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Hmmm... Let me think for sec...
I know it's not gonna be fun.
But I also know what I'm doing.
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No where to run to, no where to hide
I am not joking.....People are preparing to do just that...
If you have a big family you could buy a shipping container and bury it. Amazing how serious people are taking this...
If the Denver Airport is really the NWO underground shelter.. they have been prepping since George Bush the First.
If they can do it we can do it.
If you have a big family you could buy a shipping container and bury it.
Amazing how serious people are taking this...
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To think that the same Rothschild central bank would alow you to live free there but not here is unreasonable. The first thing is the extorted theft called tax it will still be imposed upon you, then they will have to protect you with their army so you will see cops and military. The real question is... who profits? The person that sells lots.
Me Ill be a free man where ever I am, and I will conduct myself as such. Ill avoid liars theives cheats and murders with my best abilities and fight them where plausable or possible.
I will not live my life in fear. Fear just usurps freedom. What you focus on is what you get and when you are fearful of the loss of you freedoms you may end up so focused on fear that you get the unintended focus, fear rather than the freedom you desire.
Its a choice and a decission its a responsibility.
Stop being manipulated by your own fears.
"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon
We do it over and over again. Iceland prosecuted and jailed those who became rich off the backs of the populace. The criminals responsible for our fail and bail,fail and bail, fail and bail are promoted and rewarded with our tax dollars every time.
After Hurricane IKE hit SE Texas coast, People rallied and helped one an other. Before IKE, people stripped the store shelves in greedy anticipation. Afterwards, they rallied and came together and helped one and other- and were pleasant to deal with.
All walks did this.
A collapse will be no different because people are getting prepared.
They have supplies and when left alone with their freedom, have good hearts.
It is the human way when the chips are down, most do the right thing.
If they didnt we wouldnt be here and would have not made it this far.
This collapse will usher in things not even dreamed of and life will become much much much easier. Technology is here and they printed enough money to bring it forward.
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What an eye-opener to participate in my little diverse sub-division's govt-free zone for a couple of weeks. And the closeness has waned a bit, but the feeling of self-reliance and sharing is not forgotten.
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you are comparing a country of 390,000 to a country of 320,000,000 which also happens to print the worlds reserve currency on worthless paper.
Iceland does not have Chicago, Detroit, LA and all the major areas that will turn into utter war zones in a major collapse.
and THAT is the difference!
Iceland, as a whole, was manageable. The good 'ol USA, as a whole, will be VERY hard to manage. It will all have to be done locally. (Like 10 different "Icelands").
I don't think this gentleman was talking about the average "joe". Once again, in "his" context, the context of millionaire finaciers, you should get very far away because your "wealth" will evaporate. The average "joe", you and I, will have to fall back on farming and self support to survive.
His utopia in Chile will be the same way (unless their money affords them Chilean workers to pamper them).
The problems I see that comes with the American collapse will be lawlessness or TOO much law where vigilante justice TAKES your assets to sustain them (God KNOWS they won't have a paycheck coming in), the challenge of self sustainability, and the threat of Chinese or UN intervention using our technology against us, i.e., drones, smart bombs, etc.
This is the second biggest reason why the 2nd amendment is so valuable to us (the first being tyranny that precedes the failure/collapse).
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like it was supposed to be.
I am not so sure he wasn't talking about the average joe though. I think he is trying to say you will be too close to the grabbing hands of the oligarchy, they won't let you work for yourself.
I don't know. It sure doesn't seem like I am going to be moving, so I hope you are right.
Now, thats a novel idea!
You make a very good point, HS. My only question is whether, or not, the oligarchy is still in power. I believe, if they are STILL in power, we won't have "collapsed".
Your thoughts? Thanks for the insight. Also, I know I won't be going to Chile or Costa Rica either so my family and I will have to make due here, too.
The reason I beleived he was talking about rich finaciers is because people like you and I couldn't, realistically, make that kind of "transfer" to Chile, could we? I would think you would have to have at least a million in transferable "wealth" to do it.
Good point. I thought about this a little bit.
I don't think it's guaranteed that the oligarchy will lose power. There are economic forces that they cannot control which at some point will cause a collapse, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to suddenly wake up. The oligarchy will do everything in their power to blame scape goats and divide people (like they always do). If people still believe the news and buy into the false l vs r paradigm, then they haven't lost power because they still control the masses minds. The internet and the r3VOLution give me some optimism. Ron Paul is a hero for the # of people he has reached (which is also why I wish Rand would be above politics too).
As far a transferring to chile, we could make the transfer, but at this point we have to much to lose here. People fled tyranny and showed up to America with absolutely nothing because it was their best option. I could do that, I could get there, and have a little to spare, but it doesn't seem smart because I have too much to lose here. but if I had nothing here and a fema camp to look forward too...
I think the amount you need is relative to the situation. This guy seems to think (IMO) that the situation is going to get so bad that it will be better off being as far away as possible.
But we cannot run forever. Thanks for making me think about this, I feel a little re-motivated. I think it's clear that our only course of action is to wake up as many people as possible.
Paradise on earth for libertarians?
Like American Express, the possibilities are endless;)
1. Japanese liquidity crisis leads to foreign U.S. Treasury run
2. Fed Reserve/Plunge Protection Team monetize massive debt purchases to hold interest rates down
3. Dollar confidence fails, dollar plunges, import prices rise radically
4. Corporate expenses explode, NPV of future cash flows go negative, markets go limit down.
5. Bank balance sheets erode. Runs ensue. Holiday declared
6. Fed begins swap arrangements, taking on bank assets with monetized debt.
7. Fed begins actively propping up the futures market with monetized dollars
8. Pensions confiscated, reinvested in Treasuries.
9. Domestic confidence fails. Prices surge.
10. Markets try to survive with alternative currencies and secured IOUs but congress intervenes. Congress enacts anti "gouging" laws and price controls. Massive shortages and supply dislocations result.
11. Shortages lead to rioting
12. Congress enacts gun confiscation
13. National Guard, then Army and Marines used to restore order in ghettos as government assistance payments no longer buy anything.
14. Massive layoffs trigger nationwide middle class protests
15. Government disperses the demonstrations. Many civilians killed by military.
16. Military has massive defections. Their operational effectiveness is compromised. Many junior officers are elevated in rank to fill the gaps.
17. A military coup is attempted but fails. Executive branch becomes paranoid, aggressive. The assert that the established order must be preserved at all costs.
18. Country dissolves into chaos with police departments and military divided between loyalists and localists. Economy goes completely underground.
19. Federal government funds itself exclusively by the printing press. Dollar is utterly destroyed.
similar to what I have thought.
Important thing(s) to do:
for those who believe in God, pray.
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
only this time it's our turn. I guess a formal declaration of WWIII is on the list somewhere.
For 600 years, repeating the same crime over and over again. The schools and Media pump into the heads of the debt slaves, HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF, so go back to sleep nothing to see here its just normal history cycle.
NO the truth is that a theif or any other parasite for that matter will never leave its host until its taken off or it kills its host.
So as long as there is a Rothschild central bank corporation issuing sovereign curency as compounding digital debt, you will be able to tell your children. Dont worry about it thats just normal human history repeating itself.
Me ill tell my children, thats the life cycle of a parasite, watch the parasite get fatter as it sucks the life out of humanity.
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BOJ is expanding its balance sheet, so I don't think liquidity is the problem, I think it's the fact that revenues will be exceeded by servicing the debt which will cause bond yields to rise and further exacerbate the deficit.
A bond market collapse in Japan would give a short term boost to US treasuries as a perceived safe haven.
I could be wrong on all of this, but I think the danger from Japan will hit first in the equities market, which could bring down some firms and institutions. If the fed intervenes to prop them up as yet more "too big to fail" then yes, that could spill over into the bond market here....I mean aren't we right on the edge already with QE4?
your other items all seem plausible to me...
just my two bits
#1 was referencing a Japanese crises requiring a BOJ selloff of U.S. Treasury holdings as opposed to a selloff of Japanese sovereigns.
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