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Meat and Dairy Cause Cancer (T. Colin Campbell)

Submitted by dinahtab on Sun, 01/27/2013 - 09:52
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Alarming speech by Dr. Campbell (the China Study), who actually grew up on a dairy farm himself but became a vegan after seeing the results from his own research: animal products and their link to cancer.

A practically lone voice crying in the wilderness, it seems, considering the popularity of the low carb diets and the high consumption of animal products in general. We (and I include myself as a cheese lover) only want to hear what we want to hear, but the truth always comes out sooner or later.

http://youtu.be/wcvC-hErx1g


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Philly Cheesesteak disagrees...

Submitted by JoshArizona on Wed, 04/10/2013 - 12:31.

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Mmmmm. Cancer on a bun.

Submitted by Michael Nystrom on Wed, 04/10/2013 - 22:06.

;-)

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Mmm...

Submitted by Musicians and H... on Tue, 04/23/2013 - 03:11.

bun cancer.

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Mmmm... Cancer, hold the bun.

Submitted by js290 on Thu, 04/11/2013 - 03:10.

Mmmm... Cancer, hold the bun. The bun is the cancer. :-P Rorschach test...

Compound in red meat, energy drinks linked to heart disease

Submitted by davyC on Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:15.

Compound in red meat, energy drinks linked to heart disease in Cleveland Clinic research

http://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2013/04/compoun...

Nice summary

Submitted by Ed Thinking on Mon, 04/08/2013 - 13:43.

On this DP link: http://www.dailypaul.com/281103/avoid-heart-disease-theyre-t...

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Meat and dairy are major

Submitted by zooamerica on Sun, 04/07/2013 - 22:04.

Meat and dairy are major sources of protein and cholesterol.

Proteins are literally the, "building blocks of life." Meats and cheeses are packed with protein. Your brain is composed mostly out of cholesterol! (Sea) salt is vital for getting essential minerals, and is also responsible for proper neuron (brain and nervous system) conductivity.

But all we hear is how people shouldn't eat too much red meat, cholesterol is bad, eggs are bad, and salt is bad. Why? Because they want to either kill you, or get you hooked on some medication.

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The Gladiators were vegan.

Submitted by dinahtab on Tue, 04/09/2013 - 00:33.

Known at the time as the "Barley Men." Archeological evidence backs up the historical writings about them:
http://archive.archaeology.org/0811/abstracts/gladiator.html

The only thing that meat will give you is heart disease and cancer, not to mention suffering and untimely death for animals.

Man, The Fat Hunter

Submitted by js290 on Tue, 04/09/2013 - 01:48.


http://youtu.be/ZKLCp4rIBIM

Get bee pollen

Submitted by dexterszyd on Mon, 04/08/2013 - 13:20.

It covered your enzymes ...

Proteins are over rated we don't need that much protein and you sure as hell don't need to get it from meat. If that's your position then please explain Silverback Gorillas to me. One of the most muscular and powerful beasts on this planet and oh....they just happen to be vegetarian.

It's like eating a cow to get protein . How does the cow get its protein? It doesn't , it eats grass . Do you know why?

Because its not about the protein at all, it's about the convergence to branch chain amino acids. That's why people eat protein. You can get all the aminos you need from plants, so why not just cut out the middle man and skip the cow.....eat the stuff you really need.

Protein is over rated

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Come on Dexter

Submitted by OctoBox on Mon, 04/08/2013 - 16:34.

"explain silver backs to me?"

Okay I will -- but first you explain their gut-flora and bacterium profile..........a human would die if you tried a fecal transplant with a wild primate; they are way way to robust for us (our system).

Gorilla's eat the living hell out of driver ants -- driver ants eat meat.

Gorillas also eat other insects and small invertibrates.

So there -- that explains them #1 their gut flora / bacterial profile can break down tree husks, hard fibers, and pith AND #2 they eat meat (Directly and Indirectly).

Chimpanzees - even more so (including Bonobos -- where females lead the hunt).

Same is true for Organutans.

So there! Explained -- Gorillas are NOT vegetarians, at all. In the same way the chinese (china study) all ate some amount of meat and as their wealth grows they eat more of it.

So longevity might be connected to meat eating but not an absence of it but the "right amount" and the "right kind"

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Chris Kresser's articles on red meat

Submitted by SJ on Sun, 04/07/2013 - 10:15.

http://chriskresser.com/red-meat-it-does-a-body-good

http://chriskresser.com/does-red-meat-cause-inflammation

http://chriskresser.com/why-grass-fed-trumps-grain-fed

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yeah right

Submitted by happygirlapps on Sun, 04/07/2013 - 09:14.

Yes, meat that has been poisoned with anti-biotics and hormones, and dairy same deal.

Simple carbs cause all the cancer, diabetes, heart-disease. Cancer is a sugar disorder... so is alcoholism.. a sugar addiction... eliminate simple sugars and cancer dies.

It's called the paleo diet, so stop thinking like a caveman and start eating like one.

Wow

Submitted by dinahtab on Tue, 04/09/2013 - 00:25.

You really bought into that Paleo diet fad. There's a lot of money to be made in telling people what they want to hear, without science or archeological evidence to back it up.

Man was vegan until the time of Noah, according to the Bible.

Don't believe the Bible? The famous "Ice Man" was vegetarian.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10064623

The Paleo type of eating is not a fad.

Submitted by Musicians and H... on Wed, 04/10/2013 - 15:47.

The Paleo type of eating is not a fad. The high carb diet is a fad that's waning because people are wising up.

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With bad teeth...

Submitted by js290 on Wed, 04/10/2013 - 12:18.

Don't believe the Bible? The famous "Ice Man" was vegetarian.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10064623

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2306821/Otzi-...

"the Iceman suffered from tooth decay due to his eating more and more starchy foods such as bread and cereal porridge which were consumed more commonly in the Neolithic period because of the rise of agriculture"

That's why...

Submitted by dinahtab on Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:39.

...today we have dentists.

But it figures -- archeology disproves the paleo diet theory about ancient man, and the paleo gurus come up with another lame excuse to sell their money-making fad.

...today we have dentists.

Submitted by js290 on Thu, 04/11/2013 - 03:01.

...today we have dentists. But it figures -- archeology disproves the paleo diet theory about ancient man, and the paleo gurus come up with another lame excuse to sell their money-making fad.

God created man to need dentists?
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, Weston A Price (1939)

For nearly 10 years, Weston Price and his wife traveled around the world in search of the secret to health. Instead of looking at people afflicted with disease symptoms, this highly-respected dentist and dental researcher chose to focus on healthy individuals, and challenged himself to understand how they achieved such amazing health. Dr. Price traveled to hundreds of cities in a total of 14 different countries in his search to find healthy people. He investigated some of the most remote areas in the world. He observed perfect dental arches, minimal tooth decay, high immunity to tuberculosis and overall excellent health in those groups of people who ate their indigenous foods. He found when these people were introduced to modernized foods, such as white flour, white sugar, refined vegetable oils and canned goods, signs of degeneration quickly became quite evident. Dental caries, deformed jaw structures, crooked teeth, arthritis and a low immunity to tuberculosis became rampant amongst them. Dr. Price documented this ancestral wisdom including hundreds of photos in his book, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.

What were you saying about archaeology disproving hunter-gatherer diets? Prehistoric Plaque and the Gentrification of Europe’s Mouth

The hunter-gatherers had a diverse array of bacteria including several groups that are associated with good health. That fits with the relative absence of tooth decay or gum disease among modern or prehistoric hunter-gatherers. “They were at the end of a long period of happy co-evolution between us and oral bacteria,” says Cooper.

Tell you what.

Submitted by dinahtab on Thu, 04/11/2013 - 07:48.

You throw away your toothbrush and just eat meat and vegetables. Just do strictly Paleo or Atkins. Eat all the meat and eggs you want but no grains, no starch of any kind, no sugar.

Then come back in about a year's time to give us an update on your teeth, if you still have them. Okay?

Why are you worried about my

Submitted by js290 on Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:45.

Why are you worried about my teeth? More propaganda for your racket? I'm not going to buy any of your toothbrushes.

Basically you're admitting that that diet is bad for the teeth

Submitted by Musicians and H... on Wed, 04/10/2013 - 18:05.

"That's why today we have dentists"

LMAO!

Basically you're admitting that that diet is bad for the teeth (it's bad for everything actually) but saying that's ok becuase you can take your decaying mouth to a dentist? That's cracked.

We have doctors too, but you're better off keeping yourself healthy so you need neither.

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Basically I'm admitting...

Submitted by dinahtab on Wed, 04/10/2013 - 18:20.

...that the paleo diet is bad for your health -- namely, the link between meat/dairy and cancer and heart disease. Personally, I'd rather have bad teeth than cancer or heart disease. Wouldn't you?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that virtually everybody back then, no doubt, had bad teeth no matter what they ate. That's why toothbrushes were invented.

It doesn't take a rocket

Submitted by js290 on Thu, 04/11/2013 - 03:08.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that virtually everybody back then, no doubt, had bad teeth no matter what they ate. That's why toothbrushes were invented.

Only someone connected to the dental cartel and toothbrush racket would make such a statement. You're obviously on the take...

http://www.gnolls.org/3253/dental-health-and-the-paleo-diet-...

Not on the take...

Submitted by dinahtab on Thu, 04/11/2013 - 07:50.

...though it would be nice if I were. I hear there's a lot of money in that racket.

I do have a toothbrush, though. Do you?

Everybody didn't have bad teeth

Submitted by Musicians and H... on Wed, 04/10/2013 - 18:33.

Wrong. Everybody didn't have bad teeth. Those who ate diets high in grains and starches had bad teeth, osteoporosis, arthritis etc. Those who were hunter/gatherers tended to not have those diseases and be larger in stature. Grains and sugars cause those diseases as well has many mental issues.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that all of the BS linking meat to cancer and and heart disease is complete and total bunk.

You are foolishly buying into a bunch of nonsense including revisionist ancient history.

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Simple carbs cause all the

Submitted by js290 on Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:51.

Simple carbs cause all the cancer, diabetes, heart-disease. Cancer is a sugar disorder... so is alcoholism.. a sugar addiction... eliminate simple sugars and cancer dies.

Actually, you can probably safely say that all chronic diseases of civilization are various manifestations of poor glucose control or glucose intolerance.

I think there are studies that show most alcoholics are hypoglycemic. A high fat diet does a better job of keeping blood sugar levels stable.

Dr. Fuhrman

Submitted by davyC on Thu, 04/04/2013 - 07:29.

Most people are aware of the connections between red and processed meats and cancer – that there is convincing evidence that these dangerous foods are a cause of colon cancer.1 In addition, cooking any meat at high temperatures (for example, grilled or fried chicken) forms carcinogenic compounds such as heterocyclic amines, which contribute to cancer risk.2,3 However, animal foods such as non-fat dairy products, egg whites, and fish are considered healthful by most people. It not yet widely recognized that foods such as these, since they are so high in animal protein, can also contribute to increased cancer risk.
When we consume animal protein, the body increases its production of a hormone called IGF-1, (insulin-like growth factor 1). IGF-1 is one of the body's important growth promoters during fetal and childhood growth, but later in life IGF-1 promotes the aging process. Reduced IGF-1 signaling in adulthood is associated with reduced oxidative stress, decreased inflammation, enhanced insulin sensitivity and longer lifespan.4 In contrast, IGF-1 has been shown to promote the growth, proliferation and spread of cancer cells, and elevated IGF-1 levels are linked to increased risk of several cancers, colon cancer included.5-8 Several observational studies have suggested that high circulating IGF-1 may translate into promotion of tumor growth in the colon. For example, one study in men and one another in women found that those with higher levels of IGF-1 had double the risk of colorectal ca ncers compared to those with lower levels.9,10
Which foods raise IGF-1?
Since the primary dietary factor that determines IGF-1 levels is animal protein, the excessive meat, fowl, seafood, and dairy intake common in our society elevates circulating IGF-1. Refined carbohydrates, like white flour, white rice, and sugars can also raise IGF-1 levels, because they cause rapid increases in insulin levels, leading to increases in IGF-1 signaling. In fact, IGF-1 signaling is thought to be a major factor in the connection between diabetes and cancer.11,12
It is the amino acid distribution of animal protein that sparks IGF-1 production.13 For this reason, isolated soy protein, found in protein powders and meat substitutes, may also be problematic because the protein is unnaturally concentrated and its amino acid profile is very similar to that of animal protein.
How can we keep IGF-1 in a safe range?
Reducing IGF-1 levels by dietary methods is now considered by many scientists to be an effective cancer prevention measure. Minimizing or avoiding animal protein, isolated soy protein and refined carbohydrates can help to keep our IGF-1 levels in a safe range. Green vegetables, beans and other legumes, and seeds are rich in plant protein and they have cancer-preventive, not cancer-promoting properties. For optimal cancer protection, vegetables, beans, fruits, intact grains, nuts and seeds should comprise the vast majority of our calories.
References
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2. Thomson B: Heterocyclic amine levels in cooked meat and the implication for New Zealanders. Eur J Cancer Prev 1999;8:201-206.
3. Zheng W, Lee S-A: Well-Done Meat Intake, Heterocyclic Amine Exposure, and Cancer Risk. Nutr Cancer 2009;61:437-446.
4. Bartke A: Minireview: role of the growth hormone/insulin-like growth factor system in mammalian aging. Endocrinology 2005;146:3718-3723.
5. Chitnis MM, Yuen JS, Protheroe AS, et al: The type 1 insulin-like growth factor receptor pathway. Clin Cancer Res 2008;14:6364-6370.
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