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Meat and Dairy Cause Cancer (T. Colin Campbell)

Alarming speech by Dr. Campbell (the China Study), who actually grew up on a dairy farm himself but became a vegan after seeing the results from his own research: animal products and their link to cancer.

A practically lone voice crying in the wilderness, it seems, considering the popularity of the low carb diets and the high consumption of animal products in general. We (and I include myself as a cheese lover) only want to hear what we want to hear, but the truth always comes out sooner or later.

http://youtu.be/wcvC-hErx1g




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All animals are special

"Massive farm slaughtering" is a new wrong - but I doubt the animals are "tortured". I'm sure the people of Jesus' day did not participate in massive slaughters. The current problem is in the inhumane way people now approach meat processing in hugh corporations/farms - not the fact that people eat meat. Just like the gun debate - I can't have a gun because some kill with them - so I suppose now I can't eat meat because some people are thoughtless butchers.
Deal with the offenders - not take every citizen's right to choose what they eat.

If you think factory farm animals aren't tortured...

...then you haven't watched any video or seen any pictures.

I would consider baby chicks put into a grinder (cheaper to kill them that way) and calves and pigs put in very small crates where they cannot move for their whole short lives, making them bang their heads against the crates because they go crazy, torture. Wouldn't you?

If you must buy meat, PLEASE buy Certified Humane only.

Actually

they had some massive animal slaughters back in HIS day. But you are right in that there is a Scripturally prescribed way of slaughter and it did not include the cruelty that is seen in modern day processing.

Who's taking citizens' rights?

And, yes, I agree that all animals are special. Lambs are, I believe, a symbol of how special animals are.

For humanitarian reasons, I also agree with buying Certified Humane meat if you choose to eat meat (the nonprofit Certified Humane organization does unannounced inspections and are very diligent).

But the video I posted is about the link between animal products and cancer. It doesn't matter how they're treated before they're killed -- they ALL have growth hormones (because they're still growing when they're killed). The unbiased research showing the link between animal growth hormones and cancer is overwhelming, as the video shows.

So, again, nobody is trying to take the right to eat meat away. This is a buyer beware post.

If you don't think that

"He" ever ate the passover then you don't know Scripture and are more than a little ignorant. And lambs were not the only animal sacrificed and consumed. I seems apparent that your beef, forgive the pun, is against corporate meat production so you should keep your argument their and quit making statements that are untrue and ignorant.

My argument's with growth hormones

Which free-range animals also have.

As far as the Bible, we're not living in OT times where animals were sacrificed to atone for sin. That was the message of the Passover meal, period, and "it is finished."

You said

that HE didn't eat the Passover. HE was perfect and he ate the Passover every year until HE died. He was perfect and HE was not a vegan. HE ate Scripturally clean meat and fish and HE definitely ate the commanded Passover. You are the one who brought up the Bible and I am correcting you. If you like I can show where New Testament Scripture says that those who think we should only eat vegetables are weak in the Faith. Yes the Apostles had to deal with vegans back then too.

As far as growth hormones go I wish you would tell me how it is that my cows which eat grass, leaves and hay have growth hormones?

Chapter/verse, please

Please provide the chapter and verse where the Bible says specifically that Christ ate lamb (and I don't mean the Passover meal).

And, again, even if He did, it DOES NOT MATTER. The Passover meal was strictly about the atonement for sins. If Christ ate lamb at the Passover meal, the message to take away from that IS NOT that eating meat is somehow virtuous and being a vegan is not. The message is that Christ IS the Lamb of God and that Christ reigns, period.

It appears you're still living in pre-resurrection days. Post-resurrection, the lion lies down with the lamb and we return to the Garden, where man is, clearly, vegan.

what I think

causes many cases or may accelerate cancer,(according to many different studies)is casein protein which is found in milk and dairy products.
Not to mention all the hormones that are in them.I personally never drink milk or eat dairy products and mainly use coconut almond milk.I don't see similar studies about meats though and it's probably ok if you eat a little regular(hormone)meat once in a while but I would recommend free range or grass fed animal proteins mostly.It is also important that you never char or burn your meats when cooking them because that creates carcinogens.Yes,I know healthy meats are more expensive but you are worth it and they taste so much better anyway.Just do what I do,eat smaller portions of them.I buy grass fed beef by the pound and divide it up into four portions(quarter pound servings).Costs around $2.00 per serving.That is still cheaper than a horse burger.lol

SUGAR

SUGAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWLrfNJICeM

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Oh, please.

Give me a break. If I listened to every hysterical pseudo-intellectual telling me that something I ate or drank would give me cancer, I'd have starved to death long ago.

Why is this post getting

Why is this post getting voted down? I guess there are a lot of meat eaters here...LOL

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Yep!

Funny though...I am female and prefer meat and veggies. Most females love pasta and starches(that I know). I stay away from those the most, except rice.

The China Study, and T. Colin Campbell, are a sham

Denise Minger has thoroughly discredited the China Study, and most of its dubious claims that meat is killing us. In her blog, Raw Food SOS, she examined the Dr's cherry-picked studies and exposed the blatant bias used in selecting and spinning them. The China Study essentially amounts to vegan fear-mongering.

If you've gotten stirred up by reading The China Study, or by the video above, here's a great afternoon of reading: http://rawfoodsos.com/the-china-study/

Who's Denise Minger?

And from where does she get her authority?

Yes, I did.

That's why I asked the question.

From the "About" section:
"College: Attended Northern Arizona University. Changed majors several times, bouncing between the sciences (to feed my brain) and the arts (to feed my soul). Eventually settled on English,"

Majored in English and reads/writes a lot about nutrition. Okay.

Personally, I listen to the people, with the credentials, who've conducted the actual research studies that were not paid for by the industries that want the results skewed their way nor conducted by a government panel on which those industries sit. That's why I posted Campbell's speech about the unbiased China Study.

Bullsh!t in a China shop

China Study: "An unnecessary amount of questionable correlations leading the wrong way, dragging us into unnecessary debates with green zealots."

That about nails it.

That about nails it.

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I have never seen conclusive

I have never seen conclusive evidence that vegetarians are healthier than non vegetarians. There are many bad things put into all of our foods, these days..

Have you been to the hospital

Have you been to the hospital lately? You really don't think that the 1.4 million people that a year from heart disease die from eating broccoli and apples, do you?

What do you think they pull out of the body during the autopsy? Not strawberries, I'll tell you..

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

They die from the sugar and grains they consume

" You really don't think that the 1.4 million people that a year from heart disease die from eating broccoli and apples, do you?"

No. They die from the sugar, grains and processed and fast foods they consume.

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Margarine has killed more that all wars combined.

Plant oils and Hydrogenated plant oils are deadly.

That, sugars and starches have put 1.4 million in hospital.

Mineral deficiencies compound the problems.

Free includes debt-free!

Man, you got that right.

Man, you got that right.

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That's part of it, but the

That's part of it, but the majority is from animal products..

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

I'm a recent Vegan

I lived my whole life (31 years) on a SAD (standard american diet) - daily meat & dairy consumption, little plant intake with meals. I recently - 3 months ago gave up all animal based food products and substituted them with super foods and a plant based diet. Let me just express to the nay-sayers that this was the most beneficial move I have ever made. I have always exercised relatively well my entire life. Once I stopped consuming meat and dairy I dropped 20 lbs in less than three months while basically exercising very little. I feel amazing. My skin looks amazing. I'm full every day. I have more energy than I've felt before. I take vitamin B-12 as all vegans should.

Let people eat what they will, it is a free country right? I was a die hard meat loving cheese consuming American and I HAVE NO REGRETS. Meat & dairy (even 'organic') contain Endo-Toxins that inflame the body for up to six hours after consumed, hardening the arteries, and opening the body up to disease. These endo-toxins cannot be cooked away or die off when the meat is chemically washed with ammonia before shipped to stores. Animal products have been scientifically shown to increase weight gain significantly more than a plant based diet. In fact, you can eat 500 calories of nuts each day and you wont gain weight from it! Surprisingly chicken is the WORST & most toxic of animal meats American's consume, much more unhealthy compared to red meat.

The FDA food pyramid is a lie. The SAD diet is a lie and is why heart disease is the #1 killer in America. Dr. Greger has an awesome website nutritionfacts.org and puts daily videos on every subject imaginable.

THIS VIDEO IS AWESOME IF YOU ARE NEW TO THIS TOPIC http://nutritionfacts.org/video/uprooting-the-leading-causes...

I'll agree to disagree with meat & dairy eaters. But there are some on this thread who passionately defend meat and dairy while ignoring the overwhelming evidence which exists supporting a plant based diet over animal flesh. Eat at your own risk.

Be careful in assuming that

Be careful in assuming that all of those who eat meat and dairy do not eat a plant based diet. I am one of those. I understand the benefits of properly prepared organic animal products and the benefits of eating mostly organic veggies and a little fruit and for me, no grain.

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Isn't the goal to be strong and healthy?

http://mrolympiausa.blogspot.com/2012/12/kai-greene-kai-gree... You will lose muscle with your meat and dairy logic. American ag has been gmo'd to kill it's farmer's strength. No one will buy America's grain. America's livestock is tortured, living hell on earth and is pumped with tons of antibiotics. Insist on stopping this, insist on an end to GMO. This is the biggest push back in America today, followed by fluoride in the public water supply.

Right

And you don't get muscle from animal protein. We've been fed (no pun intended) a lie on the muscle gain from animal protein theory.

btw, did you know that the historical documents that called the gladiators "the Barley Men" has been confirmed? Here's an article on the archeology that astounded the archeologists, who had expected to find that they were really meat eaters:

http://bodyscience.org/gladiators-were-plant-based-eaters/

Suffice to say, it turns out that what builds muscle is starch -- of all things. Good news for the lowly potato, which has been so maligned by the meat/dairy industry.

http://www.ihealthtube.com/as

http://www.ihealthtube.com/aspx/viewvideo.aspx?v=37f88a6e6ea...

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