Well, was 911 an inside job?
Submitted by lordindra3 on Mon, 01/21/2013 - 22:57Hello liberty bretheren.......
As you all know and if you research all my threads, I have been one of the harsher critics of 911 truth topics. However, after watching these more two recent documentaries on 911 (one called something like "finally PROOF" and another about Israeli connections) I swear to God, that I am finally speechless. I was honestly convinced that Alex Jones films on 911 and Loose Change and all the mainstream documentaries on 911 truth were completely debunked and then these two came out and Im thinking "wow, how could you debunk these?"... In fairness, because I try to be a critical thinker in every thing I do, I cannot prove most of the claims made, but they just dont seem like stuff you can make up. But if even half of the claims made on these most recent docs on 911 truth, then it looks pretty bad that 911 was an inside job... Wow.... However, I will still say that some truthers Ive debated on this forum are some of the most over zealous closed minded people Ive debated since debating mainstream neocons and liberals. I still am divided on how to perform action moveing forward? I will NEVER dislike Jack Hunter no matter what he says. I actually think he has a good point in that whether conspiracies are true or not, that if it hurts our cause, then perhaps we should only focus on the corruption that is out in the open. I dont know, but I will tell you this that for the first time in my life, I am starting to believe 911 was an inside job or at least, the very very least, been allowed to happen. Hmmm... Its making my head spin....
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I'll no longer even argue
I'll no longer even argue with people who believe the government story. It's like trying to explain to adults that Santa Clause isn't real.
WHAT???!!!
I'm going to cry... Who ate the milk and cookies, then?
Ron Paul supports a new 9-11 investigation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0
9-12 is easier to get your brain around.
It is a crime to tamper with a crime scene before the investigation is done. On 9-12, the crime scene was utterly destroyed, live on national TV. It went on for weeks. And the type of investigation that was supposed to happen NEVER did. The 9-11 Commission was NOT a group of arson experts, and even if they were, the clues that arson investigators would look for were over a year old and GONE by the time they "investigated." Please note they call it a "Commission Report" not an investigation.
So, along with "too big to fail" banks we have "too big to investigate" crimes. And one last note.... They are considering demolishing Sandy Hook Elementary, even as people like me scream out to see photos of the bullet riddled front door...
Thanks for not digging in on your opinion and staying open until you finally saw. It is not that "truthers" have the answers, it is that we have very reasonable questions.
Ron Paul supports a new 9-11 investigation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0
Since you're open minded...
...take a look at this regarding the explosions witnesses heard:
http://www.debunking911.com/explosions.htm
I believe you'll find it informative and will rechange your mind again.
And For Debunking 9/11 Debunking Sites....
http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/
or just read David Ray Griffin's Debunking 9/11 Debunking. Most so called debunkers focus on straw man arguments. And they also rely on ridicule and guilt by association.
A posted youtube...
...film on Daily Paul within the last couple of days showed only portions of the quotes by firemen and other eyewitnesses at the scene. I, among many thousands of people, I'm sure, heard several of the full quotes while watching 9/11 documentaries. Eg., Some of the quotes about "bombs going off" were actually descriptions of the sound made by bodies hitting the ground, but you wouldn't know that if you hadn't heard the full quotes.
But there's no ridicule on my part. I just think 9/11 truthers give the Federal Government way too much credit to pull off such a grand conspiracy.
that is just lame
There are videos of the charges going off in sequence, you can watch the flash then the windows pop out. Barry Jennings testified that he saw someone BLOWN out of the building by the explosion, and there is a horrific video of someone getting blown out of a window of one of the towers.
Take a lesson from the OP and have a look at the facts instead of trying to prop up your opinion. You can start here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7cvjBViV7g
Ron Paul supports a new 9-11 investigation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0
I did review facts...
...and heard for myself a few of the quotes that had been edited out by the conspiracy theorists, which is why I came to the conclusion that explosive devices set by government geniuses (an oxymoron, btw) is not credible.
Again, as Ron Paul said so many times, BLOWBACK was the motive for 9/11. I agree with him.
Why do you think blowback
Why do you think blowback requires a 9/11 level of event? Aren't avg. terrorist attacks enough?
motive is only half the story
The building came down. How? Explosives were used. Video evidence and eyewitness testimony. Not just of hearing explosions, but of seeing them, being hurled around by them.
Don't "review" facts - go dig for them. ALL of them, not just the ones that make you feel good.
Ron Paul supports a new 9-11 investigation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0
This conspiracy theory...
...appears to make you feel good. Otherwise, I believe there's no way you wouldn't question the creative editing of these 9/11 conspiracy videos.
creatively edited?
...really? Let me see your original pictures of the 757 wreckage at the Pentagon; 124' foot wingspan penetrated the first ring, right? ... I know the pilots are insane, and, they're doctoring videos with personal funds - not asking questions about basic physics regarding what the debris field of 757 crash might look like IF the "official story" is truthful.
Yep, Eric Hufschmid's Painful Deceptions was "creatively edited" before it was released...you bet!
http://virtueandexcellence.com
Eric Hufschmid...
...sold quite a few copies, though. I don't know him personally, but I'd be skeptical of what he says for that reason ($) alone.
Richard C. Hoagland Shocks The World On George Noory’s ctc
Peter Santilli
…well…..if you were a crime scene investigator, would you walk upon a scene and step over the big-tech gun (military issued in a foreign land), the wallet of the perpetrator laying on the floor with his drivers license in it?
These clues are not only the signatures of the assailants, but in the case of 911′s crime scene, making the public aware that “FREE ENERGY’ exists, and was used that day is very important.
If we can’t even focus long enough to determine WHAT happened, how could you ever expect to find out WHO did it?
It’s not only the most important question, but the answer will point us in one direction: that the people who posses this technology are using free energy for evil purposes. We can use the energy for good, but it must be in the right hands.
The public deserves to know that this technology exists….especially because it will help them realize who the perpetrators of the cover-up are (Alex Jones, Steven Jones, Richard Gage, James Fetzer, etc).
The cover-up has resulted in the loss of more lives AFTER 911 than on that day itself
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/01/shocking-admiss...
Hadn't seen that one
but I have read "Where Did The Towers Go" and if people who are going to mouth off about this, they should read her book before giving you insults yet for mentioning the technology. The book is a must if one is to discuss 9/11. The rivalry within the 911 truth movement is causing stagnation. You listed the perps. ;but is it ego or malicious intent? Steven Jones ...More than likely. He was involved in mysterious ways. He coined the term "cold fusion", and now uses it against the truth.
Evidence of many things that happened on 9/11 were found and were not explained by explosives. One of the most unusual "coincidences", was a shift in the magnetism of the earth precisely at the moments of impact of the first hole in WTC 1 and throughout the day until the collapse of WTC 7, as recorded from magnetometer stations in Alaska and the GEO satellite data. Hurricane Erin's path and position "coincidence" with the events is also something that is also more than suspicious.
Thanks for your open mind and spreading the word. I have been gun-shy lately about speaking up. You will see why in responses from others.
Mikoni
About Time
One more down and millions more to go. Most people I know never even heard of building 7.
skippy
i can debunk building #7. it
i can debunk building #7. it was swamp gas.
lawrence
I think this debunks...
...the building 7 conspiracy theory pretty well (the "pull" quotes regarding building 7):
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
http://911debunkers.blogspot.
http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/ for a counterpoint to so called debunkers
I have no idea
whether 9-11 was an inside job. There is plenty of evidence to suggest
the official story is lacking in truth. We will probably never know the truth in most of our lifetimes or at least until everyone involved is dead. As Dr Paul once said, most government investigations are coverups and the 9-11 commission is no exception.
Dr. Paul...
...is not a 9/11 truther, from everything I've read and heard by him.
Again, the word "blowback" -- Dr. Paul has said the word so many times in reference to 9/11. Every single time 9/11 was brought up by Ron Paul, it was about blowback and the ineptness of government.
Wrong.
Or you are lying? Ron Paul supports an investigation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0
That ineptness is why he supports an investigation, and that investigation cannot help but show a cover up, at the best. 9-12 - you watched the cover up. It was a crime to tamper with that crime scene.
Ron Paul supports a new 9-11 investigation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0
Of course...
...Ron Paul supports an investigation, and he says why: Because the ineptness by government needs to be brought to light, as well as the blowback.
Nothing about conspiracy in the video. You'll have to do much better than that if you want people to actually buy into this "Ron Paul's a 9/11 truther" mantra I keep seeing on DP.
No one says "Ron Paul is a truther"
except those seeking to get a rise out of truthers. Those who pretend "blowback" is all Ron has to say on the topic are wrong. And again, since when does asking reasonable questions = "conspiracy?"
Never mind, I had hoped to turn you toward seeking answers, instead you argue with me. Have a nice day.
Ron Paul supports a new 9-11 investigation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0
Glad to hear...
...you say that no one says Ron Paul's a 9/11 truther (because that would definitely be misrepresenting him). I gladly stand corrected, then.
He talked of working with Kucinich to investigate
it.. which means he saw some inconsistencies with the "official story".
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inconsistencies?
That's quite a stretch to take "inconsistencies" to mean "inside job."
"Ineptness" and "blowback" -- those are the words Ron Paul has used regarding 9/11. No doubt he'd want an investigation.
I agree with you.
I don't doubt planes could have been hijacked by militant Islamists angry about the US's actions in the Middle East and our support for Israel. What I don't believe is that planes alone took down those 3 buildings.I do suspect it to either have been orchestrated by elements of our gov't or simply allowed to happen, but there is no real hard evidence for this, just some very suspicious actions.
He also said that the government is
prone to cover-ups.. I don't think you know Dr.Paul quite as much as you think.
Saying "inconsistencies" is Dr.Paul's polite way of saying.. "I don't believe the story they're telling me". He's "playing it safe".. He's that way about many things, while others, he just comes out and says what he is thinking.
Even with the little he has said about 9/11.. the media has ripped him a new one so I'd be cautious too if I was in his shoes.
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I haven't seen...
...a quote from Paul about "inconsistencies" with regard to 9/11, though I Googled it. So I'm not sure where you're getting that word from.