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20 years ago people were

20 years ago people were worried about SHTF. Nothing really happened. I'm not saying you are wrong to worry about it but you are wrong if you don't consider alternative futures.

Do yourself a favor and don't focus on the fear-mongering of people like Alex Jones. There's a good chance that 20 years from now, we'll still be here bitching about the government while living our lives.

If you are 27 and living with mom and dad, you are doing it wrong. There really is nobody to blame but yourself. Prepping for a collapse should be a luxury at your age. A couple guns and ammo are good preps, then move on. Think about it. You could have invested wiser if you weren't so damn scared of what might come and you'd be better off.

Don't feel bad about living at home.

I work with a lot of younger people that must do the same. Back in the depression It was a normal thing for many family members to do the same. It is a depression. Food cards have replaced the food lines there used to be back then, otherwise we would have them. Never give up. Use what knowledge you have to inform others.
What is it that you have a degree in?
Also, to some degree I feel like that sometimes to and I am well beyond your age. It's hard sometimes...I feel your pain. Try to enjoy some of your life with a hobby whenever possible to take your mind off reality while keeping up with what is going on. If you don't have a little fun you will drive yourself crazy!

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Compare the rate of growth between gold/silver and your loan.

You might want to make minimum payments on the loan and buy more gold/silver.

If the dollar does collapse, your loan will be easier to pay off with your gold/silver.

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Yup. Everything has already proven itself

Yup. Everything has already proven itself to be easier to pay with gold/silver. Including the DJI, over the last ten years.



"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

If/when TSHTF

will you be a survival asset? Making sure the answer is yes is the most important thing you can be doing right now. If you are not in shape, get in shape. Find other local preppers. Make survival connections. Learn how to do things that will be needed when the grid goes down. If you are diligent in your preparations you will impress others with your focus and sincerity and will likely find opportunities open up for you in another field of employment.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.


Knowing reality is not easy. Try to teach people what you know, so you get to expand your effect on the world.

Yeah, it's depressing, knowing the big story, but hey - life continues on.

Best of wishes to you.


don't give up on life

make the most of it there is plenty of people worse off then me ot you some are even living outside with no home or bed be thankful that you have a home some food and a bed and heat.

Albert Camus — 'The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.'

yeah I agree. It shouldn't

yeah I agree. It shouldn't have to be like that for anyone.

Buck up, Ryno!

Youve been around here a long time! Count your blessings that you are "enlightened" to the truth. Be glad you've been in the company of "Paulites" for years who have had their apathy cured! You have something most of the sheeple dont have...the truth, thanks to Ron Paul.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

You may be suffering from post-election blues..

I mean, this season, many of us got out there and worked, hard, o get Ron paul known and our POTUS. Since he was prevented from getting the nomination, and we were prevented from making the changes we know this country needs, you may be feeling let-down. I'd suggest you get out of the house, and more than just for work, daily. Meet people. Talk with people. Find a coffee-shop and/or a park where others congregate (of all ages.)
Sure, invest in gold or other precious metals, if you can afford to do so. If your parents are allowing you to live at home, see about paying them some rent. It doesn't need to be a lot, but you may feel better if and when you are contributing to the household.

Believe me, you are not alone. My son's going to come back home, too. He may not stay long, but he has had it with his (also in public-service) job and just can't stand it any longer.
Make plans to do something positive. But, first of all, make some (in real-life) friends, and plan to see them, daily.

We had SOME proof, but RNC does not care about Rules n Laws- they just break and then change 'em to suit whomever (not PAUL).

I just read for the second

I just read for the second time whistleblower publication December 2011.Finding True Happiness IN AN INSANE WORLD.A monthly publication of WND.COM Nearly 165 million Europeans-38% of the population suffer from mental illness and neurological disorders ranging from depression to insomnia,to dementia according to the latest major new study.10% of American men and women are taking drugs just to combat depression. This report came out in 2005.U.S. Centers for Disease and Control reported in 2012 that anti-depressant prescription drugs was the number one drug used by age groups from 18 to 44.

Bob Marshall


I won't go into my whole story but I will talk about the issue of poverty and companionship. I got heavily involved in not only liberty politics and the republican party but I also started getting involved with a local group of people who help the poor. They do things like provide temp housing, night patrols to keep houseless persons from freezing in the winter, overflow programs for full shelters and other activities that have no government involvement and are based on the philosophy of solidarity to help each other. Through working with this group I have met people who are really at the lowest end of our caste system. The last event they had was a quilt auction in rememberance of people they knew who had died in the streets. The funds were used for the night patrols and fixing the bus used to transport free meals and shelter overflows.

One of the leaders of this group is a wonderful girl who I am now dating. I literally thought I was going to be single forever due to being poor. But this girl is just amazing. She doesn't care about material things. She cares about people, so much so that she works more not getting paid than she does at her regular paid job. I think that just getting out there and helping others really helps yourself as well.

Also, do not let the lack of money be the reason why you do not go out and adventure life. I was at a point where I had no money at all for anything other than basic needs. I would go out and just walk around the town, I would join meet ups, get involved with local groups, check newspapers or the internet for free festivals or events. Make it a point to get out there and try new things. You never know what positive things can happen and you may very well be pleasantly surprised.

60% of crap we worry about never happens.

30% of crap we worry about there is stuff we can do to change it.

the last 10% there is nothing you can do ... so why worry at all.

Next ... depending where you live as a tree guy I have learned that $ grows on tree's. Youtube stump grinding follow someone around on a Saturday ...

Make flyers that say I will be doing stump grinding in your area on [6 weeks out] and I will do the stump in your yard for $150 or such ... then rent a machine on Saturday grind from sunrise to sunset next day do the clean ups and you should drop 1k plus in your pocket.

As long as there are rich people and the collapse has not happened there is $ that can be made.

Don't give up. I taught myself how to do tree's and such.

you can do it.

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In the end, it's never what you worry about that gets you

~ Chuck Palahniuk

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Point. A quote VERY often


A quote VERY often true, I'd say.


what fraction of the American people (and others) worries about the actual nature of the "money" they have on their accounts?


"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Do it?

Yes, you can do it, until some jack a$$ decides that you need a license, to do it!

If Nothing Else

there are lots of self sufficiency communities forming all over the country that want young people to come and join and learn how to live off the land. They are teaching survival skills, how to grow organically and how to exist without all the crap that the public schools and society teach you that you must have and do to be "successful". If I were your age again I would be hotfooting it to one of those places. There are several in Texas, about 4 forming in Arkansas and others all over the place. Check them out.


What is your degree in?

What is your degree in?


You are single, have no kids

You are single, have no kids and really no obligations and you make minimum wage. Do research on Canadian oil jobs or North Dakota oil jobs...people with no skills and no degree can go up there and make $100,000. It's not easy work to what I've read, but it's a lot more than what you can make somewhere else.

Canadian Oil Jobs

I can second that, I live in Fort McMurray, Alberta - the heart of the Canadian oil fields. The norm in this city is young guys from all around the world, most with very little education, making lots of money. There are jobs everywhere, it is like no other economy in the country (Canada or US I imagine). If you want to make some money quickly, Fort McMoney is your best option.

Check out www.indeed.ca to look for job postings. It's cold here (-43 Celsius last night with wind chill!) but the opportunity is unparalleled.

Deprogramming progressives, one conversation at a time.

You should also note that

You should also note that personal risk and hardship are part of that choice as well. Greater risk = greater reward.

Make a list of all your blessings.

Life is hard. Very hard, but you have all of your arms and legs, fingers and toes. You have your eyesight and hearing. You can taste orange juice and green beans and ham. You can run and jump. You know to have a job and show up faithfully every shift. You can read and write. You can check books out of your library. You are not in jail. You have family. You have a comfortable place to live. You have a bed and a pillow. You have clothes to wear. You have electricity and running water and hot water on demand. You have access to the internet. You have food to eat. You can enjoy the beauty that is all round you. You can shine in your own little corner of the world.

Is there anything you can do to earn money on the side? Can you tutor in any subject? Can you mow lawns? Can you learn how do valuable new things that will help you down the road? Can you come alongside of someone who can teach you how to do what he does?

Try to resist looking sideways at what a lot of other people have or appear to have, and concentrate on taking your very own accomplishments one step, one moment and day at a time. At the end of each day, think of what you have accomplished and how you are a tiny bit better off than you were the day before. Try to pack in as much as possible into each day so that you can have a larger measure of satisfaction than otherwise, as you lay you head on your pillow at night. See to it that you will be wiser, more knowledgeable, richer, and have better relationships with those who are important to you a year from now than what you have today.

Always remember that many people who seem to have it all are miserable down inside, and don't see any way out of their situations.

You're right. a lot of stuff

You're right. a lot of stuff I take for granted. I am blessed for what I do have. I just need to find something less stressful.

Run for office, its your duty

Run for office, its your duty from god

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I've been feeling extra stressed lately, too.

I can't sleep well at night anymore. Last night, I started thinking about people I love and filled my heart with love. I was out like a light. Check out this video for a new perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp-P031C4Vg

It's seems like an oxymoron to stay happy while preparing for nuclear war, or whatever is coming. But there is reason to be positive. Knowing about the mass corruption is a step in the right direction. How can we solve the world's problems if we don't understand what the source of the problems is? I believe that world peace is possible now! That is, once we get the cartel out of the way. World peace, what a beautiful thing! This is what we deserve.

Fight Harder

... pray harder, give more, go the extra mile. A lot of us are in the same boat. Accept that this is the game that we have to play at our juncture in history. Think of all the power that we have today with the internet! Look towards the greater sorrows and hardships of others and try to help them bear their burdens in order for yours to seem like nothing, to seem like less. 10% of income to be saved, a financial adviser I know suggests. Give to God at church, become a traditional Catholic, do works of charity. Pray for God's grace and that He makes your life into what He wants it to be. Offer up your sufferings to God. Make use of your talents to the best of your ability. Many of the American Revolution died or were completely broke or had loved ones who died. What kinds of sacrifices are we willing to give? Kennedy - "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". Overcome personal faults and evils with God's grace and be a better beacon of holiness and truth for others.


"The world has never known more oppressive governments or bigger governments than those which profess the cult of liberty." - Donald Sanborn

I think your attitude needs

I think your attitude needs to change. There are many poor people who live to a ripe old age and enjoy life. Freedom and peace are within you. There is more to life than the government or the economy. Much more. You must enjoy and celebrate your life. THEY can never take away our freedom, as it is within US. Go to a movie once a week. Look for some sweet ladies to talk to. Relish in your breath and the way dirt and minerals all came together to be YOU. It is amazing. Look for stuff to be thankful for instead of stuff to hate and you will find it. There is some joy to find, every day, even in the midst of chaos and turbulence. Look for that.

The stress from yesterday has

The stress from yesterday has caused it. I'm normally not like that. I hate stress, it makes me so angry.

The S is not going to HTF.

It has become clear that the proverbial excrement is not going to hit the fan as some believe. Oh yes the economy will fail but the S will not HTF. When we are in complete poverty and eating dirt to survive the S will still not HTF. When they take your guns the S will not HTF.

You may as well get use to your servitude.