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Well, was 911 an inside job?

Hello liberty bretheren.......

As you all know and if you research all my threads, I have been one of the harsher critics of 911 truth topics. However, after watching these more two recent documentaries on 911 (one called something like "finally PROOF" and another about Israeli connections) I swear to God, that I am finally speechless. I was honestly convinced that Alex Jones films on 911 and Loose Change and all the mainstream documentaries on 911 truth were completely debunked and then these two came out and Im thinking "wow, how could you debunk these?"... In fairness, because I try to be a critical thinker in every thing I do, I cannot prove most of the claims made, but they just dont seem like stuff you can make up. But if even half of the claims made on these most recent docs on 911 truth, then it looks pretty bad that 911 was an inside job... Wow.... However, I will still say that some truthers Ive debated on this forum are some of the most over zealous closed minded people Ive debated since debating mainstream neocons and liberals. I still am divided on how to perform action moveing forward? I will NEVER dislike Jack Hunter no matter what he says. I actually think he has a good point in that whether conspiracies are true or not, that if it hurts our cause, then perhaps we should only focus on the corruption that is out in the open. I dont know, but I will tell you this that for the first time in my life, I am starting to believe 911 was an inside job or at least, the very very least, been allowed to happen. Hmmm... Its making my head spin....



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Zion's Prior Knowledge.

quite a few times the videos have been posted on DP about the israeli team "recording the event" of 911. also the arrest of other teams in vans with explosives. therefore the 'inside' job in not the complete picture. those on the inside are in collusion.

question is = who benefited ? = Silverstien, banksters, MIC, zion, etc.
who lost ? 1st WTC folks, new-yorkers, american taxpayer. continuous & greatest suffering is of the nations unjustly blamed for the crime, & then bombed & killed, (hundreds of thousands)= afghans, iraqis, etc., who had no hand in the plane-crashing.

your on the daily paul saying

your on the daily paul saying you will never dislike Jack Hunter?! Get the eff outta here cunt lol

The more you research, the

The more you research, the more you see how obviously wrong the official story is. Where to go from here? Who knows. Maybe the first step should be stop using the word "truther". It is a media made up word to discredit anyone who disagrees with the official version. Birther is used in the same way.

There are three issues

that need to be resolved:

First, the government conspiracy theory that some guy in a cave in Afghanistan sent 19 hijackers into this country to take over 4 airplanes using nothing more than box cutters. 19 hijackers using box cutters thwarted the most advanced military in the world, Neads, Norad, the Department of Defense, the Pentagon, the FAA, the Department of Transportation, the CIA, FBI, the NSA, the DIA, and all those satellites in the sky.

If the above is true, I don't know about anyone else, but I want my money back.

Second, the people who worked on the pile for months after 9/11, early on, were getting sick and dying. There are many people today who worked on the pile who are sick and dying, and who have died. Imagine the government admitting that along with the other garbage in the air, small microspheres of red chips thought to be thermite, thermate or nano-thermite were in the dust. This could represent a health catastrophe, not only for the people who worked on the pile but all citizens who breathed in the air during and afterwards.

Three, are the fires burning for months underneath WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7. Firefighters and others reported molten steel, running down the channels, looking like a foundry and then this from John Gross, representing NIST:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v36bkCB8sTY

In my opinion, this would explain NIST declaring there were no explosives used and when asked if they tested for explosives, NIST responds by stating they didn't test for explosives because no explosives were used. NIST's explanation is the most unscientific explanation I've ever heard.

Why does this post have 40 up votes?..

The only story that's been "debunked", is the official one. Period.

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Michael Nystrom's picture

Why did you come around and bump it?

Seriously.

911 Truth is over. You may as well be arguing about a fake moon landing, an inside job on Kennedy, and Iran Contra.

It's over. The battle lines have moved.

"Period." Ha ha ha. Like everyone likes to say! PERIOD!

Ha ha ha. Exhausting and tiring when you guys do that.

Period.

Ha ha ha.

Couldn't help myself.

He's the man.

Links

or it didn't happen. Not sure why you haven't found evidence on 9/11 yet to convince you though.

paulhakel.info
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Tell us which docs you are

Tell us which docs you are talking about. Was one "War by Deception, 2013", by Ryan Dawson? My only complaint is that Ryan needs to put his info into book form. There is way too much info to keep track of just from watching the video. Having it in book form would be so awesome.

I don't like the phrase "inside job," cause it conjures images of Bush masterminding the attacks, and the demolition, which we know he is not smart enough to do. Mossad, CIA, and FBI each def involved.

Yes, the thought of Boy Bush as a "mastermind" is ridiculous

Bush was assigned to be with elementary school children that day because that's how low on the totem pole he is. He did what he was told, to make his daddy proud. Good boy, good boy.

lol. gotta love the bushes.

lol. gotta love the bushes.

pgrady
f___ all forms of govt.

2 planes + 3 buildings x 0 mainstream questions

= infinite players

fireant's picture

Short answer; we don't know.

"Inside job" is overly broad and vague anyway. It can mean anything from a renegade inside cadre who had fore knowledge and let it happen, all the way to the full blown multi-faceted conspiracy as promoted by the controlled demolition faithful, or anything in between. To use such a sweeping brush, then pit against official story believers is intellectually weak, and a semantic trick to boot. So, I'd say, define your terms. "Inside job" seems most commonly a reference to the controlled demolition theory. If that is what you refer to, no, that did not happen; the evidence does not support it. When you take all the anecdotal comparisons and occurrences which "prove" CD, the only conclusion is to then look at the debris for evidence. It will be obvious if such quantities of thermate and/or explosives were used. I took that step. There is no evidence in the debris of controlled demolition; zero. No cut or exploded beams, no fuses, radio receivers, or wires. Nothing which would be evident after a controlled demolition. Add to that not one report from the thousands of first responders of having seem any of the above, or having smelled the telltale scent of detonation, and the CD theory falls apart.
My route has been the opposite of yours. I didn't give it too much thought until gaining internet access in 2007, and was exposed to the many CD videos. I became mostly convinced they were true. A few questions nagged at me though, so I took the step of looking for the sure to be found evidence. Having found none, and re-thinking the issue, I am convinced CD was not part of the operation.
What is not known, is why the Bush Administration frustrated the 911 Commission and the Joint Congressional Investigation. If there was inside coordination or inside knowledge, following that road will reveal it. Demanding all the redacted FBI files be released, or at minimum, be reviewed by a Congressional body, will help answer your question.

Undo what Wilson did

What did Silverstein mean when he said

"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/pullIt3.wmv

So he's admitted it!!!11 Lets

So he's admitted it!!!11 Lets find a way to kill him since he is responsible for the death of 3000 Americans .

Or is it infinitely more likely that he was talking about pulling the operation?

I keep looking for more sophisticated arguments but it always the same old vomit from loose change that has been debunked a million times.

You don't even have any conviction about these ridiculous theories or you would actually get off your ass and do something. So either you are an impotent coward or a hypocrite, which one is it?

Lets demand for the fire department to be shot by a firing squad because they were IN on it too right?

fireant's picture

That's part of the anecdotal occurrences I referred to.

If they are true, the evidence will be in the debris; it isn't.

Undo what Wilson did

Something "seeming" to be made up is a pathetic criteria for

determining validity, regardless of the topic.

I can easily see how if you approach topics in such a manner, that those who you have a dispute with will appear 'close minded.' The problem instead, is that you are not relying on objective reality, you are relying on unquantifiable and undefinable impressions and feelings rather than observable facts. On the contrary, it is the liberal and the statist (are they not one in the same in these times?) who behaves as you do - relying on emotions, and thus decrying those who rely on facts as 'close-minded.'

Or, perhaps you just made a poor choice of words. But if you really are of the fact following persuasion you very likely wouldn't have come anywhere near close to putting those words down in print.

Too much focus on the word "inside"!!!

9/11 was an "Israeli" job. Whether that makes it an "inside" job or not is pure semantics, as to whether Israel and America are one and the same entity. The most important point is that Mossad hatched and executed the plot, along with their American Zionist counterparts.

Zion Wags the Dog

+1. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wag+the+dog
Wag the dog : 3. To start a war or military operation to divert negative politcal attention away from yourself. Based on the movie of the same name, _ - - -
Zion's Plot.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_the_phrase_wag_the_dog_mean
Answer: It refers to making a situation seem something it is not by creating the situation in such a way that the spectators react in a predetermined manner

Tip of the hat

It was brilliantly executed. Whoever did it deserves high praise for their technical skill. Too bad Americans don't understand basic laws of physics. It's been like watching a nation of Dodo birds.

I have done considerable research on this...

...and I posted my findings right here on the Daily Paul:

http://www.dailypaul.com/280404/its-time-to-put-this-9-11-co...

It would have been nice to see a link to whatever you watched so I could judge it for myself. Anyway, I hope my article is helpful to you.

-Bloatedtoad

To The OP: Make Sure To Watch Dr. Robert Bowman

I highly recommend you watch the videos of Dr. Robert Bowman. He's literally a rocket scientist and was in charge of the "Star Wars" program under Presidents Ford and Carter. And he's got some very strong words about 9/11 as shown in this video:

"Dr. Robert Bowman: the impossibility of the official government story"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlGm9ZorT4Q

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good stuff

thanks

robot999's picture

Wow...

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"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

google

Then read, "all the proof in the world".
If you are not aware of who pulled it off after that,
Then the possibility exists that you may not want to know.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

Being "allowed to happen"

makes it a "false flag", specifically, other details not withstanding.

They used the event to further the creation of the police state. Now, 12 years later, citizens are calling the police when they see a "brown person" carrying a crock pot, or an Italian carrying guns to a gun show.

It was a "crime against humanity" no matter how you slice it, IMO.

Jack Hunter may have a point, but, when someone mentions it, and how they are "taking care of us since then", I find it impossible to "hold my tongue".

It is a colossal lie, and has changed the path of this country. I grew up thinking America was just and true. I find now that Amerika has the most corrupt, terrorist government on the planet, and I am ashamed to be american.

Just open the box and see

sharkhearted's picture

I HATE my government...but still LOVE my county

The IDEA of America is really good....evolved, even.

However...the salient fact that we have "the most corrupt, terrorist government on the planet"...that being a salient fact (of which I do not disagree)...means that we should double our efforts to protect and defend the IDEA of America...and all those people (from around the world) who support the same.

It IS possible...to LOVE your country (and the idea of it)...while HATING and DESPISING its government....which I do, no doubt....don't get me started.

F-U-C-K the Federal Government of the USA.

But God Bless its good citizens who want to restore the Republic and restore SELF RULE.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Cyril's picture

I wholeheartedly agree.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Thank you for this.

The American idea is worth fighting for it. Some have died for it. To defend it. To protect it. To keep it alive in both our brains and our hearts.

Woe to its enemies. The enemies of liberty. Woe to the complacent slaves or minions of the state.

God Bless the defenders of liberty.

Tell your youths, too, true Americans:

http://www.dailypaul.com/280094/to-the-youth

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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sharkhearted's picture

Cyril...you are a PATRIOT

Thanks for the link....

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

I agree

I do love my country, and will fight for it's ideals till the day I die.

The idea of America is worth fighting and dying for. Literally millions of patriots have done that over the years, and I honor their sacrifices, while condemning the current guise of the federal government. Its not my government, just my captor. I consider myself a POW until this current monstrosity is dissembled. They DO NOT speak for me with their drones.

Thanks for the reply, you are right. It helps me to "recenter" myself. :)

Just open the box and see

sharkhearted's picture

Extremely well said.

Indeed. We are POWs within our own republic!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.