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Sandy Hook Conspiracy is growing some legs!

People on the right, left, and apolitical are coming out all over the place, on facebook, at my wife's place of work(hair salon) and calling the official story bullshit..

I think this issue if pushed just right might be the issue that saves the US from tyranny.




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Wow you gotto hear this interview

Kerry Cassidy interviewed Mike Harris. He is talking about Sandy Hook and saying some mind blowing stuff about the shooters. Link to this interview is at he bottom of this post.

When he ran for Governor of Arizona and there was a attempt on his life.

Also I posted a link to and interview he did about drones. My post did not get many hits but he actual came out and stated 911 was a false flag. He also has a radio show.

http://www.renseradio.com/hosts.htm

scroll down on the page and you will see his radio show.

Says Russian satellite captured images of three shooter entering the school. Also states that images identified them as Mossad.
He was a Ron Paul supporter in 2012

you can download the radio show interview at this link.

http://projectcamelotportal.com/interviews-list/whistleblowe...

Yeah, sounds like Sorcha Faal BS

A Russian satellite could NOT id people as Mossad lol. That's ridiculous Sorcha Faal Gordon Duff nonsense. What's the explanation - that the Russians have a high tech biometric facial recognition software on their satellites that match them up with their list of Mossad agents with pictures taken from space?

Lots of disinfo out there, people. Be careful who you believe, and stick with the evidence so you won't be misled by any limited hangout/disinfo operation, if that's the source of it.

Less than 10 minutes in, and I smell BS

Sorry, I tried. I really do not trust Project Camelot, have not for so long I don't even remember why. But this guy is in cahoots with this guy:
http://www.dailypaul.com/262303/gordon-duff-veterans-today-a...

I'll listen, but if he does not have HARD EVIDENCE of his claims, I will disregard all that he says.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

I don't think he is

in cahoots with Gordon Duff. He just writes for Veterans today sometimes.

Kerry does not like Gordon Duff either.

bad links

try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbZ9b-TpLCY

Listening now.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

I have a question, any people here familiar with guns and locks?

With all the confusion and conflicting information coming out on this, one thing stands out in my mind. They reported that the school had a new security door that was shot open. I read a post by a locksmith, he stated that there is no way the guns listed could have simply shot off the lock. It's so common on TV, the guy shoots the lock and the door opens, he said that's not the case. He said the round would ricochet and most likely would jam the locking mechanism, sticking the door shut.

So the question is, can a gun simply shoot open a security door? I understand without knowing what kind of door, lock assembly or weapon involved it may be difficult to answer.

I was curious, so I did a google search on security entry door systems, seems there is an industry standard for bullet resistant doors. http://www.designguide.com/profileDetail.aspx?lid=62252

hmmmm

He climbed thru broken glass window and didn't cut himself? I know crooks usually don't break glass to gain entry as afraid cut themselves good on the sharp glass ... plus new door would be mesh screen reinforced wouldn't it? so little kiddies don't get glass sharpnel on them ... I think someone was let in .. first story said guy dressed as priest and nuns entered no questions asked .. hmmmm

have a link whiz?

sometimes first stories are the leak thats later patched..

being 'let in' only fits with SH lockdown procedure AFTER at 9:30am.

BEFORE 9:30, door is open for morning traffic, walk in, no questions asked.

(per principals LETTER TO SH PARENTS sent out in fall 2012)

Broken glass

Is reportedly a result of the police trying to get in. That is what the CT police said recently. Forget what major news site I saw that on.

Of course, that begs the question. Why would anyone let Lanza in the front door carrying a rifle and a vest with hundreds of magazine loaded rounds?

WTF?

Disregard

Apparently both the front door AND the windows were broken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUP1jNwGWNA

Don't know where I read it, but I heard the glass was 'busted'

out. This could have been the 'racket' some of the kids heard.

I read the same thing. Glass was busted.

Now a better question is what kind of glass it was and now that we know he only had hand guns on him, can that kind of bullet break the glass.

The news reported

That the school had just put in a "security door", if that's true, the company who installed it would have that information. I would assume that company is most likely local to CT. It may not be too hard to track down the installer.

The security door is the missing talking point in this whole debate on guns. I have not heard one mention of safegarding the schools with bullet resistent doors, even though they are avaliable. They even have the technology for blast proof doors.

Reality vs Official

Never made it through a full 30 without a hiccup, personally. not once.

Furthermore, the ME stated that he did 7 autopsies. The fewest hits totaled 3 and the most totaled 11. let's say only one was hit more than 3 times. That equals 6X3 = 18 rounds plus 11 = 29 rounds. He still had to kill 19 more people and injure 2 others.

Let's say 3 rounds for each of those victims and one for the injury.

19X3 = 57 + 2 = 59

59 rounds plus 29 rounds = 88 rounds.

Now then, that is 3 magazines. Maximum rate of aimed fire for the AR 15 is 45 rounds per minute, with 15 per minute being the max to avoid overheating.

So, if he shot for 2 minutes without missing he would have achieved the max aimed firing rate, and he would have done so with many moving targets in all directions.

This ignores the fact that he didn't fire with 100% accuracy, I feel pretty confident with that.

If he fired 15 rounds per minute, it would have taken him 6 minutes to hit 88 out of 90 shots, an amazing 98-99%, again with many moving targets.

911 calls say guns are being shot and within single digit minutes police were on the seen.

So let's say he had 10 minutes and he shot 45 rounds (max aimed) per minute. That's 450 rounds in 10 minutes. That means he would only have hit on 20% against many moving targets. Certainly a more believable ratio, but the 450 rounds is not.

Here is what 400 rounds in 4 minutes looks like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzfm4pYhIyY

The hand guard is on fire and the gas port is melted. It is simply not likely that this happened the way that we are being told.

Loved the SKS

I think the SKS is a chinese made AK 47, and the one I had would spit out bullets endlessly. The gun NEVER jammed. It was an older one too, nothing fancy, and had 30 round clips, would tape two together and flip them. Even if it hadn't been cleaned since the last hundreds of rounds, it never jammed. Now I wish I had never got rid of it. :( It was old, beat up, loose action on it and bought it with clips for $100 at a bar in alaska...lol Thems were the days.

Don't get discouraged.

There has been a massive push from notable pundits around the U.S. to, in my opinion, discourage active truth-seeking into the events at Sandy Hook and other events. Glenn Beck, and more locally, I just heard Gary Nolan, former Libertarian Party candidate for president and radio talk show host call out and basically disparage truth seeking members of the libertarian party and others who are still actively investigating the events on Dec. 14. I know there are others and I actually like most of what Nolan brings to the table, but these two are on the top of my head since I just heard them talking about the matter this morning as if they're just sooo tired of it. It's like they're saying, "Gosh, just stop with all the asking questions nonsense."

Yet, their own conclusions into the Sandy Hook events are pure conjecture, nothing more. They claim they are debunking the whole alternative theory even though in reality they only debunk maybe one question or two out of hundreds that are now being raised by concerned people across they world.

And even when they claim they are the debunkers, for example Beck, he is actually merely compiling debunking theories that others came up with a long while ago and taking credit for it. For example, the picture of Madeliene Parker with the president. Beck acts as if he did that. But that was debunked almost a month ago. Yet, just because they bring up that one issue, that one mistake, all of the other questions surrounding the events are now null and void of credibility?

And these people, Beck and Nolan, are supposedly versed in socialist/facsist/communist history? Nolan asks in a nutshell: are we supposed to believe that an entire state and local police dept. is in on the conspiracy or they agreed to lie to the entire nation? My answer: I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. It is still being looked into. We really don't have all of the information yet and I find it unwise to jump to conclusions yet. But just because you raise that question does not mean there can be no alternative theories.

Don't they realize that entire sections of government have been in on conpiracies before in the Soviet Union, in Germany, in other socialist countries who have an agenda against certain rights or freedoms of their contituencies? For example, the former Soviet Union's coverup of the murder rate and serial murders in the 40s and 50s in order to paint a picture of a communist state as infallible and without murder or corruption. Entire local or national agencies were complicit with these coverups whether they knew it or not. There's also the issue of compartmentalization. A good fiction book on this murder coverup topic in the Soviet Union is Child 44 by Tom Rob Smith. I highly recommend it.

Point is, Beck and Nolan are pundits whose job has revolved around questioning certain aspects of government and believing in and promoting what could be deemed conspiracies of their own (such as the conspiracy that Ron Paul supporters are dangerous). Yet, for some reason, when it comes to these mass shootings that always seem to be followed by national discussions of our rights being stripped from us, we're just supposed to believe what the government has to say or what the media says. Even when they've proven themselves to be incompetent with regards to telling the truth or at least the whole story time after time after time. That doesn't sit well with me, and I don't care if they were local cops or state cops saying these things. Local police and communities have been infiltrated before, why not now? I'm not saying that's the case. I'm merely saying the verdict is still out on this case despite the bullying by some people who think we're not helping the debate for liberty and gun rights with our "crazy theories".

To that, I ask what could be more helpful than finding a truth so damning that it completely pulls the rug out from under the feet of the people and groups pushing for tyrannical gun control measures?

I still think there's so much more to this. Don't give up the search, no matter how long it takes. Don't get discouraged by name calling and conjecture. Point it out and keep fighting. I was once a neo-con warmonger myself, but active truth-seeking individuals like many on DP and other sites were determined to find and expose information that eventually helped me look at the world in a whole new way.

Why does it seem like no one is asking for the video

surveillance tape from Dick's Sporting Goods from Dec. 11 when Lanza allegedly entered the store, asked one of the employees about a gun, was denied, and then left? Dick's has to have gobs of surveillance video up in their store, so why does it seem like no one is focusing in on that aspect? Has anyone tried to retrieve this video from Dick's? Has it been apprehended by the police? Is anyone in contact with the store managers at Dick's to confirm that Lanza actually was there that day? If they say that he was, why shouldn't the video be made available to the public? Is there a price on that video or is it simply being supressed much like the supposed video that is allegedly of James Holmes at the movie theater, standing by the concession stand with a skull cap in order to hide his orange hair before the shooting there in July. Is Lanza wearing a skull cap when he enters Dick's, if he did at all? Does anyone know if these angles have been looked into yet? I know we're never going to get to see the video of Lanza supposedly arguing with staff at the school days before like what has been alleged, but can we at least be granted access to what Dick's may have? Maybe I'm just late to that party but it seems like a pretty credible avenue to take.

Not him [Lanza]

In the case of Lanza, was on the news, it turned out not to be Lanza at the store trying to buy a gun. They said the clerk said it wasn't him from a picture he was given of Lanza by police. No additional information was given.

Deekey

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST!

There is no evidence to back up this stuff (official story). You're supposed to have faith. Faith in a government that steals from you and faith in a media that lies to you.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Keep up the good work.

I have limited bandwidth use so had to stop looking into all of this. Was trying to find out about Lanza. Strange he didn't exist as far as anyone in the town was concerned except the one who [ahem] knew his mother, the great teacher there at the school and knew Lanza too. [That was a lie] Waiting to hear my bandwidth is available to continue. Anyone else following this part up? Thank you to everyone trying to find the truth out of the mess we were and are told!

Deekey

Check out these.....

Add these two things up: Investigate ONE parent, Veronique P. Pozner:

http://www.dailypaul.com/270949/only-those-who-question-the-...

And ESPECIALLY the "memorandum" her and her family sent to the Whitehouse:
http://media.nbcbayarea.com/documents/Pozner+Family+Memorand...

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

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Wow! This memorandum reads like an E.O.

How could a family mourning the murder of a child come up with this legalistically written document? It must have been pre-written, like the Patriot Act was written before 9/11. Thanks.

Veronique's brother is an attorney

Same guy who set up the website the day Noah died, complete with donation request.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

We should ask ourselves

if this is the way we, or a family member, would react. I'd kick a relative's behind for being so crass as to set up a website asking for money when I just lost a child.

Setting up a website for people all over the world to express their condolences, I can understand that. What's the purpose of a website soliciting money for the family?

It's pretty crass.

If you watch the interviews, this attorney will make you want to take a shower just for watching him.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

And we're supposed to believe that these people are "mourning"..

Who would do that the same day? NO ONE!!!!!

Oh, yeah, that's just a "conspiracy theory". We should all shut up and go away.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

I agree.

Strange way of mourning.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

And

maybe propaganda performer Glenn Beck will debunk this next.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

Maybe Should Bombard

Glenn Beck with pure evidence sent to him and notes reflecting that here is the evidence, if you choose to not show it in it's entirety, or manipulate it for your presentation, they you too will be complicit in this crime.

When it does get fully exposed, record of your actions will be kept and charges filed.