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I hope Michael Nystrom gets rid of this:


We need to organize our wallet power folks.

This is not cool at all..




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laissez faire books ....

I always go here first... http://lfb.org/

Laissez Faire Books

In the 1970s most bookstores rarely carried no more than a couple of dozen titles with libertarian themes and either relegated the books to a single shelf or scattered them throughout the store in various categories.

On Saturday, March 4, 1972, John Muller and Sharon Presley opened a small bookshop in a storefront on Mercer Street in Greenwich Village. While the New York Times did not cover the opening of Laissez Faire Books, in attendance were some of the leading libertarian luminaries of the day. People like Murray Rothbard, Roy Childs and Jerome Tuccille.

From the beginning the goal of Laissez Faire Books was to create a one-stop place to shop for everything libertarian. That included books ranging from Menger’s Principles of Economics to Mencken’s Treatise on the Gods to Steve Ditko’s underground “Mr. A” comics whose hero reflected the influence of Ayn Rand’s objectivist philosophy.

In those early years, Laissez Faire Books quickly morphed into something more than a bookstore. It became a marketplace of ideas for libertarians who had no other venues to discuss social and political issues of the day. With lectures, films, and book signings it became the 20th century version of the ancient Greek agora.

In the 80s, to grow its business and to honor the 18th century liberals Charles James Fox and John Wilkes, Laissez Faire Books created the Fox & Wilkes imprint and became a publisher. The objective was to publish contemporary authors and reissue classic libertarian books that were out-of-print.

Through the early 90s, the used book market was fragmented into over ten thousand bookshops. To keep growing, Laissez Faire Books aggressively invested in mail-order marketing. Quickly, the customer list grew to nearly 30,000 active names who received catalogues and other mailings.

With the advent of the Internet, the bookselling landscape changed dramatically. Pricing pressures and changing customer demographics made profitability difficult for niche players like Laissez Faire Books and over the next decade, ownership and location changed several times. Late in 2010 Agora Financial, one of the nation’s premier publishers of investment advisory newsletters acquired the assets, inventory, and name and took ownership of Laissez Faire Books.

Laissez Faire Books
808 St. Paul Street
Baltimore, MD 21202
Phone: 877-453-1177
Website: http://www.lfb.org

Yes, please BUY this wonderful libertarian BOOK! We all must know the History of Freedom! Buy it today!

"The System of Liberty: Themes in the History of Classical Liberalism" ...by author George Smith --
Buy it Here: http://www.amazon.com/dp/05211820


did anyone check if amazon gave $30k to the second amendment center or something of same like kind?
Many times corporations, businesses and websites play both sides of the fence and give to both sides.

Maybe amazon gave MORE of a donation to the NRA and someone from the otherside screamed.
who knows.

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

All this time I didn't know

there was a DP Amazon link. I will use it from now on.

There's no way I'm going to stop buying from every place that isn't ideologically pure or I would be starving and naked.

I also think Amazon.com is an

I also think Amazon.com is an amazing technological marvel. It doesn't surprise me that they have liberals running it, they seem to be at the helm of many things. Why do the lefties end up running all the successfull gigantic bastions of capitalism?

Maybe we should start becoming as successful.

I believe successful small to

I believe successful small to medium sized business owners are overwhelmingly conservative, while large corps are run by cronyists. At a certain size the govt has a policy of either helping your business and telling you how to run things or destroying it. Essentially the same as foreign policy.

All the small to medium sized business owners I know are either conservative or I don't know them well enough to be sure. The liberals I know who tried starting businesses didn't do well, I assume because they feel conflicted about free market capitalism.

Most are right-handed. Left to Right appear as rainbows.

Rainbows of color may be seen when viewing through a prism.

      Left vs Right

Colorful as it may be to see Left vs Right... Oft as it is reported... It is not much help to determine nor forecast wealth.

The measure of the Federal Reserve notes may be seen as smoke... One match will do it. Left-hand vs Right-hand makes little difference.

A pile of cash burnt to ash is mostly carbon... elementally. Beware. Where there is smoke... Well, when the smoke clears, you might see...

    "The lightning there is peculiar; it is so convincing, that when it strikes a thing it doesn't leave enough of that thing behind for you to tell whether--Well, you'd think it was something valuable, and a Congressman had been there." - Mark Twain's Speeches, "The Weather"

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

I wonder

if it has anything to do with that whole 'print money and give it to our friends in high places' thing?

In other words, crony keynesianism...

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" - Patrick Henry

Yes you are probably on to

Yes you are probably on to something there. It is hard to compete when then other guy has access to "free" money.

I have a solution

Why don't you, or some liberty group start a buy back program. Those that give up security for gift cards, do not deserve security. :) the solution: start our own buy-back program, at least it's going into your hands and not the governments. Just a thought.

Great idea!

Why hasn't the GOA and the NRA gotten ahead of this issue? Not just a weapons 'buyback', but for all purposes a 'gun exchange'.

Send me all the cards and cash you want

I promise to use it to buy guns. Every penny. My house might be small and humble but I promise each gun a lifetime of care and good use. Because every gun deserves a safe home.

Most of those who think so actually don't and most of those who think sew actually rip.

Thank you fonzdrew

I purchased some Amazon gift cards for Christmas gifts hoping folks would go through Daily Paul. The one chain grocery store in my area has a buy back program. It would be good if there was a liberty buy back program.

Michael Nystrom's picture

That is not a bad idea

A cheap way to amass guns.

SteveMT's picture

How difficult is it to get an FFL in Mass.?

You would probably need one to buy back, and especially to resell them here. In MT, there are 12,500 FFL distributors in a state of just one million people. Yup, good idea by fonsdrew.

Or sell them them back into the market for profit.

Like all market transactions it is a risky proposition. Best left to individual's who know how to benefit gun customer and themselves, leaving everyone better off.

Free includes debt-free!

look at the bright side

Amazon is inadvertently causing make shift gun shows at the gun confiscation locations.

More cheap guns for those that will use them in the right way when the time comes...

Tools of war are not always obvious. The worst weapon is an idea planted in the mind of man. Prejudices can kill, suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has an everlasting fallout all of its own.

Really good

unintended consequences!

The DP also allowed someone

The DP also allowed someone to post a story about a gun show that spontaneously sprang up around that same gun buy back program that amazon funded. Maybe a couple gun dealers will mimic them because they saw the story on the DP.

people like to complain

but not so much as to offer solutions. when other people do, they say 'you go do that, i'll sit here and keep complaining'

People do, but do I?

'you go do that, i'll sit here and keep complaining'

Have I told anyone to do anything?


I try to change people every day. Do You?

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I hear where you're coming from

On the other hand let me ask you this: What if the Amazon money is what is keeping the site afloat?

Should I get rid of it, and in the process get rid of the site? Would that be a better outcome?

I'm not trying to flip here, this is a real matter of consideration. The DP fundraiser, in which I asked for $20,000 to help fund the site for the first half of the year, is about 40% complete. I don't have high hopes that it will be filled.

Amazon definitely doesn't float this boat, but it does provide a marginal source of income, and at this point, it is important.

So I understand it is easy to blurt out an opinion without all the facts. It is easy to say what other people should do - what Michael Nystrom should do. I, on the other hand, have to manage this whole operation, to make sure it stays afloat for the thousands of people who enjoy it; for the contribution it makes to the Liberty community; For the information it provides, and the pressure it puts on the RNC (Reince Prebus says he reads the site).

So here is the site - it costs time and money to produce. That money is in short supply, meaning my time shortly may have to be put to better use somewhere else. So if the Daily Paul goes, the Amazon like with (obviously) go with it.

Would that be a desired outcome?

And just curious - not to berate or anything, but just out of curiosity: Have you contributed to the fundraiser?


Again, just curious. Because the DP is in trouble.

Michael, I've had a technical issue referring DP through Amazon

The link provided on the site to help the DP through Amazon doesn't stick and I see no indication that you guys have received benefits from my purchases through Amazon.

I've probably spent over $1000 on Amazon in the past 2-3 months and it makes me sick thinking that might not have been beneficial for you guys.

I'm going to stop buying

I'm going to stop buying things through Amazon, but I'm going to throw another $50 directly to Michael.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

My immediate reaction was ...

No, it's not cool that Amazon is putting their support and money on the wrong side.

HOWEVER the almost simultaneous second thought I had was for the revenue that the affiliation brings in to the site

And then, almost as simultaneously (with a slightly guilty that, due to holiday and vacation expenses I had put it off):

I pulled out my card and donated to the Daily Paul

Because anyone who clicks on this site more than ~5x a day to keep up on what's going on, and more often than not - runs their mouth off on a daily basis about whatever - honestly needs to pull out their wallet and cough some up.

I mean, really now.

Clicking the Amazon Link is voluntary.

But the unintended consequence of Amazon's donation provides some solace. It stimulated free market transactions.

Perhaps there isn't anything that the free market doesn't solve in the end.

If it wasn't for the Daily Paul it is unlikely I would have read of the market buyback that blossomed that day.

Free includes debt-free!

Just one more thing..

"It is easy to say what other people should do - what Michael Nystrom should do."

To be fair, at no point did I say that you "should" stop promoting Amazon.


I try to change people every day. Do You?

Why take the time to start a

Why take the time to start a thread the outcome of which would harm Mike and the Daily Paul? Come on!

I respect your point of view..

but I don't share it.

You can believe I am harming Michael and the Daily Paul all you want, I chose to believe I may be helping by expressing my opinion on this matter.

The final word belongs to the owner of the website and that is really the only opinion that matters in the end.

Thanks for your perspective.


I try to change people every day. Do You?

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Ok point taken

You are correct. My sloppy reading. Sorry.

I hear you..

I know money is tight, I just made a major change in my life and moved to Switzerland with my wife and 14 month old daughter in hopes of better days.

Here is a possible alternative to Amazon (I am not sure if they desrve your business either):


As you can see by this search, the relevant products are there:


"Should I get rid of it, and in the process get rid of the site? Would that be a better outcome?"

If that is the situation, then my answer is of course not.

"And just curious - not to berate or anything, but just out of curiosity: Have you contributed to the fundraiser?


Again, just curious. Because the DP is in trouble."

Not yet Michael. I hope I can send a meaningful contribution soon.

Till then, you can expect an ounce of silver in the mail.

I will send it this week, you have my word on that.


I try to change people every day. Do You?