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Meat and Dairy Cause Cancer (T. Colin Campbell)

Alarming speech by Dr. Campbell (the China Study), who actually grew up on a dairy farm himself but became a vegan after seeing the results from his own research: animal products and their link to cancer.

A practically lone voice crying in the wilderness, it seems, considering the popularity of the low carb diets and the high consumption of animal products in general. We (and I include myself as a cheese lover) only want to hear what we want to hear, but the truth always comes out sooner or later.

http://youtu.be/wcvC-hErx1g

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What would Jesus wreck his gut with?

Grains.

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why would you type that?

several references in the bible speak
of him eating breads.breads are made
from grains,leavened and unleavened
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Dr. Davis speaks about that dwarf strain of wheat

I was just being silly.

But, in Jesus' time, the wheat had much less gluten than that of today. In the 1970s they developed a hybridized, more productive, dwarf strain of wheat that is grown exclusively today in North America and much of the rest of the world. This dwarf strain of wheat has much more gluten than any of the strains of the past. So if Jesus showed up today it is likely that our modern wheat would wreck his gut as it does to so many of us these days.

Dr. Davis speaks about that dwarf strain of wheat and the problems it causes in this interview.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2012/04/RIR-120429.php

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Jesus ate fish

He also ate lamb at the passover
Sacrifices involved meat.

Jesus ate fish but...

...there's no reference to His eating the Passover lamb -- not that I can find anyway. Personally, I don't see why He would since He is the true sacrificial Lamb of God.

As far as sacrifice, that's why I think lambs are very special animals. So it's horrifying to think they're tortured and slaughtered in factory farms as they are today. So very sad.

All animals are special

"Massive farm slaughtering" is a new wrong - but I doubt the animals are "tortured". I'm sure the people of Jesus' day did not participate in massive slaughters. The current problem is in the inhumane way people now approach meat processing in hugh corporations/farms - not the fact that people eat meat. Just like the gun debate - I can't have a gun because some kill with them - so I suppose now I can't eat meat because some people are thoughtless butchers.
Deal with the offenders - not take every citizen's right to choose what they eat.

If you think factory farm animals aren't tortured...

...then you haven't watched any video or seen any pictures.

I would consider baby chicks put into a grinder (cheaper to kill them that way) and calves and pigs put in very small crates where they cannot move for their whole short lives, making them bang their heads against the crates because they go crazy, torture. Wouldn't you?

If you must buy meat, PLEASE buy Certified Humane only.

Actually

they had some massive animal slaughters back in HIS day. But you are right in that there is a Scripturally prescribed way of slaughter and it did not include the cruelty that is seen in modern day processing.

Who's taking citizens' rights?

And, yes, I agree that all animals are special. Lambs are, I believe, a symbol of how special animals are.

For humanitarian reasons, I also agree with buying Certified Humane meat if you choose to eat meat (the nonprofit Certified Humane organization does unannounced inspections and are very diligent).

But the video I posted is about the link between animal products and cancer. It doesn't matter how they're treated before they're killed -- they ALL have growth hormones (because they're still growing when they're killed). The unbiased research showing the link between animal growth hormones and cancer is overwhelming, as the video shows.

So, again, nobody is trying to take the right to eat meat away. This is a buyer beware post.

If you don't think that

"He" ever ate the passover then you don't know Scripture and are more than a little ignorant. And lambs were not the only animal sacrificed and consumed. I seems apparent that your beef, forgive the pun, is against corporate meat production so you should keep your argument their and quit making statements that are untrue and ignorant.

My argument's with growth hormones

Which free-range animals also have.

As far as the Bible, we're not living in OT times where animals were sacrificed to atone for sin. That was the message of the Passover meal, period, and "it is finished."

You said

that HE didn't eat the Passover. HE was perfect and he ate the Passover every year until HE died. He was perfect and HE was not a vegan. HE ate Scripturally clean meat and fish and HE definitely ate the commanded Passover. You are the one who brought up the Bible and I am correcting you. If you like I can show where New Testament Scripture says that those who think we should only eat vegetables are weak in the Faith. Yes the Apostles had to deal with vegans back then too.

As far as growth hormones go I wish you would tell me how it is that my cows which eat grass, leaves and hay have growth hormones?

Chapter/verse, please

Please provide the chapter and verse where the Bible says specifically that Christ ate lamb (and I don't mean the Passover meal).

And, again, even if He did, it DOES NOT MATTER. The Passover meal was strictly about the atonement for sins. If Christ ate lamb at the Passover meal, the message to take away from that IS NOT that eating meat is somehow virtuous and being a vegan is not. The message is that Christ IS the Lamb of God and that Christ reigns, period.

It appears you're still living in pre-resurrection days. Post-resurrection, the lion lies down with the lamb and we return to the Garden, where man is, clearly, vegan.

what I think

causes many cases or may accelerate cancer,(according to many different studies)is casein protein which is found in milk and dairy products.
Not to mention all the hormones that are in them.I personally never drink milk or eat dairy products and mainly use coconut almond milk.I don't see similar studies about meats though and it's probably ok if you eat a little regular(hormone)meat once in a while but I would recommend free range or grass fed animal proteins mostly.It is also important that you never char or burn your meats when cooking them because that creates carcinogens.Yes,I know healthy meats are more expensive but you are worth it and they taste so much better anyway.Just do what I do,eat smaller portions of them.I buy grass fed beef by the pound and divide it up into four portions(quarter pound servings).Costs around $2.00 per serving.That is still cheaper than a horse burger.lol

SUGAR

SUGAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWLrfNJICeM

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Oh, please.

Give me a break. If I listened to every hysterical pseudo-intellectual telling me that something I ate or drank would give me cancer, I'd have starved to death long ago.

Why is this post getting

Why is this post getting voted down? I guess there are a lot of meat eaters here...LOL

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Yep!

Funny though...I am female and prefer meat and veggies. Most females love pasta and starches(that I know). I stay away from those the most, except rice.

The China Study, and T. Colin Campbell, are a sham

Denise Minger has thoroughly discredited the China Study, and most of its dubious claims that meat is killing us. In her blog, Raw Food SOS, she examined the Dr's cherry-picked studies and exposed the blatant bias used in selecting and spinning them. The China Study essentially amounts to vegan fear-mongering.

If you've gotten stirred up by reading The China Study, or by the video above, here's a great afternoon of reading: http://rawfoodsos.com/the-china-study/

Who's Denise Minger?

And from where does she get her authority?

Yes, I did.

That's why I asked the question.

From the "About" section:
"College: Attended Northern Arizona University. Changed majors several times, bouncing between the sciences (to feed my brain) and the arts (to feed my soul). Eventually settled on English,"

Majored in English and reads/writes a lot about nutrition. Okay.

Personally, I listen to the people, with the credentials, who've conducted the actual research studies that were not paid for by the industries that want the results skewed their way nor conducted by a government panel on which those industries sit. That's why I posted Campbell's speech about the unbiased China Study.

Bullsh!t in a China shop

China Study: "An unnecessary amount of questionable correlations leading the wrong way, dragging us into unnecessary debates with green zealots."

That about nails it.

That about nails it.

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I have never seen conclusive

I have never seen conclusive evidence that vegetarians are healthier than non vegetarians. There are many bad things put into all of our foods, these days..

Have you been to the hospital

Have you been to the hospital lately? You really don't think that the 1.4 million people that a year from heart disease die from eating broccoli and apples, do you?

What do you think they pull out of the body during the autopsy? Not strawberries, I'll tell you..

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They die from the sugar and grains they consume

" You really don't think that the 1.4 million people that a year from heart disease die from eating broccoli and apples, do you?"

No. They die from the sugar, grains and processed and fast foods they consume.

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Margarine has killed more that all wars combined.

Plant oils and Hydrogenated plant oils are deadly.

That, sugars and starches have put 1.4 million in hospital.

Mineral deficiencies compound the problems.

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Man, you got that right.

Man, you got that right.

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That's part of it, but the

That's part of it, but the majority is from animal products..

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...