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Rand Paul: An attack on Israel is an attack on the United States

Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul took what very well could be considered his most pro-Israel stance yet, saying in an interview that an attack on Israel should be treated as an attack on the United States.

Asked whether the United States would stand with Israel and provide it foreign aid if the Jewish state were attacked by its enemies, Paul went a step further.

“Well absolutely we stand with Israel,” he said in an interview with Breitbart News, “but what I think we should do is announce to the world – and I think it is pretty well known — that any attack on Israel will be treated as an attack on the United States.”

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Honestly

Honestly, what has he accomplished? Which of his bills have been passed? Which laws has he erased? How much has he helped decrease taxes?
Oh, but he is good at being a smartass to the Dems while pandering to the religious right...

Try to ignore my jerkiness and explain what he has accomplished.

“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

Careful

I am not a Rand fan - and after this and realizing he has been completely turned by the Christian Zionists - I am more anti-Rand. He has gone from stopping foreign aid to "everyone but Israel". Yep, defending the genocidal maniacs who use my money to kill litte brown children - how cute.

But, as to your criticism, that is the same and most common argument levelled against Ron Paul. He didn't really accomplish anything either, at least legislatively. Short of getting people talking about the FED - which is awesome - but he failed with his legislation.

I was hoping Rand would follow in the same character of standing for the Constitution and us - but alas he has turned into a born-again nutball with no regard for the people or their money or civil rights.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

I understand. I was

I understand. I was referencing the post above mine which stated that Rand has done good things. I'd just like to know what.

And, Ron Paul may be a good teacher, but his inability to get anything done in addition to the campaign team he surrounded himself with gives evidence that he would have been a poor leader. It is a very legitimate criticism.

“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

Justin Amash comes to mind

An alternative for a Presidential candidate would be Judge Napolitano - there's grassroots in the works to get that started already.

Daily caller: Rand is getting too popular, let's bash him on Isr

Instead of a story about Rand's latest performance with Clinton and Kerry, Daily Collar decides it's time to pull the Israel card.

Rand has made it perfectly clear he is opposed to PRE-EMPTIVE WAR, a Bush administration abomination the Obama admistration continues.

Rand has made it clear, that foreign aid, which includes the removal of troops, should happen in those nations where American's are being fought because they don't want our occupation.. Like his father, Ron Paul, we should, "Just get out."

This is not the case with Israel, where Rand made it clear, that he agreed with Netanyahu (and so does Ron Paul) That Israel does not need foreign aid from the USA to be a lap dog protecting American oil ventures and drug war fodder. Israel does not need that, and Rand is not offering that. But the NWO Trotskyists at Daily Collar (like a noose around one's neck) is mucking up Rand's words, and then mocking him because he made it clear he is interested in being president.

I agree with Rand on the position of Israel and foreign policy, which is not so extreme as Ron Paul.. but interesting.. as Ron Paul said he would not drop Americans off the social Security or welfare systems they are dependent, but rather give the youth CHOICES, the choice to not pay into social security.. and this can be applied to what Rand is sayind about Israel.. Israel is a friend.. and we need to respect Israel's independence and not fund them to control them. An attack on Israel is an attack on the USA because Israel helps American oil interests protect the property American oil corporations built in the mideast, so we can all drive around in gas engines.

When you get in your car today, Thank Israel, they've been there for you, suffered for the American government, from those who don't want American troops occupying their soil.. least you forget.. American tax dollars built those oil rigs in the mid east.. it is American oil companies that are being protected, so you want to give up what your grand parents invested, I suggest you sell your car, least you look like an ignorant, ungrateful hypocrite.

i think by "extreme" you mean ..

> "I agree with Rand on the position of Israel and foreign policy, which is not so extreme as Ron Paul."

i think by "extreme" you mean "rational".

No, I don't

Ron Paul's position was extreme, and why he was mis termed an "isolationist". He IS a non-interveinist and like Rand does not aupport pre-emtive war, however, Ron and Rand both believe in defense.

What a load of whooey! You have zero evidence of that.

You are deluded.

You are using logical fallacies. We don't get oil from Israel, and it is American companies, and companies like XE hired to protect sources, that deliver the oil from several Middle East sources.

Furthermore, Israel is not our friend. Nor, are they really a democracy. The same core group of people have run that nation for decades now. (Just like the USA)

All Israel has done "for" us is kill our servicemen on the USS Liberty, used their Mossad agents to plan and carry out 9/11, and accepted our gifts of phosphorus missiles to kill and burn little brown children in a concentration camp we call "Palestine". (Even Ron Paul agrees with that last one).

You have no evidence for your ridiculous claims. But, I'm sure you will make something up.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

We don't get oil from Israel

That's correct, we do not get oil from Israel.. we give Israel finacial aid to protect our oil interests, which Mossad is very good at, perhaps better than Blackwater and the like. American and Israel trrops train together in doing their part as well.

Israel is a parlimentary democracy.. that is a CIA fact check. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/...

U.S.S. Liberty was a spy ship that had no business spying on Israel and Israel defended it's self and America has hid the tragedy in shame. http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/eedition/ch...

Palestine is not guiltless in it's attack and using "little brown children" as your excuse is pathetic. Both Israel and Palestine have made grave errors to each other.. the problem being America the UN and other nations motivated by oil, drugs and communism (wiping out the greatest religious area on earth) funding to control both sides. http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/eedition/ch...

Again....

Evidence???

You claim Israel protects our oil companies, but alas no evidence. Strange....

Then, you use the FRICKIN' CIA! Yes, such a trustworthy source. The same people that put me on a list of possible "domestic dissidents". Nice. (Wait....do you work for them?)

The USS Liberty was a DESTROYER! A big ship with giant cannons! Not a stealthy spy ship. That is ridiculous and revisionist history - thanks to your CIA/Mossad again.

"Palestine is not guiltless in it's attack and using "little brown children" as your excuse is pathetic." -- Palestine didn't attack, it has been the Israelis over and over.

"(wiping out the greatest religious area on earth)" -- Well, that says it all right there. Thanks for the immoral wish for your astrological cult to be justification for deaths of innocents and the destruction of liberty. (by the way, you linked to the same article for the USS Liberty)

Thanks for proving you are not a Constitutionalist, anti-Ron Paul, and probably not even an American.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

A simple search and common sense

Israel protecting US oil there's hundreds of thousands, I just grabbed one off the top

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/07/newsweek-s-...

My father was a Tin Can Sailor.. Destroyers are us, and sorry U.S.S. Liberty was not commissioned as a destroyer but an INTEL.. equipted for spying ship.

Palestine even has their children attack.. time and time again it's one group to another who rise up against Israel.

I trued several times to give you a link to Arafat's wife telling about the training and groups he created to attack Israel.. sorry it did n;t work.

I was raised an an objectivist, and I don't miss it.. LOVE my Church and adore my God, and I'm happy. No apology from me.. LORD JESUS CRIST IS MY SAVIOR AND I LOVE LOVE LOVE HIM, my Church.. I'm so happy.

Too bad for you I'm elected on a committee, eh?

Glad you are happy

Have fun in your world - it is not the same as mine. I actually have to deal with something called reality.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

We get oil from...

from Israel's enemies.. that we invaded and now occupy.. or are threatening to invade and occupy.. or that we supply weapons to and that jump at every command and order to do our bidding... or that we supplied al qaeda with weapons to bring about "regime change". :)

All your enemies of Israel belong to us! ;(

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

We did not invade and then occupy

We made agreements in the mid east for oil. We built the oil business there, and then our enemies decided to break their agreement and take the facilities, we've had issues ever since.

Yes, we make and supply weapons, and compete with Israel, Russia, China and others.

Israel helps us keep us driving our cars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cOZpeb2d44

Nonsense...

google the following:

"petrodollar"
"mossadeq"
"CIA put Saddam in power"

enjoy... :)

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

Been well aware of all this for decades

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ok...

then you intentionally proffered a bogus argument. shame on you. :)

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

That would be incorrect

your suggestion was most interesting to me when I listened to what progressives were saying, but then, I listened to Ron Paul, and now Rand Paul, and along the way, I have come to realize that the petroldollar is fiat money, the CAI making Al Quada, and the BS you are offering from the old progressive regime in America is UN Agenda intel of the HATE AMERICA cult.

I don't hate, but LOVE America. And I really really like Rand Paul!

Now..

I question how much Ron Paul you've read and listened to. Add "Ron Paul" to all those search phrases and enjoy reading how Ron Paul has talked about those "progressive conspiracy theories" for DECADES. :)

Operation AJAX that overthrew Mossadeq in Iran and the CIA placing Saddam in power are all PUBLIC RECORD. The petrodollar is even more widely published.

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

Yes.. DECADES and no one listened unti the past half decade

PEAK OIL is also widely published.. so is Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny..

The fact remains, we are entangled and pre-emptive war is not a solution. Rand is offering a solution much like how Ron Paul offered the solution to social security.. cuts that do not hurt individuals/ friends, and options that make a new path,, freedom from the Bush doctorine.. I applaud Rand.

I can't imagine Rand devising an operation AJAX, sustaining a petrol dollar, or erecting dictators.

Peak Oil..

is a THEORY about FUTURE oil production levels.

Operation AJAX and the CIA putting Saddam in power is documented in the CIA's owns records as a past historical event.

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

Lololol

Please, you don't even need the article. All you need is his own quote.

“Well absolutely we stand with Israel,” he said in an interview with Breitbart News, “but what I think we should do is announce to the world – and I think it is pretty well known — that any attack on Israel will be treated as an attack on the United States.”

Entangling alliances, entangling alliances, entangling alliances. Let me guess...you think they're bad, but with Israel it's just fine.

Where is the word Pre-emptive?

I don't see the word Pre-emptive, and you know why? Becasue if Israel was attacked, it would not be pre-emptive but defending our friend, Isreal.

Were you born an idiot or did

Were you born an idiot or did you have to work at it?

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

Were you born a rude, arrogant SOB

or hatched?

Where in the Constitution

does it say we have the obligation to protect other countries?

Israel arguably has the greatest military force in the middle east, with enough nuclear bombs to blow up China and Russia with ease (not saying that's realistic).

Just as well, the Bible says Israel has God's divine protection (Zechariah 12:1-14), but the neo-conservatives seem to forget that verse when they send our boys off to die for wars that aren't our own.

So you admit, it does not say pre-emptive, thus you change topic

It does not say anywhere we have an obligation to protect, occupy, trade or even recognize any country. What's your point?

Israel has the greatest military in the world. Every citizen is trained, unless orthodox. Israel's nuclear weapons are more a problem than a blessing IMO.

And the Neoliberals like Biden seem to agree with the Neoconservatives IN PRE-EMPTIVE wars, which Rand Paul opposes.

What the hell does pre-emptive war

have to do with it? It's not our war! Period, end of story!

Pre-emptive war is a Neocon precident that has become

Neoliberals as well, and it is my point, that Rand opposes Per-emptive war, and what seperates him from the Neocons.

That's not what we're discussing

We're talking about the fact that Rand is willing to lead OUR country into a war that isn't ours.

It doesn't matter if he's opposed to pre-emptive war because Israel will do what it likes as it has done in the past. And they're free to do so, but I won't be drafted into a war I don't believe in.