Is the SHTF about to happen soon? I feel like I have just given up on life
Submitted by ryno.t1985 on Tue, 01/29/2013 - 17:01I just feel I have no future. Nothing to look forward to. Stressed out to the max. I'm only 27 and feel like I am going to have a stroke before I hit 30 with my service job that only pays minimum wage. (even though I have a college degree). I still live at home with my parents because I can't afford a place of my own. I am able to save as little that I do make on food and gold/silver for the collapse. I am I doing the right thing? I feel that this is all I can do. I don't come from a well of family so I can't go back to school or anything. I do live within my means and have a few student loans and my car(which I need for work). Am I doin the right thing? I am a single guy, so no spouse or kids or anything.
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Thanks, and to everyone who
Thanks, and to everyone who commented. I wish I known all you in person. Myself and a friend of mine at work are the only people I know of that are awake. Everyone else are Obama zombies.
Always darkest before the dawn
Hang in there friend. I've been where you are now and even far worse. I've been broke, homeless and hopeless. I lived through it even sometime I thought I might not!
Nothing improves the spirit like new found hope. Hope that is based on reality is hard to come by these days for a young guy. Recognize 99% of what you see and hear on TV, radio or movies is designed to make you feel despondent. It is critical you turn it off! After a few weeks of ignoring the MSM, things will automatically improve even if nothing else changed in your life. It is all designed to kill your hope! Be thankful you are not living in Gaza where the young guys in your situation are programmed to martyr themselves. The same hope-killing principles are at work in this country, its just that we do not yet have a Isreali boogeyman next door to focus anger.
As far as jobs, girls and money, they are all over-rated. Job hunting is a drag no matter who you are but I can tell you from experience an educational pedigree means jack squat in most of the real world. I dropped out of college (broke!) and bounced around from career to career until I was 30. Moved furniture, swept floors, oil field, cattle ranch, retail, health care, shrimp boat, you name it. Learned a little from each one, some more than others.
The entire time I was bouncing around I recognized they all had things in common. At each place, the people who were the best at what they did all loved what they were doing. I finally bounced into something I loved (IT) and have been doing it now for 20 years.
On girls - I've heard it said "if I am poor then I can't find a girl". Thats pretty rich. And very wrong. Some of the biggest ladies men I've known over the years could barely pay the water bill and owned, at most, 3 decent shirts! And those cats were always smiling. The richest dude I know is on wife #3 (and probably girlfriend #50) and is in and out of the shrinks' office, miserable and can't find happiness. Those are the player types but the same is true for the monogamous guys who's idea of happiness if a good woman to hold, kids to raise and a good bird dog to hang out with on the weekends. Find what you love to do, and in the meantime, while you are looking, maybe you'll bump into a good woman.
Longest comment I've ever posted here but I sense a kinsman in need and wanted to pass along my little story in hope it helps. It will all work out. Get right with the Man upstairs. Read the Bible (KJV). Have faith!
Yeah, now it just seems
Yeah, now it just seems everything you see on TV is fantasy. "News" and everything. It is quit scary when you wake up realized you have been brainwashed your entire life, with school and evereything.
If I was 27 and looking for something new...
I would pack up and head to North Dakota. Find a job site and fill out an app. Pass the drug test and go to work! Entry level I bet you can make 40k easy up there. If you have a knack for it you can job hop and make 60 first year. 3 years from now, making 80.
Of course that assumes you don't die in a horrible rig explosion or a bar fight. Or, after your bank account is flush, fly "home" and go carousing with your old buddies, chase college girls for three days, and end up in jail, spending it all on lawyers. All avoidable! Don't ask me how I know.
Be grateful you see it now
You have a head start. Most people are still in the dark. The important thing is to chart your own course. Don't let the man get you down. He wants to make you a beggar because beggars are easier to please.
After 5 years and all the BS I tired of this shit.
I want to go where I can hear self made soverign people in a discussion of facts that have meaning in our times. Not a bunch of cry babys telling their tells of pity for their situation.
Thanks for the time Michael and Adios Y vaya con Dios.
"Since 1789 the only government on Earth that has the power to crush the American people`s liberties across the board is the government of the United States"
Robert Higgs
Lighten up Francis
... cut some slack amigo.
Read the Uncle Eric Series
Richard Maybury wrote 11 books on how to take advantage of any economy. They are the Uncle Eric series. They are written so that a 12-14 year-old could grasp the concepts. If you read them and understand them you will see how you can prosper and never be poor. With a few questions you'll be able to predict someones economic future. Maybury is an Austrian. And it's awesome....
find something that interests you, and be the best at it.
I started years ago designing websites and setting up a webserver 1997ish, and in my career I've now been a ISP owner, inventor, Systems administrator, network engineer, RF engineer, linux kernel engineer, etc. There isn't much in the area of computing, networking and radios that I haven't been exposed to in the 15-16 years I've been working, and I actually make a pretty damned good living too where my wife stayed home w/ the kids for 10 years. I'd say I enjoy about 50% of my job =) and don't hate going to work. I'm doing star trek stuff these days and I love it.
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Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.
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..I enjoy about 50% of my job =)
I'm betting its the 50% that doesn't invlove training some H1B how to do their job!
Live frugal as part of the new American culture.
Dont live frugal because you expect the end of the world. Live frugal because you want to grow capital and protect the wealth of your family-- your parents will need your help in a few years. Save your money. Saving capital now will allow you to take risks in the future or shield your parents from a lost job. Learn a technical trade that pays more-- one that only requires 1 year of training for a certification, especially in healthcare, repair, or law (just an example: http://www.innerbody.com/careers-in-health/how-to-become-a-m...). It is a regular way of life in Asia and in many poor countries to live at home until 30-35 (with limited dating). If you have a family member who remembers the old country (Europe) or if you have cousins, they will tell you the same story-- in the old days and in new wealth countries like in Asia, young people live at home until they have saved enough money to marry and buy property. We are a poorer country now and we must return to the culture of a poorer country. Shift your values: your savings is your hope. Your family is your foundation. Your skills give you security. If you have time enjoy your politics by disciplining yourself and participating in civil defense and political discourse. When enough Americans reach for these goals there can be a living, breathing America.
Have you considered working construction?
A lot of contractors are paying pretty decent money to reliable individuals. One bricklayer I worked with was paying $26 an hour for laborers, because he was having such a hard time finding people who would reliably show up every day. If you are willing to hustle, I bet you could walk in just about any contracting or landscaping company and double your current wages. Work your ass off and save money while you still have time as don't have other obligations. Also I agree with some of the other posters, gardening is a great way to help yourself, help your family, gain a valuable skill, and have fun at the same time. If you have any construction related questions, let me know.
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito
Construction is a great training ground
I second your recomendation. Its one of the few places left that is still mostly a meritocracy. And most of the skills you pick are transportable into any field. Budget, time, people, design specs, etc. Learn how to succeed at contsruction and pretty much everything else seems easy by comparison.
The cool thing is in construction you can still have an after work parking lot fist fight and not get fired. A few punches, parental lineage defamed, then everyone makes up and goes for a brew. Unless its with the boss of course. If thats the case you likely have another job lined up anyway.
My dream is to introduce parking lot fist fights to Fortune 500 management style. Witnessed two so far but for some reason its not catching on like I hoped.
Never Give Up!
My 20s were spent living paycheck to paycheck. I'd literally have $1.29 left in the ledger after the bills were taken care of. I married at 26 and he was pretty broke too. For fun, we'd rent a video...watch it in our apartment that looked like someone did an oil change on the living room carpet and the pipes were cracking through the shower BUT we were happy. We knew only we could make us happy so if Subway once a month was a 'date' then so be it. 15 years of marriage and 2 kids later, we're still happy and making a great living. Find what gives you happiness. Don't worry about things or people you can't control. Look outside your town or even state for work commensurate with your degree. Step outside that comfort zone if that's what it takes. We've travelled or moved often for work (even overseas!) and it's always been an adventure we didn't regret. Just my 2 cents. The best of luck to you!
Please
I highly suggest you stay off websites like this, if that's how you're feeling. There is far too much unwarranted pessimism and negativity. It's enough to depress anyone. Sure there is some truth behind much of it, and I agree with a lot of the fundamental principles, but you'd be better off avoiding news all together.
you are young and have a lot to look forward to. You are far better off than most people on this planet, and it sounds like you're intelligent, and responsible.
Despite what some people say, no one knows how things will pan out. There are far too many variables. There is no sense in worrying about it. It's good to be prepared for hard economic times, and it would be in your best interest to educate yourself in a variety of ways that interest you. learn practical things that you enjoy such as programming, web design, auto repair, construction. Learn skills online for free. Save some money when you can. But also enjoy life. you don't want to look back when you are older with regret that you didn't do more when you were younger. You don't need a lot of money. Build strong friendships. Spend time with family. Help others. Find out what makes you happy and healthy.
just don't let the unknown get you down. Live in the moment, while being aware and prepared for the possibility that the economy could become worse. Worrying won't help you.
I highly recommend adding exercise into your routine. And I have also found mindfulness meditation to be very beneficial for someone like you. If you want some resources for that, I can try to find some for you.
Anyhow, I wish you the best.
Try Reason.com/Reason.tv
If you want a good combo of libertarianism and optimism, try reading articles from reason.com. They are funny, entertaining, and intellegent. They're my favorite source for news with a liberty twist.
Unwarranted pessism and
Unwarranted pessism and negativity?
Apparently you understand nothing about anthropology if your best advice is to 'live in the moment'. Animals do that. Primates plan.
I think
i think you misunderstand me. I don't mean we should not think about the future at all, or fail to plan our lives at all. The problem is that people today spend the majority of the time outside their own body planning and worrying about the future. There has been a great deal of research about this recently shedding light on the negative health repercussions. It's important to take time to experience what is real rather than purely projections. I recommend looking into mindfulness meditation and similar therapies. And I don't mean this in any sort of eastern religion sort of way, although there is plenty of it in that. This is a scientifically established approach to living a more fulfilling, peaceful, happy, and healthy life.
Really good advice.
Think I will take you up on some of those ideas.
Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."
You can't wait for a job to
You can't wait for a job to pop into your lap. You have to go out there and apply apply apply. Knock on doors of places you'd like to work. There is no excuse to work for minimum wage unless you haven't graduated from high school yet. Your future is what you make of it. Quit hanging around on the DP and listening to the apocalyptic SHTFanners. S is NOT going to HTF anytime soon. Quit wasting money that you barely have on the collapse.
Living within your means is great though! And, living at home is not that big of a deal. I saved up 100k while living with my parents and am about to move out. I'm 31. I think you are doing the right thing here - UNLESS there are no job opportunities in your area.
If you want to make money, move to an oilfield area and get any job you can land. You've got to go after it though.
Quit stressing out. Life is good. Some people prosper no matter what the political and economic climate. Be one of them.
“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”
I have, but you get to a
I have, but you get to a point where you can't go on forever with same outcome. There is simply nothing available in this crap state of Florida that only provides hospitality jobs that only pay minimum wage.
Get out of Florida. Florida
Get out of Florida. Florida sucks anyway. What job do you want that you are qualified for?
“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”
Teaching, but teachers don't
Teaching, but teachers don't get paid shit. I agree with you on Florida. I hate this place. If I had the means and connections, I would leave as soon as possible.
Teachers don't get paid
Teachers don't get paid shit?
Your minimum wage job pays what? 14k - 15k per year?
Average teacher wages are around 50k.
Just starting out, you can accept 40k or so. You nearly JUST TRIPLED your income! Even 30k would be acceptable for a couple years until you have some experience and can find a job for 50k. Plus, you work 8am - 4pm every day and get the equivalent of like 4 months per year off. I would kill for 4 months off per year! If you translate 40k over 8 months to wages for a full year, you would be making 60k to start! That is GOOD money to start.
You don't need means or connections. Just apply everywhere you'd like to live. Take any teaching job you can get. Even teaching English in foreign countries like the other guy suggested would be awesome! You have an awesome experience, gain experience, earn some money, and be able to sag a job much easier when you return...
“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”
i feel bad that i even
i feel bad that i even commented now. florida, typical. he equates a minimum wage job with a non minimum wage job. bloody hell. or maybe i missed something. did i miss something? if i didn't, then geez, Flordia, just typical. you can't beat florida.
lawrence
Yeah all the jobs here suck
Yeah all the jobs here suck and pay crap.
Nathan Explosion for
Nathan Explosion for Governor.
lawrence
You do understand ....
That starting out at a young age with no experience you are not going to be rich right away, right? Teach for a while, get some seniority... maybe become a principle someday. Or teach for a while go back to school and get a masters or phd and teach at a university level.
Your 27. I'm 27. Neither of us will be rich for the time being.
Also, consider teaching English abroad. I am leaving for China in a few months to teach English. They are paying for my roundtrip flight, my apartment and bills that go along with the apartment, 2 meals a day m-f at the school. Beyond that I'll get an actual paycheck and a sign off bonus for finishing one school year. Basically if I live frugally (I'll probably travel a bit while I'm over there though) I am going to come home with $20,000 cash in my pocket. Think outside the box.
jrd is still here... kinda in a weird sort of way. She also just might be the happiest girl in the world because she got exactly what she wanted which was a perfect summer wandering playlist.
If you are a teacher
If you are a teacher, teach, especially if you are in an area where it is hostile to Liberty. You can subtly plant the seeds of Liberty in all of your students, no matter their age. It takes an entire generation. You can help make that difference.
When I was at Philly Phreedom, they made lemonade out of lemons.
"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul
Have you seen this post? ->
Have you seen this post? -> "Another Family Business Destroyed: Morningland Dairy Raw Milk Cheese Raided 1/25/13"
The thing to take from it is this farmer may have lost his business but, he has something worth far more than stacks of silver and gold. Do you see how the friends, family, and community supported him? This man has what it takes to survive anything.
I would say he earned that from his good nature... Not many would give product away to those who couldn't pay. Not many could be so kind to those destroying their business.
Trust me in the end it isn't about how tall the silver round stack is or how much wheat you have in 5 gallon buckets. That is all stuff that can be taken from you. No one can take away what that business owners has.