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Fake Skeptics & The "Conspiracy Theorist" Slur

From Storm Clouds Gathering. Also posted on the Daily Paul here: Worth A Look - New Video from SCG.

http://youtu.be/0BJA1R8YIHk

"State sponsored history, the version touted in public schools, and preached over the mainstream media is the mythology of the state, and it is as essential to its existence as creation stories are to any religion."




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sharkhearted's picture

You are wrong wrong WRONG about this video

It is not a WASTE of time.

It needs to be seen and heard by every rational American on this continent.

As far as the disinformation troll comment. Please show me where I call YOU that?

Yeah and at this point...when the HARD EVIDENCE about 9-11 has become INCONTROVERTIBLE...and people like Dick Cheney are still walking free....there is a sense of URGENCY and a line needs to be drawn in the sand.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Anybody notice that

The hallmark of all conspiracy theorists (notice I didn't say those who have a healthy skepticism of the official story, because there is a difference) is that everything, and I mean everything supports their theories. Point and case you think that just because some of us disagree with you we are 'disinformation trolls'? Chris, listen to yourself. You sound ridiculous.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

sharkhearted's picture

Because the evidence here is OBVIOUS.

Did I call you a "disinformation troll"? No iI did not. but if the shoe fits...

3000 innocent people died that day. 6000 of our troops have died because of that day. Two thirds of the Ground Zero workers who were called there because of that day. have developed chornic problems and some had died because the Bush Admin told the EPA to lie about the conditions there and to KEEP WORKING.

There is a sense of urgency about this and people like YOU do not help!

And might I say: The REAL conspiracy is the official government "story" about how 19 muslim men from halfway around the world, armed only with just box cutters, managed to hijack and penetrate the most heavily guarded airspace in the world, not once, but four jets, and expertly fly them into buildings by men who failed their piloting exams...and how just two of those planes somehow managed to bring down in complete destruction two of the strongest and most massive office skyscrapers in the world...and then bring down a THIRD skyscraper that day...that was not even hit by a jet.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

This does not belong on the DP

here is my supporting proof, watch it, it will take you 15 seconds: http://youtu.be/v60TWZNVgtk?t=35s

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

sharkhearted's picture

Ron Paul has been calling for a new investigation of 9-11

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~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Where/When did he say that?

Can you prove that? Anyway, I agree a new investigation would be good! It couldn't hurt at least. But from what I've seen he won't touch 9/11 theories with a 10-foot pole.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

sharkhearted's picture

HERE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

AND HERE: RON PAUL QUESTIONED ABOUT 911

Why would Ron Paul say he would support a new 911 investigation, if he thought the "official" government story was correct? Just asking.... He says there are usually coverups in government investigations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d91a13Yr3oQ

And why would he say we should end the CIA because there has been a coup?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dECSYm5bSM

Ron Paul knows what is going on. He knows how these terrorist groups are set up and used by the CIA and other central intelligent networks in other countries to create reasons to attack or regime change. Ron Paul knows when they do this, it could create blowback.

It's the Hegelian dialectic of problem-reaction-solution. Attack yourself or create the atmosphere to be attacked, blame your enemies, and tell the public you can protect them if they give up their freedoms. It's win-win for the global elite who are behind all of this to create their World/Global Federation of Nations.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100003035859289&sk=info

Ok, I'll be a skeptic

How do we know that the video with the announcer saying building seven had collapsed didn't have the building photo shopped in behind her?

What Hollywood could have done, was possible

That is self evident. What could Hollywood have created?

Create something and record it (or save it on hard drives), have it broadcasted as a live news report, on all TV networks simultaneously, and replay it over and over again until the viewers themselves starts to spread the story, and they will have crated a new reality. Label dissidents as unpatriotic or conspiracy theorist.

There are excellent opportunities if you can control the news networks.

AJ will not talk so much about this. The controlled opposition never does. Blame the Government's lies, but never talk about medias involvement in this operation.

You mean like...

A double green screen?
perhaps... But it wasn't!

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

sharkhearted's picture

Your observations are naive

The BBC admitted to a mistake and apologized....but couldn't explain this anachronism.

I suppose the BBC could have the building photoshopped LIVE while she was standing there...lol....but why would they incriminate themselves like that?

You are not being "skeptical." Just uninformed.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Posts Like These Are A Waste Of Time

And they accomplish nothing productive. I honestly like 'Storm Clouds Gathering' and will continue to follow his films, but this one just seems an unnecessary foray from what we are trying to what we are trying to do here at the DP. Unify not divide.

It doesn't matter if you are a Truther or not. Those that are convinced are convinced, those that are not do not need to be. What matters most is that all of us here ARE AWAKE to the creeping tyranny that has infected this nation. Maybe that awakening was the 9/11 story or maybe it was just seeing the wars/patriot act/ etc. It is very little consequence now so long as we agree that we're here to support liberty.

I'll however will not be down-voting the film. I just wish people could have a little more tact before posting stuff like this here. And by "this" I don't simply mean 9/ll Truther info, I mean a video which draws a nasty stupid line through the ranks for no reason.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

when did free speech and discussion

Become a waste of time?

Is that an executive order I wasnt made aware of?

If so I do not consent.

"The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle."

Separate issues

But you do have a point.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

I mean I see what you are saying I guess

But one mans waste of time is anothers productive, creative and meaningful use of time.

Only time will really tell:

What if 100 years from now a generation looks back on 'conspiracy theories' as the first swing of the axe that brought the tree down?

Or they may look and see only fools chasing the wind.

We cannot know from our current vantage point, so we must press on and learn from the past.

"The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle."

sharkhearted's picture

If anyone is drawing a "nasty stupid line" through the ranks...

...here...it is you.

Your post here is nonsensical and contradictory.

Stormcloudsgathering made a great presentation and there is a REASON it is posted at the top of the page on the Dailyl Paul.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

C'mon Chris

What did I say that's divisive? I said that we need to put aside our different beliefs in a common cause and I get lit up for it? Are you assuming I don't believe what Storm Clouds is saying? Because that's not true either, it's just irrelevant.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

It doesn't matter if you are

It doesn't matter if you are a truther eh? Well, that makes as much sense as someone saying correct history telling doesn't matter. Our entire foreign policy is built on a lie! Of course it matters. What a ridiculous comment to make. Truth ALWAYS matters.

You Are Putting Words In My Mouth

I NEVER said that the Truth does not matter. And I demand an apology.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

"It doesn't matter if you are

"It doesn't matter if you are a Truther or not" You said it, I didn't. What do you think "Truther" means?

So, are you calling Ron Paul,

So, are you calling Ron Paul, who dismisses the inside job theory as nonsense, a liar? If so you are on the wrong site.

Jefferson's picture

Quotes

"Number 7 is the one that's most suspicious, I mean It came down a little differently." Ron Paul

"I've said many times that the investigation did nothing but cover up the truth." Ron Paul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_ADYLUOk1I&feature=youtu.be

I've had personal conversations with one of RP's brothers at the dinner table and he shares the same view on WTC 7. In fact he started to get into so much detail of the event that his wife had to scoop him up and and say "don't get him started on this, we'll be here all night."

So you can make of that what you will.

Personally, I think you'd have to be a fool to think a building that is designed to handle earthquakes and hurricanes would fall like a house of cards in roughly 7 seconds.

Ron Paul on the inside job theory

http://youtu.be/v60TWZNVgtk?t=35s

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

Jefferson's picture

What we

have are two different videos from two different periods of time. Yours was from when he was a candidate for President and being bullied by the host.
Mine is from AFTER the campaign and toward the end of his Congressional career. Which interview do you think he is going to speak more candidly in?

"The BIG question is WHO'S behind it, and what's the MOTIVATION. Was it just uhh...total ineptness, AND maybe THEY had OTHER reasons. Number 7 is the one that's most suspicious." Ron Paul

You're not going to get a better public answer from this man that is telling you that what we were fed is huge steaming pile of bullshit.

Ron Paul knows about PNAC, he also knows about General Wesley Clark telling about how they had plans to go into Iraq long before it happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7NsXFnzJGw
I PERSONALLY sent him the Clark video, and KNOW he received it. I wrote him throughout the campaign and it was forwarded DIRECTLY to his personal email. I confirmed this with him face to face, which is reflected in my profile pic. (that's me just behind Benton's belly)
Even though I have not had private conversations with him about this subject, I can confidently state that I believe what he says publicly, and what he thinks privately, are TWO different things. You believe what you want though.

One Does Not Need To Know Where Wind Comes From To Sail

Even if Dr. Paul didn't believe the evidence folks have on 9/11 he is completely capable of seeing the effect that have resulted from the power grab of those that seek to enforce tyranny on the people.

Knowing everything is not always necessary even though it is preferable. Votes are votes, and opposing tyranny is still opposition in a righteous cause no matter the reason why they choose to do so.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

So Ron Paul doesn't "know"

So Ron Paul doesn't "know" the truth that 9-11 was in an inside job? Is he an idiot or merely a bald-faced liar? If you are right, there is no third option. Answers please.

Seems Pretty Firm Against Here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v60TWZNVgtk

And please stop operating under the assumption that I support the "Official Story" I DON'T.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

Your post is confusing.

Your post is confusing. Believing in an "official story" and rejecting wacky inside job theories are not the same thing. It is always good to skeptical of the official story but that doesn't mean a person is a truther if he is.

watch it, it's 15 seconds long

http://youtu.be/v60TWZNVgtk?t=35s

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson