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Do We Even Deserve Liberty?

I was thinking about this.

Where do the rules by which we live come from?

From chemical corporations that have taken over farming? From cheating banks that have taken over investment and industry? From a cynical demagogue who thinks bankrupt entitlement programs are what we owe each other to live in a better world?

Or from those who start deadly 'police actions' the world over with terrible robotic killing machines? Perhaps those who employ torture and secret kidnappings and assassinations but say, 'trust us'? Or perhaps a media that lusts after mass murders for the sake of ratings, yet seems ready to go with a coordinated anti-gun campaign just in time for the next killing?

How about political campaigns of beloved public speakers that are nevertheless managed by neocon sabateurs? Or what about sons of beloved public speakers that are nothing more than tightrope walking sell-outs?

We can give a little money here, post a facebook message there, but at what point can we say we 'deserve liberty'.

Because if all our rules come from the top down, then in fact we are dependent on the top. We need the top and don't deserve to disobey the top.

If we are to be free, we need to govern ourselves, rule ourselves, and provide for ourselves by ourselves. I mean that in terms of us as individuals, but also as small communities, but also as large communities. Against the imperial state.

A few days ago I posted this: http://www.dailypaul.com/271276/finally-this-is-how-we-rewri...

I said, "hey guys, even if you don't click the links here, read the whole thing and post a comment so that other people have a chance to read it." Not one person left a single comment.

So, really, I don't think the people here at DP want to really have self-government. They, just like the neocons and progressives want to use the decisive and instantly gratifying power of government to get their way and seem content to sit and complain in the meantime.

That's not meant to be a petty accusation. It's more of a wake-up call.

None of us deserve liberty or self-government unless we actually build and maintain self-government ourselves.

If you don't know what I mean, or don't want to read much, well at least read this: http://columbiaparty.com/2013/01/20/handout-pamphlet-for-org...

So, you can't move mountains? Fine. How about taking five minutes to read that pamphlet? Or, at a minimum, leave a comment so that we can have a little discussion, and more people can be exposed to this idea. That's all.

We want to stop judges that take away people's kids, and prosecute police that step out of bounds, and hold the media accountable for lying, and let the government know that they plan to take away our freedoms in vain. But how?

We need to organize, all of us, anyone remotely like us, into a body independent of state.

We have to be able to generate a consensus from the bottom up: without splintering into bickering factions, without relying on top-down institutions.

If we can't do that, we really don't deserve liberty. Why would we, we can't even organize our opinion? How could we rule ourselves, or make economic decisions? Or responsibly choose what we do recreationally?

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Cyril's picture

Do We Even Deserve Liberty?

Of course we do.

We are the living PROOFS, in flesh and bones, for that.

Check out my signature's links; that's what we stand for, in ALL AWARENESS.

Knowledge, Memory, History, are on our side.

In two words: BOTH TRUTHS, the simple, positive one of 1776, and the ugly, especially surging in 1913 and on.

We denounce the ugly, we stand to restore the first, THE TEXTS of The People.

The People has neglected to take care of this country's foundations, now the traitors and leeches are in charge.

But we deal with it.

We are going to fix this mess, converting one other asleep american at a time.

Hang on. Stand on.


"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Oops, don't want to send wrong message

I don't mean to say: "We don't deserve liberty"

I mean to say: "We have to earn our liberty"

Yes, that's very general, but I'm trying to share my concept of self-government.

So, I'm not saying: "Don't like my idea and you don't deserve liberty."

I'm saying: "Self-organizing outside of government might be the only way to earn liberty."

I had a sentence trying to say so in the post, but it doesn't seem very clear. Thanks!

There Needs To Be More Localities Starting New Local Currencies

I have read it is happening, however apparently not nearly enough.

- AMAZING PHOTO delineating where UNRESTRAINED CAPITALISM has taken us: http://www.rense.com/general96/whatare.html
- "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."-- Mohandas Gandhi

To Work

We'd need some kind of electronic exchange between communities. That would make it take off.

However, this would never be allowed, even if it was totally transparent and contractually sound. That's the sad thing that neocon fed lovers don't seem to get about the banking monopoly.

But my point here is that what we can't do with money (local initiative organized to a higher level), we can do with speech. They can't really ban free assembly can they?

The local environment can be mostly free of federal intervention, and so the localities need to organize independent of, I mean, ignoring the state and federal authorities (political parties, machines).

This would be high-minded, except the concept here is that this organization would be political but wield no power. With no power, it's free from the corruption of state politics. But, with no power, what can it do.

That's the revelation! Power is held by sovereign individuals. The assembly of voices would empower the individual to act, giving greater confidence that others 'have his back'.

This would make civil disobedience an effective tool against a political apparatus designed to outright ignore local concerns.

Yes we deserve it.

We deserve to be free from immoral political despots and allowed to live in peace without criminals taking advantage of our natural humanity.