now?

It's very early. Time is on our side for now, but those who matter most to the Liberty Movement MUST soon go UNDERGROUND to discuss the most important vital topics.

STOP talking on your cellphones about pertinent, sensitive information folks...we MUST act as if every single conversation and web posting is being recorded by the devil himself.

Seriously, as if we all already don't know how almost everything we do is tracked and traced, including this post.

So what's the solution? Pens, papers, stamps, FedEx, UPS, quiet conversations in areas where you know your television or an iphone can't listen to you, etc.

It's 2013, and those in positions of "power," within the Liberty Movement need to go off the grid, and on to the simplicity of pen and paper. The less we say, the more they don't know.

Written letters are hard to track and trace, just like cash.

Use "cash," to dethrone the king.

Rand "Paul," Revere's Pony Express.




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What does this have to do

What does this have to do with the price of Rand Paul's FUTURE political beans? You're talking about something in the past, and trying to make the past fit the present situation.

Are you trying to say I'm too late with my message, four years prior to the next election? Or are you saying that Rand is already too late and everybody has already made up their minds in 2016?

It sounds like you're saying, "it's never too late to get started, but you need to know that you're already screwed."

Am I reading that correctly?

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

Huh?

Do you want Rand Paul to win?

Then you need to be a PC or county central committee member IMMEDIATELY.

If you don't know how to do it, FIND OUT QUICK and do it.

Once you do, replicate your success and get 10 others to do it.

And, yes, if you do not do then, then you are correct, Rand Paul has zero chance.

That's excellent advice.

But, even if there is ZERO vote fraud, we have got to get actively involved in our local Republican Parties. If you're a college student, join College Republicans, help local Republican candidates defeat local Democrats between now and 2016, and most of all, gain your local Republican community's trust.

We're going to need infrastructure, but, we're also going to need to educate. You can get books by libertarian authors fairly cheaply on Amazon. Let's try to distribute them to as many known Republicans as we can.

Anyone notice how every

Anyone notice how every single Rand email always asks for $5, $10, $20? I get one about every other day, usually 3 or 4 of the same email. I don't remember Ron asking for money once.

And they're usually about abortion, because that's the most critical issue facing our country right now...

those emails are obviously

those emails are obviously not meant for you ... they are meant for the people he is targeting to get him money ... the GOP sheep ... and it's working whether you like it or not ....

it really is .. i don't know why people are in denial about this.

the only question people should be concerned with is whether her sold out or not? not whether what he is doing is working or not.

and even that question is speculation .... because NO ONE knows

All paper money eventually returns to its real intrinsic value, zero. - Voltaire

I Am On Rand Pauls...

... email list and the only emails I get are in regards to the NAGR (National Association for Gun Rights). I don't mind them, I think they are for a good cause.

We need to get an early start on 2016: Support Rand PAC 2016

www.randpac2016.com

https://twitter.com/randpac2016

Ron definitely asked for

Ron definitely asked for money.

Lol keep giving Rand $20 an

Lol keep giving Rand $20 an email then, it's for a good cause

And actually you're right, I was exaggerating. 3 money bombs during a Presidential campaign are different than spamming your email every day for the next BS cause...

"I don't remember Ron asking for money once."

LOL, what? You don't remember the emails from the RP campaign asking us to participate in moneybombs every couple weeks? Look, I know you have a passionate and superbly irrational hatred of Rand, but please refrain from falsifying history to make it fit with your narrative.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Not Ron personally, no.

Not Ron personally, no.

I do remember grassroots organizing money bombs, and never once did I get an email from Ron, "Give me $20 to stop abortion" "Give me $20 to stop Feinstein".... Give him your money if you want though

You must have not be on the lists

I received an email last week from the Good Doctor and a traditional letter in the mail just a couple days ago both giving an update to the situation and requesting money. Albeit the funds are for Dr. Paul's organization, Campaign for Liberty, but I see that point as moot.

The official Ron Paul 2012 Presidential campaign...

...sent out numerous emails (at least one per moneybomb) asking for donations. This went on for months, through the entire campaign season. Anyone who donated to the campaign was put on the mailing list. Did you donate? If so, then you did get those emails. Did you spend any time at all on the Daily Paul during the campaign season? If so, I find it hard to believe you didn't notice the innumerable threads talking about moneybombs and posting the campaign's emails to supporters.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

See above post

See above post

You mean the one that is blatantly false?

Yea...I already addressed that. You are flat out wrong, as anyone who followed the 2012 campaign would know. Ron Paul's official campaign asked for money repeatedly - FACT. And there's nothing wrong with that, contrary to your implication. So, it looks like your pathetic attempt to smear Rand has blown up in your face. Troll harder troll.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

"And actually you're right, I

"And actually you're right, I was exaggerating. 3 money bombs during a Presidential campaign are different than spamming your email every day for the next BS cause..."

I think I understand now though, Rand IS in fact in a Presidential campaign right now! lol...

It's perfectly clear now...

...that you're willing to lie and misrepresent the facts to construct your anti-Rand narrative. That you have to resort to such tactics demonstrates the essential weakness of your position.

P.S. You are right about one thing though: Rand Paul is already preparing the ground for his 2016 campaign, and why the hell not?! Early bird gets the worm.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

In the recent Republican primary...

...the influence of elections fraud on the outcome was greatly exaggerated. Yes, it's always prudent to take measures to ensure an accurate vote count, but the fact of the matter is that Ron Paul would not have won (not even close) even with perfectly fair elections. Our focus should be on bringing more people into the liberty movement. That's the way to win elections. Chasing the ghosts of minor and/or imaginary elections fraud will have little positive impact.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

I'm NOT going underground!!!!!!!!!!

I am an elected committee member and I expect to gain an office.. I've asked to become treasurer. I will continue to EDUCATE my GOP and community about Rand Paul.

I know there are some who want Palin.. THAT is who doesn't have a chance.. and as for going up against Santorum.. Rand will win.

This is a GREAT FIGHT in the GOP, I LOVE it.. plan on going to the state conventions and promoting RAND.

To me, the solution is to MAKE A STAND FOR RAND 2016!

I like it! Make a stand for

I like it! Make a stand for Rand!

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MAKE A STAND FOR RAND!!!

Hell Yeah Granger! I love it! I'm going to say that so much... Thank you!

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

How about Stand with Rand?

How about Stand with Rand?

Make a stand for Rand sounds proactive, though. So maybe it would be a better slogan for his campaign. Then again, Stand with Rand shows equality, not one person is ahead or above another, not the politician ahead/above anyone or that someone who isn't a politician is ahead/above someone including ahead/above the politician (which I wouldn't mind, though).

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton F. Dutton

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Stand for Rand, Stand with Rand

All I know is I'm standing for Rand, and not spending this election term on the couch.

I'll stand with Rand, Stand for Rand, Stand in front of Rand

Rand Paul 2016!!

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Stand in front of Rand. lol.

Stand in front of Rand. lol. Good. Don't stand behind him! You're one of "the people," and the people are in front of politicians.

Just thought up a slogan: Make a stand with Rand. Could work. It shows unity, that the politician and American are acting as one, that the politician is taking up the values of his constituents. Eh?

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton F. Dutton

Right on Granger

...keep up the good work!

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

One way NOT to fool ourselves

is to have a relaible polling numbers.

We may complain about the machines, but in many states polling numbers were in line with voting results. The problem was OUR OWN people who fed us bogus exaggerated numbers.

This election circle, RNC will make sure to tighten up caucuses rules.

libertarians excited about

libertarians excited about Rand are like black people excited about Obama

libertarians who can see past

libertarians who can see past our noses are like people who don't like people like you ... smart

All paper money eventually returns to its real intrinsic value, zero. - Voltaire

The States representatives to the Electoral College, also.

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Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

Of Course Not. However: RON PAUL DOES! Ron Paul 2016!

Of Course Not. However: RON PAUL DOES! Ron Paul 2016!

(Let the trolls say whatever they want...worry not).

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Sorry: NO RANDY (((Laughs!!!)))

Really.

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