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Just Went to Activist Post and Am Freaking Out - Anonymous Calls for Violence?

I guess Anonymous is calling for violent civil war?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG_u9TbzRwA&feature=player_em...

Great, there's the false flag. It probably won't even be real idiots, just fake ones.

Internet kill switch, full patriot act, NDAA domestically, drone assassination. Peaceful assembly, until they FIND A TERRORIST working for the 'rebels' in your group and you ALL go to jail.

Seems so simple, yet, seriously?

Is Activist Post always this s*%t crazy?

Plus there's these "American Militia" guys calling for civil war. Great (Sarcastically).

I wish I could say this is a good time to pump my idea of a peaceful assembly of the people: http://www.dailypaul.com/271276/finally-this-is-how-we-rewri...

Really though, I'm freaked out. Time for bed or something.




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they (anon)

Shouldn't be trusted. Think about it. Why would you MBB AME your group after the most widely used handle in the world?

Anyone calling for violence is most likely working for the ruling class, who are desperate for justification to bring the US into lockdown.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

The thing about anonymous is...

is that absolutely anybody can call them self anonymous and say anything they want, it isn't some big organized group with membership cards.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

They are

pretty big. Their youtube channel has 30K subscribers and almost 2 million views. Not just anybody can do that.

http://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialAnonymousTV1?feature=watch

You don't understand

There is no one group called anonymous, its a concept.

ANONYMITY

Their is no central office that hands out membership cards, anybody, anywhere, anytime, can call themselves anonymous.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Incorrect

There is a loose organization that calls themselves Anonymous (capitalized 'A').

This organization has done many notable things in the past including hacking high profile websites as well as calling for "occupying" places like Wall Street and that supposedly secret location a certain fraternity of presidents has went to (that street name escapes me right now - edit found it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove).

You or I cannot control that YouTube channel.

That YT channel is not everyone who claims 'Anonymous'

And can't claim to speak for everyone who does, its one youtube channel among a sea of differing opinions.

The point I'm trying to make is don't take the video seriously, there aren't legions of Anonymous that are going to simultaneously rise up and spark a civil war.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Don't be

so sure. Obviously SOMEBODY has control over that channel with those huge viewership numbers. I believe there is a similar Twitter account controlled by this organization I'm talking about.

I agree with you nobody has membership cards. The organizational structure is also very lose. For example, there were some hackers that broke away from Anonymous early on and became LulzSec, hacking other sites (like Sony) because they disagreed with the direction of Anonymous.

I watched as Anonymous called for occupying the Bohemain Grove, and then Wall Street. There were people at Occupy Wall Street with the Guy Fawkes mask because of this.

All I'm saying is as a semi-organized group they have a lot of people that listen to them. I agree it's unlikely they have enough clout to induce civil war, though.

since they are "anonymous"

I just assume its the government. How much easier could they make it for themselves? They are a group who are faceless. Geez, it could be " anybody". If violence is sparked by Anonymous... assume it is government.

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Anonymous

is not the government. Trust me.

I think some are or could be faking it

but there is no proof and I doubt we'd ever see any if there was. People think they're CIA because they call for, what "they" (people accusing) believe is exactly what the government wants. That in itself isn't proof of anything.

Do I believe the government wants war? Yep.
Do I think we should shy away from something because it's in their plans? Nope, not necessarily, because we're fucked if we do and fucked if we don't.. so to me it boils down to what I think will effect the most change.

Do I want a civil war? Uh hell no.. If hypothetically, I did participate, I'd be branded by many in the nation as terrorists. The news would be the first to start that talk and it would spread like wildfire. I'd have to hide the best I could in plain sight, scared of getting caught. Why scared? Because I would bet my life and I would be literally that I'd be tortured for possible information on others whether I worked alone or not. Waterboarding? That's child's splay to the kind of shit they'd probably do to me.

Do you or anyone else think a person wants that to happen? Do you think we want to be martyrs? Well you'd be crazy as fuck if you did think so..

People that would be willing to go through that kind of hell which includes soldiers, oathkeepers firefighters and the average Joe's don't want to die anymore than the next human but neither as you've seen in the headlines will they stand by and watch them take our last guarantee against tyranny. These people aren't standing up because it's cool. They understand something that many do not.. They understand the importance of Liberty and the dire need to protect it in ANY way possible.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

It's not

that cut and dry. You say you believe "the government" wants war. You can't possible say that, because the government consists of a lot of things, including your mailman, for example. It also has people like Rand Paul and Dennis Kucinich who adamantly defend the Constitution. I also don't think House Speaker John Boehner wants to kill you, for the matter of that.

There are definitely hidden forces trying to influence politics, though. How successful they are at that depends on us, and the people are waking up.

And those forces would hurt you if you tried to move towards

Liberty, you'd be naive if you think differently. History is on my side for that.

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"If violence is sparked by Anonymous... assume it is government"

"If violence is sparked by Anonymous... assume it is government."

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

The tyrannical governments' subversion recipes against their people have been known for like, what? ... Thousands of years.

I find just inexplicable that anybody could -STILL- ever buy into them.

In 2013.

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No, Anonymous

that is not the right way.

The system is already crumbling financially. It doesn't need any help. There are still too many that don't understand. They have to understand first.

We still have our guns. That's all that matters.

"We still have our guns."

Feinstein bill introduced today.

"That's all that matters."

No... it's not but it IS the last thing left.. If they succeed in passing a gun ban, you only have a short time to act. If you do nothing, then we'll know "We still have our guns." was just bullshit for you. A false security blanket that you happily gave up. If we have no guns, we have no freedom.

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I meant

that's where to draw the line. Anonymous is effectively calling for violence already. That's not the way to go. Nobody has taken our guns. What Anonymous should have said is be ready. That's entirely different.

Okay, sorry.

I don't agree wholeheartedly though. I think we should have done something a long time ago. Being brought to the point of having your guns taken is way too far.

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Well the

thing is politics is about opinion, and those can change. There are a lot of people that think that reasonable gun control isn't such a bad idea. I'm ashamed to say I once entertained that idea too (way long ago I swear).

In the original American Revolution colonists endured far worse before going to war. Violent government overthrow isn't something to take lightly.

"In the original American Revolution colonists endured far worse

before going to war. Violent government overthrow isn't something to take lightly."

Should we wait till we equal the kind of tyranny they received? The idea behind knowing history concerning this issue is so that we don't repeat their mistakes. They even spoke to waiting too long.

""God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

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(((((Our Nation Is Dying)))))

Before anything, I would call upon EVERY Constitution-abiding American to unite for one final protest. I would call upon EVERY Constitition-abiding American to participate in a coordinated and scheduled stand outside the White House, larger than any million man march ever seen in history.

This is our duty. This is our right. The ones who work for us should meet their employers, peaceably, but head on.

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Before you do that it would be good to see what happened

when others stood outside the whitehouse in protest. If you dont think they will call the army out or if you think the army wont follow orders to attack you. Just do a quick research study on "The Bonus Army" They tryed standing out side the whitehouse as well. Ill warn you that they never tought about the bonus army in any public school text.

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I'll take the first hit to

I'll take the first hit to spark it off.

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If this would ever come

If this would ever come to fruition, I will stand center front.

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Hmmm...

At first I was all for anonymous... Now, I don't know. It seems more and more likely that if our horrible leaders turn out to be more than that, part of some larger force of global evil, they would have the capabilities to do almost anything they please. If anonymous posed that much of a threat to them, they would be shut down by any means necessary. They would also have the means to BE anonymous. This goes for Alex Jones and the like. I'm not saying what is real, what is staged, who is champion of liberty, or who is a double agent. I'm just saying, soak up all the information you can and THINK for yourself.

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Anonymous WHO ?

Anonymous WHO ?

...

Okay, just teasing.

Meh. Anonymous is supposedly a bunch of bunches of individuals all over the place who don't even know each other... though having a common, say, "cause".

I never really could understand how that could even ever work, considering the fact that likely 99% of them are potentially "spyable" by dear US gov't in under a 10 minutes setup, coffee pause included. Cream plus sugar, thanks.

Now... for (maybe) the remaining 1% or a little more who consider themselves safer and really mean what they say... well, on that one you found, let's just hope (for him/her) that he/she just had a bad day.

Either that or... it's one of our dear good old CIA bureaucrat buddies doing his/her shift. Bah, they've got to bring bread to their table, too, don't they, poor things?

I don't think anyone of us condone violent action a priori, on here the Daily Paul.

Likewise, I don't think it'd be of interest to any.

(?)

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I'm just

worried about false flags. I mean, imagine a 'successful' militia attack on a government building. How would liberty survive.

If the whole patriot movement becomes 'people who might bomb people' and we're all spied upon like the middle easterners? And renditioned or whatever.

It's freaky. Anonymous seems sort of silly, but they make headlines, and it freaks me out that calls for violence would be that close to the headlines.

We haven't begun to even fight on the timid peaceful timid front.

Anonymous???

My nephew tried to tell me he was with anonymous and had to do something to stop the evil gov. The kid couldn't hack his way out of a card board box if you gave him a machete let alone hack any network. He maybe download some software to do a denial of service on some website once, but I doubt It.

Lots of talk out there. Lots of people make claims to be people they are not.

You know how you spot a government informant in the movement? The ones calling for violence are the government informants. They probably got some good gear. Take it from them inspect it. Then say thanks if it legit. If its not legit call the sheriff and get them arrested!