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Best Picture of 2012: Zero Dark Thirty

That is my prediction, based on my understanding of how the propaganda is being rolled out.

Here's what Naomi Wolf had to say about it:

The Hurt Locker was a beautiful, brave film; many young women in film were inspired as they watched you become the first woman ever to win an Oscar for directing. But with Zero Dark Thirty, you have attained a different kind of distinction.

Your film Zero Dark Thirty is a huge hit here. But in falsely justifying, in scene after scene, the torture of detainees in "the global war on terror", Zero Dark Thirty is a gorgeously-shot, two-hour ad for keeping intelligence agents who committed crimes against Guantánamo prisoners out of jail. It makes heroes and heroines out of people who committed violent crimes against other people based on their race – something that has historical precedent.

Your film claims, in many scenes, that CIA torture was redeemed by the "information" it "secured", information that, according to your script, led to Bin Laden's capture. This narrative is a form of manufacture of innocence to mask a great crime: what your script blithely calls "the detainee program".

What led to this amoral compromising of your film-making?

She concludes:

In a time of darkness in America, you are being feted by Hollywood, and hailed by major media. But to me, the path your career has now taken reminds of no one so much as that other female film pioneer who became, eventually, an apologist for evil: Leni Riefenstahl. Riefenstahl's 1935 Triumph of the Will, which glorified Nazi military power, was a massive hit in Germany. Riefenstahl was the first female film director to be hailed worldwide.

It may seem extreme to make comparison with this other great, but profoundly compromised film-maker, but there are real echoes. When Riefenstahl began to glamorize the National Socialists, in the early 1930s, the Nazis' worst atrocities had not yet begun; yet abusive detention camps had already been opened to house political dissidents beyond the rule of law – the equivalent of today's Guantánamo, Bagram base, and other unnameable CIA "black sites". And Riefenstahl was lionised by the German elites and acclaimed for her propaganda on behalf of Hitler's regime.

That is a pretty powerful condemnation.

How far down can we sink, and continue to keep sinking? I hope that by making this prediction I jinx the outcome, and some other movie is chosen best picture. Personally, I would like to see Les Misérables win for best picture. It was so beautifully shot, so dramatic. From a visual standpoint, there is incredible richness in almost every scene. Plus it is a musical! And with such an uplifting message at the end, even though the revolution failed. And that brings such a sense of tragedy. But it is ultimately about finding and reclaiming your grace and honor by experiencing it vicariously through Jean Valjean. That is the triumph. Emotionally, it is a rich movie.

But giving Zero Dark Thirty best picture would be an establishment signal that torture is to become enshrined in America's lore. That we're tough, and we do what needs to be done when the time calls.

We don't learn history, we're indoctrinated in it through entertainment - entertainment that takes liberties with the truth.

I have not yet seen the movie. I keeping thinking I should go see it - just to see - to see the propaganda. And yet, I keep resisting. It is still at the Somerville Theatre. (It plays tomorrow at 4:20! LOL! Its a sign! I think I have to go...)

A friend of mine saw it the other night, and he said people got up and clapped at the end! This makes me uncomfortable.

Guess I have to go see it.

But I stand by my prediction, sight unseen.

One last look over the list, and I note that Lincoln would also be an excellent choice for the propagandists. I'll give it a close second to ZD30. 51-49, Lincoln loses. Lincoln is just the story about Obama. Z-Darth-30 is about the whole regime.

This is the movie about how America killed Osama Bin Laden. If it was not an instant classic, it has to be made so when viewed through the lens of history. For he who writes history can write the present.




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I can buy atleast 10000 heirloom seeds and plant them out

for the price of a ticket.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. -Henry Ford

ytc's picture

Well, I'm jinxing your tongue-in-cheek prediction with my

"NO! Don't waste your tickets on a propaganda trash!" - down vote ;-) But, I know: you might be able to criticize the content more effectively after you've seen the thing. And also, observing those who are whipped into torture-glorifying mobs in the theater first-hand might be a good learning experience. . .

I will not spend money in a movie theater...

Never again! In the spirit of free-markets, I will not contribute to the pocketbooks of "those" Hollywood people. The money we all spend on a ticket ends up in the coffers of the film makers and production companies who in turn spend that money to make more mind-altering crap for the next audience, or it gets donated to some "re-elect Barbara Boxer" campaign, or it gets sent to the zionist regime as a donation. Not me...I refuse to participate in any of that. I'll wait til it comes out for free on the internet...then chastise it!

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Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Hm, I saw it

but came to a different conclusion. I think the torture scenes in the movie will/did make people uncomfortable. They also showed that we 'got' Bin Laden without those methods. I think the movie was very real, showed the difficult human element to our wars in Iraq/Afganistan. I think the film showed the human cost on both sides. To me, this is a movie Americans should see. It puts human faces to what we have done the past 10+ years. I think the movie showed blowback, it shows the humanity of the 'Muslim terrorists' as parents and as real people that we have killed. Go see it and decide for yourself.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

Bin Laden died in 2001...

Bin Laden died in 2001...

Southern Agrarian

ok

if you say so. I have no idea. I don't really care. There's not proof that he died in 2001 or that he died in 2011. It's a moot point really.

"Be a listener only, keep within yourself, and endeavor to establish with yourself the habit of silence, especially on politics." -Thomas Jefferson

Maybe I'm small minded

But I will NOT go to see Zero Dark Thirty. I recognized it as propaganda and I will not partake.

I've seen "Lincoln" and I cringed at the glossing over of the destruction of our Constitution. Beautiful film. Utterly useless as a history lesson.

I've also seen Les Miserables. It got my vote, hands down.

I Was dragged to the movies to see Lincoln

by some liberal friends. Afterwards, I pulled up a few of Lincoln's racist quotes on my phone to show them..... long story short, half of them are still not speaking to me. LOL!!

Good Post, M.N.

It was painful to watch such propaganda be glorified as a path to decent victory. Sad days for the youth in this country who become mind-warped with sensationalized evil.

They that give up liberty for security deserve neither.

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Most of my friends are neo-conservatives. I expect to get extreme criticism for doing so, but I think the people need to know that films like this are propaganda in entertaining form.