When the Asst. Atty Gen of NC and an OAH Law Judge says your Taxing Agency is not an Agency under the State, you have a problem!Submitted by The South on Tue, 01/22/2013 - 20:28
Edit: I fubared the initial post on this, and am making the necessary corrections. I am working on several different things in this movement right now, and this mess sometimes scrambles the brain; cases get mixed up with others in the mind, and before you know it, you're off in left field using one resource to add confusion to another. So forgive my ignorance on the last heading, and the way I laid this out. It was an honest mistake and I didn't mean to make an intentional misrepresentation of the case or points I was trying to convey.
The point I was trying to make is, that Private Citizens who claim local/state/federal Agencies have no jurisdiction over their lives unless they are employed by that Agency, are correct.
Here we have a case involving Rod Class vs NC Dept. of Revenue, who had claimed he could not sue them because they were public officials who had 11th Amendment sovereignty under the united States Constitution as State Employees/Agencies/Elected-Public Officials.
But the Asst. Atty General of NC said they were not Agencies/Agents under the Administrative control of the State and an OAH Law Judge upheld that opinion.
So if the NC Dept. of Revenue is not an Agency under the state, and it's Agents are not public officials/state employees, then they must be private contractors working for a private agency that is extorting taxes and enforcing internal statutes on non-gov't employees, which would be Private Citizens, or what the media likes to call "Sovereign Citizens".
If so, this is Tax Fraud and Embezzlement of State Funds by non-government officials aka public officials/officers/agents of the state.
How many "Sovereign Citizen" documentaries have we seen over the years, portraying those maniacs as a Danger to Law Enforcement Nationwide?
I mean these people claiming their Sovereignty are Delusional Idiots, right? How dare they claim local/state/federal gov't agencies have no jurisdiction over their lives?
Well, what if they are correct in their assertions?
What if a Dept. of Revenue Taxing Agency were claiming 11th Amendment Sovereignty under the State when faced with a lawsuit, but we came to find out those Agencies and it's Agents were actually private contractors that were in no way under the Administrative Authority of the State their claiming 11th Amendment Immunity under?
From what I can gather, the NC Dept. of Revenue Agents were claiming 11th Amendment Immunity under the State as public officials, but it looks like they are in fact Not an Agency or Agents Under the Administrative Control of the State after all.
They were saying "hey, you can't sue us, we're elected officials", but the Asst. Atty General says they are not, and the Administrative Law Judge upheld that opinion.
Here we have the Asst. Attorney General of North Carolina motioning and Administrative Law Judge to dismiss a case Rod has brought against the NC Dept. of Revenue, because he says that Agency or it's Agents do not fall under the Administrative Authority of the State - they do not work for the state, and are not state employees.
Basically, the State is not claiming them at all.
Rod explains this here:
The Asst. Atty General representing the NC Dept. of Revenue is telling the Administrative Law Judge that he lacks subject matter jurisdiction over Rod's action, and personal jurisdiction over the Dept. of Revenue, because they are not state agencies or agents of the state aka public officials.
The Administrative Law Judge agreed with the Asst. Atty General and upheld that assertion in his opinion; all docs for this case can be found here http://harveyw26.minus.com/
Now Rod can bring that Agency and it's Agents into court, and use the Asst. Atty General and the Administrative Law Judge as Witnesses against them.
How can they change their mind now? Are they going to perjure themselves? We can only hope so.
But those "Sovereign Citizens" who claim these agencies and their agents have no lawful authority to tax them, or enforce internal statutes on them, are delusional, and we must hunt them down like dogs and kill them all; arrest them; frame them; send them to prison, because they are a Threat to Law Enforcement Officers Nationwide.
When Private Citizens want to claim their Sovereignty, they are Bat-Sh*t Crazy Conspiracy Theorists; Delusional and Insane for believing so called gov't agencies have no authority over their lives, unless said gov't agency has employed them, which would contractually obligate them to abide by those internal statutes that ONLY apply to gov't employees/elected officials/resident/officers, etc. who are getting a paycheck and full benefits for abiding by those internal statutory codes-rules-regulations.
Are we officiating on a sliding scale Gentlemen? The State wants to exercise it's 11th Amendment Sovereignty when being sued by it's Citizens, but when that Citizen tries to use that same 11th Amendment which removed all “judicial power” in law, equity, treaties, contract law, and the right of the State to bring suit against the People, you don't recognize that Amendment, and don't want to allow it as defense in YOUR courtrooms.
Am I missing something here?
There is no government oversight of those agencies, because those agencies are private; hiring private contractors to enforce statutory codes on non-government employees. We basically have private agencies and their agents impersonating public officials.
When is an Agency not an Agency under the STATE?
Rod Class explains how using the Administrative process removes Immunity from so called Gov't Officials:
Another episode where Rod explains this:
Rod's talkshoe radio AIB show where you can listen to all the archives:
As for you Law Enforcement Agencies who insist Sovereign Citizens are a Clear and Present Danger to Law Enforcement Nationwide, you might want to double check this case and take a second look at what you've been led to believe about people claiming the state has no authority over their lives.
NOTE: All “judicial power” of the “inferior courts” comes from the Judiciary Act of 1789, as did the Attorney General position. “Judicial power” comes from Article III, Section 2 of the Constitution. The Eleventh Amendment removed all “judicial power” in law, equity, treaties, contract law, and the right of the State to bring suit against the People.
“There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just been Administrators.” (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat. 138-178)
Those BAR Attorney's sitting behind the bench, are not Judges; they are Administrators of the 1933 Bankruptcy.
As for the so called Gov't Agencies:
Private contractors impersonating gov't officials, are nothing more than private Citizens enforcing their will and statutes on Citizens they have zero authority to govern.
Remember: We haven't had a legitimate government body in this country since 1871 when the 41st Congress walked out sine die and the corporate take over began.
What we have in America is a foreign corporation occupying those seats of Congress, and impersonating a legitimate government body.
Source: The District of Columbia Act of 1871.
“The United States Government is a foreign corporation with respect to a state.” Volume 20: Corpus Juris Secundum, (P 1785: NY re: Merriam 36 N.E. 505 1441 S.Ct. 1973, 41 L. Ed. 287)
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT CORPORATION (created on February 21, 1871 by the Forty-First Congress, Section 34, Session III, chapters 61 and 62: “An Act To Provide A Government for the District of Columbia”. This is also known as the “Act of 1871″.
This is reflected in U.S. Code, Title 28 – JUDICIARY AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE, (Chapter 176) Section 3002 (15) (a, b, & c); which states that ~
(15) ” United States ” means – (A) a Federal corporation; (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; (C) an instrumentality of the United States
Question for Law Enforcement and Gov't Agencies Nationwide:
When you Infringe on the Rights of Private Citizens, and the day comes that you are forced to justify your decision to do so in a court of law, what will be your answer when that Private Citizen asks this question?
"What's the One Document, either Local/State/Federal Gov't has in their possession, that would Contractually Obligate anyone (other than gov't employees/elected officials/officers who ARE receiving pay and benefits to abide by internal statutes (US Code Title 1 - Title 50)), to abide by those internal statutes-rules-codes-regulations, and to do it for free - without pay, and without benefits of their own?"
Hint: If said Private Citizen has not signed an employment contract that clearly shows they are working and receiving pay from either Local/State/Federal Gov't, then that Private Citizen is not contractually obligated to abide by your internal statutory codes that only apply to gov't agents who are receiving a nice paycheck on the 1st and 15th, and a REAL NICE benefits package that entices said gov't agent to actually abide by those statutes.
No Contract = No Jurisdiction
Do you have the contract in your possession, or are you only bluffing?
Govern Yourselves Accordingly; you are working for a foreign corporation known as the UNITED STATES or the STATE OF *** that is doing business on American soil.
Mind your manners while you are here or you may be held liable in your private-personal capacity for Infringing on the Rights of Private Citizens who do not fall within the scope of your supposed authority.