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What has happened to this website since November?

This place went from liberty and freedom to aliens, conspiracy, haarp, etc....

Go to abovetopsecret, beforeitsnews, etc....for all that.

Also, if its on info wars, it may not be gospel....

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Again, the conspiracy you're looking for...

happens openly every single time a liberty-destroying bill is passed or a fiat dollar is printed. It's really not that complicated.

I don't play, I commission the league.

We are discussing...

... issues concerning life and death. Most importantly we are seeking truth. Perhaps you would like to join us. Otherwise just keep ignoring these topics and move along.

Without truth there can be no justice and without justice we will never have liberty!

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"The greatest mystery of all is truth." - Me, 2009

People like you aren't seeking truth...

you're seeking 100% agreement with your OPINIONS of the truth.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Typical close minded response.

If people handn't spoken to me or exposed me to many of these issues I would have never found out about the threat to our freedom and Ron Paul.

This movement is not a single tear movement. It has many facets and you will just have to deal with the fact that we aren't going anywhere.

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"The greatest mystery of all is truth." - Me, 2009

News flash, the government is

News flash, the government is going to do whatever the puppet masters want.

Don't like it? March on Washington with 10000 strong and make a change. Not willing to do that?

All I'm saying is the 30 posts about ssris, sandy hook must be a false flag because someone got shot, etc....aren't helping the original mission of this site: " Dedicated to restoring constitutional government to the united states of America"

Actually those topics were

Actually those topics were okay before too. Before the Obot trolls took over I mean.

Yeah...

the overzealous conspiracy pushers are the reason why I've barely visited or posted here since November.

It gets tiresome seeing people trip all over themselves in a race to be the first to scream "FALSE FLAG!!!111one" at anything bad that ever happens. I also got tired of being called a "sheep" and a "government operative" for thinking critically instead of mindlessly consuming every theory Alex Jones or NaturalNews puts out there.

The government has plenty of corruption in it, but that corruption is blatantly obvious. Sometimes bad things happen to good people and there's really no good reason for it. The sooner people accept these truths, the easier it will be to draw people into the liberty tent, because right now, the conspiracy obsessions just make our movement look like a lunatic fringe.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Yep

I guess the idea premised in allowing this to go on is that the pursuit of the truth is a pillar of liberty.

But there is a complete contradiction between the statist nature of many of these conspiracies, and having libertarian discussions. Not even Lindsey Graham would think the government capable of filling a town with actors and faking Sandy Hook.

I highly doubt that this site will continue to be able cater to both of these fractions. Eventually this will just become the Daily David Icke.

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But there is a complete contradiction between the statist nature of many of these conspiracies, and having libertarian discussions.

Bingo. I have yet to hear a reasonable explanation of how our government could possibly be simultaneously bloated and incompetent and able to pull off a massive false-flag attack without the truth eventually leaking out, just like it did with Watergate, Iran Contra, and the Pentagon Papers.

In their rush to chase after the latest "false flag," people are losing sight of the OPEN conspiracy to erode our liberties and debase our currency that happens every single day.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Bingo

And I am right there with you regarding my visitations to this site. Dr. Paul and what I learned over the past year at the DP inspired me to do more locally and help foster a culture of a responsible use of public funds at my state government position. People around me have taken notice and are looking at things differently, more seriously considering the source of the money, and caring more about how it is used. Since the election ended, almost nothing written here at the DP has inspired me, and many of the people whose opinions I respected have abandoned it.

Fight the open conspiracy and get directly involved in your community. Keep fighting to end the Fed. Politely debate those around you the negative effects of foreign incursions. The DP became an important force during the election cycle, and other media outlets took notice. These issues were heard by many more people and certainly woke many of them up. One look at the DP today, and most would click away as fast as possible.

With liberty and justice for all...who can afford it.

I'm looking at

ronpaulforums.com . Looks like this site is moderated. Even the thread entitled "education" is devoid of theories that Sandy Hook was committed by extraterrestrials backed by Israel.

Although not nearly as popular...

I find the discussion there more to my tastes. That is nothing against others here who are doing what they think is right at the DP.

With liberty and justice for all...who can afford it.

PLUS 10000000! Thank you for

PLUS 10000000!
Thank you for more eloquently capturing my original intent of this post.

Welcome back.

The inmates are running the asylum now. There was even a David Icke topic the other day.

HAARP is a conspiracy?

Is this the "conspiracy" you speak of?

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

The HAARP program is well known, and its existence is certainly NOT a conspiracy theory.

The government and the MSM tell me that the drone war program is a “precision strike” and only used on active imminent threats. I know this to be a COMPLETE LIE, as does anyone who has read the Stanford/NYU paper on the subject.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/25/study-ob...

I’m sure that they are completely forthcoming about a DARPA project, though. ;)

Just open the box and see

I agree that its a fact, I

I agree that its a fact, I mean people blaming it for every breeze or sprinkle.

Indeed

I really don't know if it is used for nefarious purpose or not, but, in light of what I do know about our corrupted government, I wouldn’t put anything past them.

No one can deny the weather changes that have been experienced on the earth in the last few decades. If they are indeed experimenting with weather control all strange weather phenomenon are suspect, up to the global warming. If they are playing with this stuff, they have NO idea what chaos they could cause, and aren’t likely concerned by it either.

There is an accord to ban weather control weapons of war. Would there need to be a ban on a technology that was absolutely nonexistent?
http://www.un-documents.net/enmod.htm

Here is one person’s timeline for weather control technology
http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1206.cfm

Here is another “conspiracy” for you.

http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html

The gun grab is just another step in the furtherance of that program.

The truth is, all these so called "conspiracy's" are a direct attack on liberty, and should be exposed for what they are.

While I agree that sometimes things get a little goofy, and people sometimes get off and running with little or no evidence, based only their own fears, I believe that classifying legitimate questioning as "conspiracy" though, is dangerous, and the "go to" move for the MSM and the "transparent" government. In a truly transparent government, all questions could be easily answered. The harder it is to get an answer, the more it smacks of cover up.

To allay a true questioner, why not try to answer their questions, even if they seem ridiculous?

When a child asks, “why is the sky blue?” the answer “because it is” is wholly unsatisfying.

Just open the box and see

How about we all talk about

How about we all talk about where Dr. Paul should go on vacation during his retirement?

P.S. the blatant and obvious conspiracies are taking your freedoms and liberties.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

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I hear the weather is nice

in Bora Bora this time of year. That's my vote for vacation plans.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

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So......

You're saying you don't believe in aliens?

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

Why don't you spend some time researching some

archived stuff on this site and get up to speed and stop posting crap like this.

"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." (Dr. Seuss)

The country is falling apart,

The country is falling apart, that's whats happening. Just because it's a conspiracy doesn't mean it isn't true.

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I agree and I believe it puts

I agree and I believe it puts new people off. That mental junk food degrades the entire site. Although it seems it is only a couple of people that are posting this stuff consistently nearly every day throughout the day, it would be nice if there was a feature to block viewing posts by user when setting up your home page to avoid them entirely. Maybe, I will suggest it when I make a donation. Until then benefits of good info still out weigh sorting through the nuttiness of the few. Ah, the charms of a truly open forum...

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.